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Have A Subscription to the New York Times? Strongly Consider Cancelling It NOW..... (Original Post) LovingA2andMI Sep 2019 OP
Right...we don't want the Trump Administration investigated or anything... brooklynite Sep 2019 #1
Doxxing whistleblowers and witnesses isn't investigative journalism BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #12
A "CIA agent" isn't doxing... brooklynite Sep 2019 #37
right... the NYT is the only paper to do it. if the times folded tomorrow 90% of Americans Lib 4 Life Sep 2019 #28
Disagree with the decision, but will definitely not be cancelling my subscription. RelativelyJones Sep 2019 #2
Just did The Blue Flower Sep 2019 #3
From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Sep 2019 #4
Bad move. One of the best investigative journalism outlets out there. NT TidalWave46 Sep 2019 #5
Yes it's been great BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #10
They break some huge stories and do some very good reporting. TidalWave46 Sep 2019 #15
If that is so then Dean Baquet should be fired zooks Sep 2019 #29
I agree with that to an extent. TidalWave46 Sep 2019 #34
Nope stopdiggin Sep 2019 #6
Outing a Whistleblower... LovingA2andMI Sep 2019 #17
Somebody's gonna do it customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #35
Yeah, reporting like this is just awful: maxsolomon Sep 2019 #7
Like hounds after a fox Marthe48 Sep 2019 #8
I am told the NYT cancellation wait time on the phone is up to 130 minutes Gothmog Sep 2019 #9
I don't subscribe LeftInTX Sep 2019 #11
I'm sick of these threads. harumph Sep 2019 #13
One can ALWAYS skip "these threads" LovingA2andMI Sep 2019 #16
Or post what we think about it!!!! nt USALiberal Sep 2019 #20
True... LovingA2andMI Sep 2019 #22
You want the NYT to never offend you or any dem.....LOL.....Good luck! nt USALiberal Sep 2019 #23
Yeah....#CancelNYT is trending #1 on Twitter... LovingA2andMI Sep 2019 #27
False equivalency. Dean Baquet should either resign or be fired zooks Sep 2019 #32
Yeah BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #21
as noted upthread, the 1619 project was stunning journalism maxsolomon Sep 2019 #25
So is the travel section. BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #26
Science times, Arts section maxsolomon Sep 2019 #30
They Did RobinA Sep 2019 #42
I'll take the WaPo any day over the NYT Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #38
Thanks I'll make sure to renew my subscription! nt UniteFightBack Sep 2019 #14
"Hooray for doxxing!1!" BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #18
Did a Seagull Crap on Your Car? Time to trade it in... MineralMan Sep 2019 #19
No BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #24
That decision was, I'm sure, taken very deliberately. MineralMan Sep 2019 #43
I'm thankful for the NY Times and also the Washington Post - Great Newspapers! walkingman Sep 2019 #31
Funny you should mention it. I just cancelled them a couple of hours ago. flibbitygiblets Sep 2019 #33
Thanks. But no thanks. onenote Sep 2019 #36
no, sorry, I will not be cancelling my subscription, it is 2 USD a month well spent nt Celerity Sep 2019 #39
#CanelNYT Gothmog Sep 2019 #40
Kick dalton99a Sep 2019 #41
NYT is making it hard to cancel Gothmog Sep 2019 #44

BannonsLiver

(16,383 posts)
12. Doxxing whistleblowers and witnesses isn't investigative journalism
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:25 PM
Sep 2019

It’s a reckless act aimed at getting clickety clicks and revenue. It’s irresponsible. But you knew that already.

brooklynite

(94,535 posts)
37. A "CIA agent" isn't doxing...
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:41 PM
Sep 2019

If the Time could figure this out, so could the White House. He’s protected by the Whistlblower Law and he’s not at risk of being “rubbed out”.

 

Lib 4 Life

(97 posts)
28. right... the NYT is the only paper to do it. if the times folded tomorrow 90% of Americans
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:02 PM
Sep 2019

Wouldn't even notice. and the fine journalists they do employ would still find work. fuck their owners and editors. cancel your subscription

BannonsLiver

(16,383 posts)
10. Yes it's been great
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:15 PM
Sep 2019

At carrying water for the GOP as was the case in the lead up to Iraq. And how can we forget their breathless “but her emails!1!” coverage in the fall of 2016?

I’m reminded of the latter each and every day. It’s a for profit news operation, not the fucking Avengers.

 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
15. They break some huge stories and do some very good reporting.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:35 PM
Sep 2019

Along with more own errors than they should have.

My post that you replied to is completely accurate. As is yours. But the post I was replying to is, for the most part, carting your context.

A blending of my post and yours gets to the bigger picture.

 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
34. I agree with that to an extent.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:10 PM
Sep 2019

They should fire him. I don’t disagree with that. Still stand by my post and I’m not confident they were the only outlet looking.

stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
6. Nope
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 04:09 PM
Sep 2019

this is solid reporting. If you didn't think this was going to come up ...

We already knew the whistleblower was part of intelligence .. previously reported .. and the rest is easily pieced together by examining the complaint .. which has been publicly released! This is plain old fashioned journalism. Some individuals here at DU have a real "thing" with the NYT.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
17. Outing a Whistleblower...
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:41 PM
Sep 2019

Is downright awful, especially for Journalists who equally except their sources be protected. The Whistleblower is a source.

Marthe48

(16,950 posts)
8. Like hounds after a fox
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 04:23 PM
Sep 2019

The whistle-blower is going to be the most sought after person in the world. Just a couple of weeks ago, the media tracked down a spy who was living in Va. So far, the spy is still alive. I hope. The identity of the whistle blower is going to be revealed sooner or later. By the time of the revelation, maybe the whistle blower will be quite safe in a secure location.

ALso, I hope that everyone who has crossed thug traitor trump has secure protection, people who can't be bought off. Unless the trail of dead russians lead to trump's door, he hasn't resorted to hits yet. Not to say he won't, because no one is willing to stop his ridiculous tantrums and as this latest crime is exposed to light, who knows what he'll do. He's running out of people to blame, running out of fall guys to throw in front of the train.

People in CIA/FBI, and other security organizations who are loyal to the U.S.A. would I'm sure protect the whistle-blower to the best of their ability. If the henchmen surrounding trump are anything to go by, I should think the career security people are much better at what they do than trump's bottom-of-the-barrel hires.

LeftInTX

(25,311 posts)
11. I don't subscribe
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:19 PM
Sep 2019

Recently they've had some good stories (International mostly)

I was tempted to subscribe just to read them.

I subscribe to the Washington Post

harumph

(1,900 posts)
13. I'm sick of these threads.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:28 PM
Sep 2019

If you're looking for a news source that's perfect all the time - just drop out because there's no such beast. The NYT does some
admirable reporting like the recent 1619 project (the project that gave Mitch the vapors). I'm sorry - but I have to question the motivation of internet personalities that think canceling their subscription is going to solve shit. I support the NYTimes and have a
goddamn paper copy thrown on my drive every . fucking . day. It's not perfect - but it's still the best horse in the glue factory.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
22. True...
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:48 PM
Sep 2019

And the thread lives on and People will continue to post about Outing a Whistleblower in a so-called Journalistic New Resource that would expect and demand a source identity be protected.

Yet, some will defend....whatever....

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
27. Yeah....#CancelNYT is trending #1 on Twitter...
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:58 PM
Sep 2019

Guess they offended a lot of Dems and plenty of others. That will be an interesting NYT Stock Value Hit Tomorrow. Guess they should not have outed a Federal Whistleblower.

With that, have a lovely evening....

zooks

(308 posts)
32. False equivalency. Dean Baquet should either resign or be fired
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:05 PM
Sep 2019

especially as the Times own lawyers advised him not to do this

BannonsLiver

(16,383 posts)
21. Yeah
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:45 PM
Sep 2019

I mean I’m sure they didn’t mean to have 36 months of breathless, wall to wall coverage of “but her emails!1” right up until Election Day.

And I’m sure carrying water for W in the lead up to Iraq was a simple oversight.

Tell me, what is it exactly that they do right?

maxsolomon

(33,336 posts)
25. as noted upthread, the 1619 project was stunning journalism
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:56 PM
Sep 2019

it left my understanding of American history profoundly altered.

also the crossword is good.

maxsolomon

(33,336 posts)
30. Science times, Arts section
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:03 PM
Sep 2019

About 99.9% of the time, it's fantastic.

And don't forget: Trump HATES THEM.

RobinA

(9,891 posts)
42. They Did
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 10:20 PM
Sep 2019

an excellent investigation of Daddy Trump and his financial dealings leading into the current Trump family dealing. Verrry interesting and informative. It didn’t get a lot of comment, probably because it was longer than a tweet, but it was nevertheless a very good read.

BannonsLiver

(16,383 posts)
24. No
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:52 PM
Sep 2019

But when purveyors of products I use with some frequency stop producing those products at the same level of quality I often find a new purveyor for that product. Similarly if said purveyor does something outrageous I reserve the right to terminate my business relationship with them.

Their decision to doxx the whistleblower was irresponsible. Some of us object to that, and are exercising our power to choose as consumers. It’s the American way, after all.

MineralMan

(146,290 posts)
43. That decision was, I'm sure, taken very deliberately.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 09:15 AM
Sep 2019

I don't believe they announce the whistleblower's name. I don't know if they know the name.

Shortly, that person will appear before a couple of congressional committees. Soon, his name will be known. The fact that he was a CIA employee once assigned to the White House is important information. I'm sure he or she is a very senior analyst. That is also important information.

You can, of course, do as you wish and cancel your subscription. More effective is your open public protestation of the NYT's policy, though.

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