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This is the third impeachment investigation during my lifetime (Original Post) struggle4progress Sep 2019 OP
Same here Sherman A1 Sep 2019 #1
Yeah, me too. TomSlick Sep 2019 #9
Good point... Moostache Sep 2019 #2
Exactly. MineralMan Sep 2019 #3
I think that's because all previous presidents actually loved America Poiuyt Sep 2019 #4
Nixon was a complicated mess: he was part self-pitying and paranoid, part corrupt criminal, struggle4progress Sep 2019 #5
Same with me. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2019 #6
Same here, and I'm still angry about the Nixon pardon. shraby Sep 2019 #7
I fully expect customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #8

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
2. Good point...
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:09 AM
Sep 2019

I'm not sure about Andrew Johnson, but given the proximity to the actual Civil War of his presidency, I would highly doubt that he wanted to remind people of that either.

Only the current usurper is scumbag enough to sink to such depths...but if one lives in the gutter, is it really "sinking" or just "continuing to exist"?

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
4. I think that's because all previous presidents actually loved America
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:29 AM
Sep 2019

I believe that even Nixon wanted to do what was best for America. He was just using corrupt ways to do it. Trump, on the other hand, only cares about himself.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
5. Nixon was a complicated mess: he was part self-pitying and paranoid, part corrupt criminal,
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:33 AM
Sep 2019

part patriot, part skilled political operative. There's no good way to distill him down to a single flavor

Trump, however, is well-described as a narcissist

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
8. I fully expect
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:16 PM
Sep 2019

that Trump will agitate for secession of the red states upon leaving office, especially if it is from impeachment or electoral defeat.

Also, partisanship has grown so much during our lifetimes that impeachment is at least discussed with each new president, and will probably be attempted every 20-25 years by Congress.

We used to be one nation united, but I fear that unity is seriously imperiled.

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