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mcar

(42,307 posts)
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:14 PM Sep 2019

Pierce: The Director of National Intelligence Was Between the Jaws of a Nutcracker

The Director of National Intelligence Was Between the Jaws of a Nutcracker
Joseph Maguire never had a chance, and the Trump administration* made sure of it. You buy a ticket to Bedlam, you get the whole tour.

BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
SEP 26, 2019

WASHINGTON — On Thursday, in a congressional hearing room, we saw a man caught in a nutcracker. It is true that he volunteered to walk into the nutcracker after two other people left it. It is also true that he twisted and turned, and fudged fantabulously (as Rep. Jim Hines put it) trying to survive between the jaws of the nutcracker. But, at the end of it, the nutcracker broke him as it has broken so many other people who decided to bathe in this poisoned spring of a presidency*. Joseph Maguire, former Navy SEAL, career Navy man from a family full of them, and now the Director of National Intelligence, found his previous life and career in tiny chunks all around his feet....

Maguire never had a chance. Shortly before the hearing, the committee released both the official complaint filed by the mysterious whistleblower regarding the administration*'s attempt to blackjack the embattled government of Ukraine into helping ratfck the president* a second term. These two documents so fundamentally demolished the threadbare remnants of the administration*'s shabby alibis as to be self-evident. Maguire's choices were either to ignore the obvious criminality that he knows about as well as anyone in government outside of the administration*, or to play dumb and couch his responses in various forms of privilege, not all of which actually exist. To nobody's surprise, Maguire did both. He said he trusted in the good faith of both the whistleblower and the Intelligence Community's inspector general, Michael Atkinson. He also refused even to say whether or not he had ever spoken to the president* on this matter, citing executive privilege—which, one supposes, is a backdoor way of saying that he had....

The Republicans on the committee didn't quite know what to do with Maguire, either. They wavered between praising him for his service, taking potshots at committee chairman Adam Schiff, and weaving their Sean Hannity Starter Kit conspiracies throughout the official record. (Congressman Devin Nunes, the former White House lawn ornament now d/b/a the ranking minority member of the committee, accused Democrats of seeking out nude pictures of the president*, which was a new one on a lot of people, most of whom felt their stomachs turn at the very concept.) Eventually, the Republicans simply gave up questioning and left the room entirely, although Nunes came back at the end to belch some talking points because what the hell else does he have to do these days...besides suing internet cows, of course....

"As [Maguire] said, this process was unusual," said Rep. Joaquin Castro, Democrat of Texas. "It's different from anything that's happened in the past. It was extraordinary that the inspector general's determination of 'Urgent Request' was overruled. If you look at the complaint, it says that a lot of people in the White House actually knew about the president's abuse of power, and there were people who tried to cover it up by putting this phone conversation into a different system, so that's very unusual. We also need to know if there were other things that were covered up besides this phone conversation. What about conversations with other foreign leaders, like Vladimir Putin?"
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Pierce: The Director of National Intelligence Was Between the Jaws of a Nutcracker (Original Post) mcar Sep 2019 OP
They are not ignorant of the facts. saidsimplesimon Sep 2019 #1
This has Putin's fingerprints all over it. mcar Sep 2019 #2
My bet he did threaten to resign. gordianot Sep 2019 #3
He sure came along at a bad time mcar Sep 2019 #4
Poor fool. A big part of his dilemma is that he is an "Acting" director & cannot do his job ... Hekate Sep 2019 #5
Well said mcar Sep 2019 #6
loyalty to the chief is too ingrained Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #7
I kind of feel for the guy. Kind of. GulfCoast66 Sep 2019 #8

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
1. They are not ignorant of the facts.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:21 PM
Sep 2019

It's a coup, planned by some wiser than "The dotard". IT is easy to manipulate, just ask Vlad.

Elections* do indeed have consequences... what an understatement that's been this time.

Hekate

(90,669 posts)
5. Poor fool. A big part of his dilemma is that he is an "Acting" director & cannot do his job ...
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:19 PM
Sep 2019

...without reference to the Mad King. He was never vetted, he never had a Senate Hearing, and for all I know never got sworn in. God knows what he's got for a professional staff with institutional memory.

What I saw was a man who couldn't get a grasp on the questions he was being asked, and I finally realized it's because he does not -- cannot -- inhabit the job as it was meant to be.

Which, when you think about it, is exactly the way Trump wants it for all his Cabinet and all his political appointees.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
6. Well said
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:39 PM
Sep 2019

I only heard the testimony on NPR (was traveling today), but he didn't seem too confident about what he was saying.

His responses to the questions on why he went to the alleged criminals to ask what to do about the complaint were particularly weak.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,337 posts)
7. loyalty to the chief is too ingrained
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:49 PM
Sep 2019

It looked to me like his years of loyalty to Commander In Chief has overwhelmed his loyalty to his oath. It only takes a few seconds of thought to realize that consulting the target of a complaint instead of following the law results in the elimination of the oversight intended by that law.

Out of blind loyalty, he nearly managed to neuter the law.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
8. I kind of feel for the guy. Kind of.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 09:03 PM
Sep 2019

A whole life of service to his country and then after leaving service worked for injured vets.

I’m sure he saw serving in the government under Coats as a continuation of his career. And I would not doubt Coats and Gordon shielded him from the worst of what they saw. And Trump never trusted Coats. He is a horrible conservative but has never struck me as corrupt. So trump would not have involved him in his more sordid affairs. Till he eventually ditched him.

Then after a month or so of being the Acting DNI this shit dropped. You just know he is wishing he stayed in the private sector.

He will be gone by Christmas. If not sooner. You could tell today he wants out.

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