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Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:37 PM

Holy shit!!!! All of Mueller Report ordered released by DC District Ct Judge!!

Total Mueller report ordered turned over!!!!!!

To house committee...need for disclosure is greater than need for secrecy...basis of ruling!!

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Reply Holy shit!!!! All of Mueller Report ordered released by DC District Ct Judge!! (Original post)
TruckFump Oct 2019 OP
still_one Oct 2019 #1
TruckFump Oct 2019 #2
uponit7771 Oct 2019 #4
Chin music Oct 2019 #3
TruckFump Oct 2019 #5
Midnight Writer Oct 2019 #6
TruckFump Oct 2019 #7
maryellen99 Oct 2019 #8
triron Oct 2019 #9
onenote Oct 2019 #13
TruckFump Oct 2019 #10
Patterson Oct 2019 #11
TruckFump Oct 2019 #12
onenote Oct 2019 #14
TruckFump Oct 2019 #16
onenote Oct 2019 #17
TruckFump Oct 2019 #18
onenote Oct 2019 #19
TruckFump Oct 2019 #21
renate Oct 2019 #15
TruckFump Oct 2019 #22
Gothmog Oct 2019 #20
smirkymonkey Oct 2019 #23

Response to TruckFump (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:38 PM

1. and they will appeal and delay

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Response to still_one (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:39 PM

2. Could get an expedited appeal.

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Response to still_one (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:39 PM

4. +1, it's good news and our expectations are set accordingly

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Response to Chin music (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:39 PM

5. Yep, along with all the GJ testimony

Woooooooohooooooooooo!!!!!

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Response to TruckFump (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:07 PM

6. Well, the Conservative Caucus wants openness and transparency. No more Closed Doors.

I hope, yet somehow doubt, that this move towards transparency makes them happy.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:09 PM

7. Yes, they certainly are going to just that !

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Response to TruckFump (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:11 PM

8. The unredacted report?

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Response to maryellen99 (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:13 PM

9. I am betting so but would like confirmation.

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Response to triron (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:23 PM

13. Yes. This is the ordering clause in the opinion:

For the foregoing reasons, HJC [House Judiciary Committee]'s application is granted. Consequently, DOJ is ordered to provide promptly, by October 30, 2019, to HJC all portions of the Mueller Report that were redacted pursuant to Rule 6(e) and any underlying transcripts or exhibits referenced in the portions of the Mueller Report that were redacted pursuant to Rule 6(e). HJC is permitted to file further requests articulating its particularized need for additional grand jury information requested in the initial application."

I'm not certain what the last sentence is referring to -- will have to read through the opinion (75 pages) to find out.

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Response to maryellen99 (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:16 PM

10. From what I have read, it appears so.

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Response to TruckFump (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:19 PM

11. It will be slow-walked to the Supreme Court.

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Response to Patterson (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:19 PM

12. Not if the lower court orders an expedited appeal.

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Response to TruckFump (Reply #12)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:24 PM

14. I don't think the District Court can tell the SCOTUS to expedite the case.

The key question is whether the order will be stayed pending further appeal.

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Response to onenote (Reply #14)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:30 PM

16. Does not go directly to the SCOTUS. Goes to D.C. Cir. Ct.

And the Supremes do not have to issue cert on it if the Trumpets appeal on a Cir. Ct. decision not in their favor. Either side can request an expedited appeal. It can be ordered.

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Response to TruckFump (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:38 PM

17. Several options are available

First, Trump can ask the District Court to stay its decision. If the judge follows the Watergate precedent, she might grant the stay conditioned on an appeal being filed within four or five days.
Second, Trump could appeal to US Ct. of Appeals for DC and ask them for a stay. Might be granted, particularly if the court is asked for and grants a request for expedited review.
Third, either or both Trump and the HJC could petition the SCOTUS for "certiorari before judgment" -- in other words, to skip over the Court of Appeals and go straight to the SCOTUS. This is the procedure followed in the Nixon case during Watergate, where both sides petition for certiorari before judgment and the SCOTUS granted the petitions "because of the public importance of the issues presented and the need for their prompt resolution." In the Watergate example, the SCOTUS ruling came roughly two months after the District Court ruling.

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Response to onenote (Reply #17)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:01 PM

18. IMO, I don't think that SCOTUS will get involved.

I used to do a lot of Fed appeals work. My law partner had been a Clerk on the 9th cir. before he was an AUSA in Calif Central District and all of this prior to private practice. But it has been years and all in Calif Central District to the 9th cir. I am used a liberal court, especially back when I was in active practice. IMO, too political for SCOTUS. That is just a gut reaction more than anything. Betting that they dodge this.

I don't think the Feddie courts will allow the Trumpets to sloooooooooow walk this. I also think, and it's ironic, that this is or could be a problem for the Barr crim investigation on how the Mueller investigation started. Once all the facts are out and Barr cannot spin it, it could be (I hope) the end of this kind of BS coming from Barr for the benefit of Trump that some crime was involved re the investigation of the 2016 election.

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Response to TruckFump (Reply #18)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:28 PM

19. Agree with you that the disclosure to the Committee of the redacted GJ material could put a damper

on Barr's effort to discredit the entire Mueller investigation.

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Response to onenote (Reply #19)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:58 PM

21. Seems to be interesting timing on this.

Here the crim investigation is ordered...and this is the next event. Karma IMO.

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Response to TruckFump (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:29 PM

15. I assume that means that only House investigators will get to see it, not the general public

Which is fine with me, if it means there's less of a basis for the DoJ to fight this on.

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Response to renate (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:59 PM

22. IMO, for now.

There is an impeachment investigation going on.

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Response to TruckFump (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 04:57 PM

20. Chairman @RepJerryNadler released the following statement

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Response to TruckFump (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 06:21 PM

23. K&R

 

Excellent!

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