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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLooks like almost the whole fucking administration is implicated in this Ukraine shit.
Trump, Pence, Barr, Sec. of Defense, ...
https://www.justsecurity.org/66101/trump-and-giulianis-quest-for-fake-ukraine-dirt-on-biden-an-explainer/
Wounded Bear
(58,653 posts)Saint PeLSU
(24 posts)Everything about Republikkkans and con-servatives is fake. You would have to believe they care about the country, the constitution, it's citizens, life, the law, debt and deficits. We simply know in every area they are hypocrites. They only pretend to care when democrats are in office. Unfortunately, as long as I've been following politics it's always worked for them. They've always been able to make dems feckless. People love fighters even if they're dirty.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)Ohiogal
(31,996 posts)Were under mob rule. They have to pledge loyalty to The Con.
lindysalsagal
(20,682 posts)dalton99a
(81,485 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,682 posts)This is the last, gasping breath of the ugly, ancient white supremacy, and they'll ruin the world if they lose their privileges.
czarjak
(11,274 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)He can get someone else to take the blame and get a new running mate.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)But I do keep hoping Trump'll take Pence down with him, and both being legally tangled up in wrongdoing and dragged in out of malice, maybe both, seem possibilities.
I'm thinking, though, that Pence's involvement suggests there's virtually no chance Trump was attempting to extort Ukraine into corruption without babbling it to Pence. At the very least...!
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)Theyve taken over the local news. Mine spins everything Trumps way. They reported this as Trump asking Ukraine to investigate the corruption of Joe Biden who made off with a Billion dollars through fraud.
ffr
(22,669 posts)The broadcasters do what they are told and few in the public have the cognitive thinking skills to see through it.
pandr32
(11,582 posts)Clearly, Trump and the RepubliCons know they have no other way to win unless they cheat, lie, and steal.
We need a modern version of the Fairness Doctrine in place. People listen to/watch various media all day long--providing the perfect means to brainwash them.
ffr
(22,669 posts)Criminals in power.
yonder
(9,664 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,158 posts)we have made months of progress and picked up the pace. There cannot be a clearer incident that epitomizes what has been going on for these 2.7 years. This is textbook, case study material that cannot be explained away. Tectonic shifts are coming.
intrepidity
(7,296 posts)So, after years of U.S. support to strengthen Ukraine as a potential democratic example in the former Soviet Union, that country finally has a president and a majority of members in Parliament who seem serious about tackling corruption. Is the U.S. president really sending a signal now that he will turn his back on Ukraine because its new leaders refuse an American invitation to corruption?