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(102,396 posts)DrToast
(6,414 posts)His opinion is as good as it gets.
Thekaspervote
(32,800 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,740 posts)I think he's right. Re-arranging the deck chairs isn't cutting it, anymore.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,464 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,815 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,847 posts)All the corrupt assholes that Nixon surrounded himself with were convicted and were facing sentences of like forty years.
They, at most, got 10-15 months at a camp cupcake.........
Cha
(297,754 posts)ffr
(22,672 posts)It's about a minute long to get wade in, but start at 2:07.
Cha
(297,754 posts)interesting.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)mgardener
(1,820 posts)Today said that Impeachment inquiry was necessary, but disruptive.
I remember the Nixon. Almost same thing was said, it would tear the country apart. Never mind the crime committed, it would tear us apart.
Republicans got away with an affront to the American people. Nixon was pardoned by Ford.
It is my belief that if we do not impeach Trump, then Trump will stop at nothing. He is already "joking" about 2025. We know about Trumps jokes.
This is the Democrats line in the sand.
Think about this. If Trump feels he can shakedown a foreign leader, what has he been doing to Republican leaders?
What happened to all those Rep leaders who were so anti Trump?
They will now do anything he wants.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)has done far more than just "disrupt".
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)Bye bye all you chickenshit aides and lawyers and minions
see you in hell
sheshe2
(83,934 posts)spanone
(135,888 posts)BootinUp
(47,197 posts)MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)superpatriotman
(6,252 posts)NOT.
NanceGreggs
(27,819 posts)This is the season finale of Law & Order - Trump-style - and as we all know, the guy who spills his guts first gets the best deal.
onetexan
(13,066 posts)Wiyh Adam Schiff ating as our Elliott Ness
bucolic_frolic
(43,337 posts)but I'm worried about the Fake News PR blitz. MAGAt's see no problem and Trumpers think they can sell it as a Witch Hunt.
Patriots only win when facts matter. We're a long way from home plate.
DENVERPOPS
(8,847 posts)We are a long, long way............
If anyone thinks that the Repubs, having mostly completed a complete COUP are not going to un the ante and come out full force they are sadly mistaken...........
If anyone disagrees with us Bucolic, they have had their heads in the sand since election night 2000. The Repubs mantra has ALWAYS BEEN: The end justifies the means..........
Some asshole in the Bush Admin stated openly to the Dems......"We do what we want, and all you can do is just standby and watch"
WASF
bucolic_frolic
(43,337 posts)John Schindler on Twitter, a former Intel Community guy, has been saying for months that the end of the year would be mind-blowing. Not that he didn't think they had Trump covered so to speak, but also that the fallout would not be limited entirely to one party. This has me keeping an eye out for those lurking in the shadows or trying to blend into the woodwork. I won't share my observations.
But take heart. This week's fireworks does not appear by my reasoning to be spontaneous, it's been months in the works. Sen. Chris Murphy CT for example said something about hearing things from Ukraine as early as April. It might have been an oops moment, but I just couldn't tell.
The election was stolen with guile and cunning and untraceable ops. If the rule of law answers it will be with similar methods, and the crooks will never be able to figure out how it happened.
PS. Strange that Trump's NY State tax litigation got such a long postponement. Wonder if they think it might be in some way moot soon?
Mr.Bill
(24,332 posts)They know two things: Their 401K is doing great and the entire whistleblower report is hearsay and completely made up. They know nothing else to support their approval of Trump. They did not even know about the transcript of the phone call being released.
One of them said Nancy Pelosi was committing Treason and should be in front of a firing squad.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Paul Ryan's already making his grab for redemption. It doesn't seem to be working very well for him yet.
You know, there are a whole bunch of people just itching to get back into government service. Career people who believe in government and its function in our society. When the current reign of error is over, we could be seeing a renaissance in government service. And no, Susan Sarandon, you don't get credit for it.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)I hope you're right about actual government servants wanting to return and restore order. It can't have been easy for them lo these past 3 years.
erronis
(15,368 posts)government.
There will be a new repuglicon movement with some meaningless name like Constitutional Con Artists of America pledging fealty to truth, happiness, and a chicken in every coop.
They will still be (R)ats and will still follow an agenda similar to CPAC, TP, Federalists, libertarians, corportatist greed-lords.
qazplm135
(7,447 posts).
I don't think there is any way that republicans could stop this now. Even if Trump tries to create a distraction, nothing he could say would be more newsworthy than impeachment!
Demovictory9
(32,479 posts)IronLionZion
(45,544 posts)A lot of people will swear they are the "good Germans" as the allies close in around the bunker.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)patriot, even if it's late.
TeamPooka
(24,259 posts)mitch96
(13,926 posts)Like Nixons tape recordings of his Oval Office meetings will be the down fall.
Getting a loyal conservative to pull them out and expose them would be GREAT!!
Then again I believe they are already shredded and burnt to cover up the acts.
M
erronis
(15,368 posts)I worked in a similar SCIF and no one believed that they could trust any deletion technique including drilling holes in platters, incinerating, degaussers, etc. So the stockpile of disks and tapes just kept on growing....
mitch96
(13,926 posts)So that area 51/chem trails/phony moon pic are still there???
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erronis
(15,368 posts)Everything's out there - as long as you look hard enough, and BELIEVE!
duforsure
(11,885 posts)By not answering questions will face criminal consequences, and they can't do like has been done by others, and those that won't speak will possibly be going to prison this time. They know it this time and some will be smart enough to speak without any reservations . The opening up to find all info on other overly classified materials from his phone conversations will happen knowing he's already broken the law. We're just seeing the tip of the ice burg , and I suspect Putin is not wanting his browbeating red donnie not to be publicized either, or corruption they are planning to do either.
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)this rapidly breaking open scandal to the fall of the Berlin Wall. One day the wall was there and the next day that spark of protest turned into formerly scared Berliners finding collective courage and tearing it down. I thought that was an excellent analogy.
Rick Wilson compared it to Watergate saying were in 1973 and now we're in 1974.
llmart
(15,555 posts)That's what's happening in the coming week. (Hopefully)
SWBTATTReg
(22,174 posts)IMHO more is going to come out on other things besides the 'find something on the Bidens in UKraine' scandal. As corrupt as rump is, as corrupt as the entire admin. is, there's bound to other stuff out there. RICO their a&&es (Congressional repugs) too, since they had to know what's going on too.