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question everything

(47,460 posts)
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 10:20 PM Sep 2019

With a laser precision

I have been meaning to ask on these pages what specific crime should Trump be accused. No, did not think that the Mueller report was enough. For many, it ended up in indecision.

I would like to go after him for using the country as a personal ATM. Or the glaring nepotism and so on.

But, as a reporter on Nicole Wallace commented: choosing a specific issue, with a laser precision, like the using a foreign government to help in the election would be the way to go. And it is.

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With a laser precision (Original Post) question everything Sep 2019 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #1
Agree. Mueller report was not going to take trump down, Mueller wimped out on Hoyt Sep 2019 #2
Is being stupid in a no stupid zone safeinOhio Sep 2019 #3
If you look at the charges that passed against Nixon, you can probably spot a few. :D NCLefty Sep 2019 #4
Thanks, interesting question everything Sep 2019 #5

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Agree. Mueller report was not going to take trump down, Mueller wimped out on
Tue Sep 24, 2019, 10:35 PM
Sep 2019

cooperation/collusion. Although it should have been, Obstruction just wasn’t enough in public opinion.

There were better charges from incompetence, emoluments, racism, lying, nepotism, etc.

But the Ukraine shakedown is easy to understand. Democrats can pile on the other stuff. And I think GOPers have been looking for a way to get rid of trump to keep him from bringing them all down.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
4. If you look at the charges that passed against Nixon, you can probably spot a few. :D
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 01:33 AM
Sep 2019
The Judiciary Committee, with seven Republicans joining the Democratic majority, passed three of the five proposed articles of impeachment. Only one Republican serving on the Committee, Lawrence Hogan, voted for all three of the successful articles.

- Article I (obstruction of justice) alleged in part:

On June 17, 1972, and prior thereto, agents of the Committee for the Re-election of the President committed unlawful entry of the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee in Washington, District of Columbia, for the purpose of securing political intelligence.

Subsequent thereto, Richard M. Nixon, using the powers of his high office, engaged personally and through his close subordinates and agents, in a course of conduct or plan designed to delay, impede, and obstruct the investigation of such illegal entry; to cover up, conceal and protect those responsible; and to conceal the existence and scope of other unlawful covert activities.

- Article II (abuse of power) alleged in part that Nixon:

repeatedly engaged in conduct violating the constitutional rights of citizens, impairing the due and proper administration of justice and the conduct of lawful inquiries, or contravening the laws governing agencies of the executive branch and the purposes of these agencies.

- Article III (defiance of subpoenas) alleged in part that Nixon:

failed without lawful cause or excuse to produce papers and things as directed by duly authorized subpoenas issued by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives on April 11, 1974, May 15, 1974, May 30, 1974, and June 24, 1974, and willfully disobeyed such subpoenas.

- The Committee voted 12–26 against including the administration's falsification of records concerning the secret bombing of Cambodia in the articles of impeachment leveled against President Nixon.

- Another article, regarding Nixon's personal finances and failure to pay taxes, was also not passed.

The three articles of impeachment that the Judiciary Committee did vote to the floor of the House represented the furthest an impeachment proceeding against a president had progressed in over a century.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_process_against_Richard_Nixon

question everything

(47,460 posts)
5. Thanks, interesting
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 01:22 PM
Sep 2019

Of course, in those days there were some decent Republicans who could see the danger that these activities provided.

And, Trump did not have to send plumbers to break into the DNC headquarters; he had Russia. And brazenly asked it to intervene. But this did not do anything to the Republicans in Congress and his base. They want him to "drain the swamp" (while replacing it with his won) and members of Congress, and all of those who were against them during the campaign, just folded.

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