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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 12:07 PM Sep 2019

Nicely Done -GA Confederate monument identified as symbol of racism & white supremacy

Confederate monument in Decatur Square that identifies it as a symbol of racism and white supremacy.
https://www.ajc.com/news/local-govt--politics/dekalb-confederate-monument-receive-contextualizing-marker/VOFAQvN0ig5jruqZRtS6yI/#

Georgia makes it a crime to move or eliminate monuments to the fight for slavery

So my hometown, left with no other option, put up this sign for context.



“In 1908, this monument was erected at the DeKalb County Courthouse to glorify the ‘lost cause’ of the Confederacy and the Confederate soldiers who fought for it. It was privately funded by the A. Evans Camp of Confederate Veterans and the Agnes Lee Chapter of the United Daughters of the Confederacy. Located in a prominent public space, its presence bolstered white supremacy and faulty history, suggesting that the cause for the Civil War rested on southern Honor and States Rights rhetoric—instead of its real catalyst—American slavery. This monument and similar ones also were created to intimidate African Americans and limit their full participation in social and political life of their communities. It fostered a culture of segregation by implying that public spaces and public memory belonged to Whites. Since State law prohibited local governments from removing Confederate statues, DeKalb County contextualized this monument in 2019. DeKalb County officials and citizens believe that public history can be of service when it challenges us to broaden our sense of boundaries and includes community discussions of the victories and shortcomings of our shared histories.”




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Nicely Done -GA Confederate monument identified as symbol of racism & white supremacy (Original Post) kpete Sep 2019 OP
Indeed, time to label them for what they are... Thomas Hurt Sep 2019 #1
Don't forget treason. Caliman73 Sep 2019 #3
Yep. "Fought AGAINST the United States of America" stopdiggin Sep 2019 #8
A good workaround, at least... Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author NightWatcher Sep 2019 #4
DeKalb county greymattermom Sep 2019 #5
My town might need one of those! struggle4progress Sep 2019 #6
"lies across america" was a follow up book to "lies my teacher told me" mopinko Sep 2019 #7
Do these municipalities need extra money for their budgets? gratuitous Sep 2019 #9
Let it stay if they put up one safeinOhio Sep 2019 #10
And/or an enslave with a mule tirebiter Sep 2019 #11

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
1. Indeed, time to label them for what they are...
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 12:13 PM
Sep 2019

political monuments to conservative/reactionary ideology.

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
3. Don't forget treason.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 12:25 PM
Sep 2019

Slavery was definitely what prompted the confederacy to try to secede from the Union, but they took up arms against the US. If they were recognized as a separate nation, then they are enemy combatants, just like the Germans in WW1 and WW2. If they were not a separate nation, then they were traitors. Either one of those classifications also needs to be noted on those statues.

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struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
6. My town might need one of those!
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 12:39 PM
Sep 2019

State law has prevented us from removing our own Confederate statue from 1924, but two days after the murder of Heather Heyer in Charlottesville, the statue fell down and crumpled like a cheap piece of junk (as shown in the linked photo, which may not post here).

https://www.heraldsun.com/news/local/counties/durham-county/pkrpam/picture193722849/alternates/FREE_1140/display-statue



... The secession of the Lower South in 1860-61 placed North Carolina in a precarious situation; despite strong Unionist sentiment, the state felt close ties to other slaveholding states. Anticipating the need for defense in the spring of 1861, the General Assembly strengthened the militia law to include all white males between the ages of 18 and 45, except members of the clergy ... Volunteers ... fought the first battles of the Civil War. By the spring of 1862 ... the Confederate Congress enacted the first national draft law in American history; the North did not implement a full-scale draft until 1863. The sweeping legislation extended the service of all volunteers for three more years and enrolled all white males between 18 and 35 into the Confederate army ... North Carolina .. supplied the Confederacy with the highest number of troops and lost the largest number to battlefield death and disease; it also led the new nation with nearly 25,000 deserters, feeding the political war in Unionist counties ... https://www.ncpedia.org/conscription

mopinko

(70,091 posts)
7. "lies across america" was a follow up book to "lies my teacher told me"
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 12:41 PM
Sep 2019

all about these markers. it would be a tremendous history lesson for this whole darn country to put up a correction like this next to almost all of them.

if by chance we find one that is true, we can call it out for that.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. Do these municipalities need extra money for their budgets?
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 12:50 PM
Sep 2019

Could they sell these public monuments to the highest bidder to shore up the local treasury? Then, as privately owned monuments, the owner could do with them as he or she or they pleased. I mean, if the U.S. government can sell off designated wilderness and park lands for a song to developers, it seems that local governments should be able to do the same.

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