Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:31 PM

TruckFump (5,006 posts)

Bolton will accept a subpoena to testify

Trump -- bend over and kiss your ass good-bye!!!!!

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Bolton will accept a subpoena to testify (Original post)	TruckFump	Oct 2019	OP
Where was that announced?	BumRushDaShow	Oct 2019	#1
Ari Melbar on MSNBC as Breaking News.	TruckFump	Oct 2019	#4
Normally I would be watching Ari but am watching the H.R. 660 inquiry markup on CSPAN3.	BumRushDaShow	Oct 2019	#11
HR 660 - I looked it up in Congress.gov and it's this:	calimary	Oct 2019	#37
It's the rules for the public portion of the impeachment inquiry	BumRushDaShow	Oct 2019	#45
Oh good! Thanks, BumRushDaShow!	calimary	Oct 2019	#67
You are welcome and thank YOU	BumRushDaShow	Oct 2019	#68
I admire you and wish you much energy and strength	tavernier	Oct 2019	#69
Accepting service doesn't mean that Bolton will abide by the subpoena, and appear,	rsdsharp	Oct 2019	#70
The Beat w/ Ari Melber n/t	Dennis Donovan	Oct 2019	#5
Just broke on MSNBC	madaboutharry	Oct 2019	#6
broadcast news ABC, CBS, NBC carried it this evening	Hermit-The-Prog	Oct 2019	#23
Yes - have been seeing it now	BumRushDaShow	Oct 2019	#38
We can hope Bolton has	Cha	Oct 2019	#2
I know what ya mean.	TruckFump	Oct 2019	#7
In a million years!	Cha	Oct 2019	#9
Bolton is a hard core right wing extremist	calguy	Oct 2019	#15
Thank Goodness! he could be another	Cha	Oct 2019	#18
Honorable is a strong word for a war monger.	Lucky Luciano	Oct 2019	#29
I don't think honorable on many things	calguy	Oct 2019	#39
Or maybe he's just not willing	Demobrat	Oct 2019	#57
You are probably correct	calguy	Oct 2019	#66
Let's reserve the accolades until he spills.	Aristus	Oct 2019	#59
Like being nostalgic for the Jeff Sessions era	central scrutinizer	Oct 2019	#28
I'm actually looking forward to Sessions running for the Senate--	dawg day	Oct 2019	#52
is bolton the whistle blower? i can't figure this one.	Kurt V.	Oct 2019	#46
K&R, I'm skeptical ... I don't trust Bolton just because he doesn't like Trump. Normal humans don't	uponit7771	Oct 2019	#3
Yes. Extremists who are enemies of our friends are not	Hortensis	Oct 2019	#16
Geoff Bennett tweet: sounds like he'll show up if subpoenaed	Dennis Donovan	Oct 2019	#8
He will lie. He will say he is the egg man.	Beakybird	Oct 2019	#10
Expert, texpert...	dchill	Oct 2019	#14
Choking smokers....	H2O Man	Oct 2019	#54
He'll find a way to eff things up just for the joy of monkeywrenching. n/t	TygrBright	Oct 2019	#12
I'm skeptical.	orangecrush	Oct 2019	#13
Me too.	Solomon	Oct 2019	#20
what if he asks for 3 bombs and an ICBM?	Hermit-The-Prog	Oct 2019	#24
Innocent until proven guilty...Lets be positive and hope he brings the final nail	Perseus	Oct 2019	#30
My gut tells me he will go for revenge.	TruckFump	Oct 2019	#35
That's my impression exactly.	soldierant	Oct 2019	#64
"I'm skeptical."	LenaBaby61	Oct 2019	#50
I don't like Bolton either. But	mgardener	Oct 2019	#63
Paybacks are hell.. Incoming karma for Trump	JCMach1	Oct 2019	#17
accept does not mean show up to testify nt	msongs	Oct 2019	#19
In a pit of vipers, investigators have to be very careful which snake will say what. I'm	wiggs	Oct 2019	#21
He's not really necessary at this point.	paleotn	Oct 2019	#22
But if he was straightforward in his testimony....	Brother Buzz	Oct 2019	#27
I think you raise a good point.	TruckFump	Oct 2019	#33
Bolton is a proponent of a dominant Executive. I don't trust him	redstateblues	Oct 2019	#25
I agree...but...	TruckFump	Oct 2019	#26
That is my number one reason to be skeptical.	BigmanPigman	Oct 2019	#41
True, but his idea of a Dominant Executive is one who	DeminPennswoods	Oct 2019	#47
Bolton is a rabid conservanazi.	TxVietVet	Oct 2019	#31
Wonder how the fox criminal propaganda network will handle THIS one?!	democratisphere	Oct 2019	#32
John who????	TruckFump	Oct 2019	#34
Never in my life did i think i would appreciate Bolton. But if	dem4decades	Oct 2019	#36
Bolton represents many rabid conservative ideas, but l suspect he will	Enoki33	Oct 2019	#40
Did they say he would comply with the subpoena and testify or just accept service?	StarfishSaver	Oct 2019	#42
See post #6	DeminPennswoods	Oct 2019	#48
Thanks!	StarfishSaver	Oct 2019	#62
live view of Schiff stuffing a subpoena into an envelope as fast as he can......	Takket	Oct 2019	#43
I don't trust him.	zentrum	Oct 2019	#44
I don't either.	Imperialism Inc.	Oct 2019	#49
i will not count one iota on Bolton	JDC	Oct 2019	#51
The right wingers are already trying to discredit Bolton as a member of the Deep State	Mr. Ected	Oct 2019	#53
I'm hoping Bolton has decided the damage of Trump 2 will be unsurvivable, and so	Maru Kitteh	Oct 2019	#55
Recommended.	H2O Man	Oct 2019	#56
Oh, this is going to get very interesting	peggysue2	Oct 2019	#58
Not at all excited. I can't see John Bolton trashing a Republican administration.	Goodheart	Oct 2019	#60
Trump will get a "third party" to try and buy him off....	kentuck	Oct 2019	#61
I hope he testifies.	patphil	Oct 2019	#65

Response to TruckFump (Original post)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:37 PM

BumRushDaShow (107,573 posts)

1. Where was that announced?

Have been watching CSPAN3 and the Rules committee markup of the resolution they will vote on tomorrow!

If this is so, I wanted to add that for Bolton? Revenge is a dish served cold.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:39 PM

TruckFump (5,006 posts)

4. Ari Melbar on MSNBC as Breaking News.

Bolton's atty said that he is authorized to accept service on behalf of Bolton according to the News Break.

Edit for typo.

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Response to TruckFump (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:45 PM

BumRushDaShow (107,573 posts)

11. Normally I would be watching Ari but am watching the H.R. 660 inquiry markup on CSPAN3.

Thank you, Dennis, and madaboutharry!!!!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:54 PM

calimary (73,906 posts)

37. HR 660 - I looked it up in Congress.gov and it's this:

“Community Health Improvement, Leadership, and Development Act of 2019” or "CHILD Act."

Is that the one? Or does it have to do with the impeachment inquiry?

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Response to calimary (Reply #37)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:01 PM

BumRushDaShow (107,573 posts)

45. It's the rules for the public portion of the impeachment inquiry

https://rules.house.gov/bill/116/h-res-PIH-inquiry

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-116hres660ih/pdf/BILLS-116hres660ih.pdf

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #45)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:34 AM

calimary (73,906 posts)

67. Oh good! Thanks, BumRushDaShow!

That helps a LOT!

Everything to me these days is about an ask. Working in my Indivisible group, we’ve got a pretty hot little Research & Writing team chugging along with this stuff. And we always need the facts WITH whatever ask it is, in case anyone wants more info or background info. Every ask that we write, that people can use to call their Congressmember or Senator about, comes with links to the info we used.

Links like those in your post literally “have our backs.” MANY thanks!

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Response to calimary (Reply #67)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:44 AM

BumRushDaShow (107,573 posts)

68. You are welcome and thank YOU

for being active in your local Indivisible!

I credit that group for our success in 2018!

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Response to calimary (Reply #67)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 07:52 AM

tavernier (11,169 posts)

69. I admire you and wish you much energy and strength

in days ahead.

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Response to TruckFump (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 10:04 AM

rsdsharp (6,786 posts)

70. Accepting service doesn't mean that Bolton will abide by the subpoena, and appear,

or testify if he does.

An attorney accepting service on behalf of a client just means that the client doesn't have to be personally served.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:39 PM

Dennis Donovan (18,761 posts)

5. The Beat w/ Ari Melber n/t

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:40 PM

madaboutharry (38,567 posts)

6. Just broke on MSNBC

"My client will not testify voluntarily. But my client is open to accepting a subpoena."

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:27 PM

Hermit-The-Prog (26,520 posts)

23. broadcast news ABC, CBS, NBC carried it this evening

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #23)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:55 PM

BumRushDaShow (107,573 posts)

38. Yes - have been seeing it now

I have the Rules Committee markup stream up in a tab and MSNBC on the TV.

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Response to TruckFump (Original post)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:38 PM

Cha (282,263 posts)

2. We can hope Bolton has

some juicy incriminating details he wants to impart.

Who ever knew we'd be cheering for Bolton testifying?!

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:40 PM

TruckFump (5,006 posts)

7. I know what ya mean.

Never have I thought I that would ever want to hear anything John Bolton had to say.

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Response to TruckFump (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:41 PM

Cha (282,263 posts)

9. In a million years!

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:05 PM

calguy (3,907 posts)

15. Bolton is a hard core right wing extremist

But it also looks like is an honorable man who respects the constitution and the rule of law. While I despise his right wing positions and actions, I have to respect him for the way he is handling this situation. Bullshit is bullshit and he is having none of trump's bullshit.

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Response to calguy (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:08 PM

Cha (282,263 posts)

18. Thank Goodness! he could be another

doormat like Graham or a hundred others

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Response to calguy (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:41 PM

Lucky Luciano (10,993 posts)

29. Honorable is a strong word for a war monger.

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Response to Lucky Luciano (Reply #29)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:55 PM

calguy (3,907 posts)

39. I don't think honorable on many things

But in this matter he is doing the honorable thing by cooperating and honoring Congressional authority. I respect him for that. And only in this one instance.

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Response to calguy (Reply #39)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 08:05 PM

Demobrat (7,976 posts)

57. Or maybe he's just not willing

To go to the mat for Donnie boy

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Response to Demobrat (Reply #57)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 09:39 PM

calguy (3,907 posts)

66. You are probably correct

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Response to calguy (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 08:09 PM

Aristus (61,044 posts)

59. Let's reserve the accolades until he spills.

If he says nothing but "I can't recall", that's not very honorable.

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:41 PM

central scrutinizer (11,140 posts)

28. Like being nostalgic for the Jeff Sessions era

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Response to central scrutinizer (Reply #28)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:51 PM

dawg day (7,947 posts)

52. I'm actually looking forward to Sessions running for the Senate--

because we'll get to hear Trump bleating and blaring about how Sessions "recused." "Who recuses? He didn't ask me. He recused!" making clear he isn't really up on what the word means.

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:04 PM

Kurt V. (5,624 posts)

46. is bolton the whistle blower? i can't figure this one.

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Response to TruckFump (Original post)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:38 PM

uponit7771 (88,305 posts)

3. K&R, I'm skeptical ... I don't trust Bolton just because he doesn't like Trump. Normal humans don't

... like racist child abusers.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:06 PM

Hortensis (55,030 posts)

16. Yes. Extremists who are enemies of our friends are not

our friends. Delusional and untrustworthy by nature, extremists aren't anyone's, and no one knows who they'll strike next.

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Response to TruckFump (Original post)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:41 PM

Dennis Donovan (18,761 posts)

8. Geoff Bennett tweet: sounds like he'll show up if subpoenaed

Link to tweet

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Response to TruckFump (Original post)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:41 PM

Beakybird (2,897 posts)

10. He will lie. He will say he is the egg man.

When he is threatened with the penalty of perjury, he will admit, "I am the Walrus! Goo goo ga joob!"

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #10)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:01 PM

dchill (34,722 posts)

14. Expert, texpert...

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Response to dchill (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:54 PM

H2O Man (70,584 posts)

54. Choking smokers....

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Response to TruckFump (Original post)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:57 PM

TygrBright (20,041 posts)

12. He'll find a way to eff things up just for the joy of monkeywrenching. n/t

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Response to TruckFump (Original post)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:01 PM

orangecrush (16,053 posts)

13. I'm skeptical.

Wait and see.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:10 PM

Solomon (12,057 posts)

20. Me too.

I don't trust it.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:30 PM

Hermit-The-Prog (26,520 posts)

24. what if he asks for 3 bombs and an ICBM?

Compensation for time and trouble, y'know.

I'm also just a bit skeptical of Bolton.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:42 PM

Perseus (4,341 posts)

30. Innocent until proven guilty...Lets be positive and hope he brings the final nail

I don't like Bolton, but as I like to be objective I will say something in his favour. Yes, he is a bit crazy, but he is knowledgeable of international affairs, and I believe he had an awakening while dancing around the creature, you could see in his face when he spoke about situations in different countries that he was upset about the stupidity of the creature.

He is also an angry man, and the creature hit him where it hurts the most, his pride, so I believe he is going all out to tell the stories that will out the final nail on the impeachment.

I am staying positive, I hope I am right.

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Response to Perseus (Reply #30)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:53 PM

TruckFump (5,006 posts)

35. My gut tells me he will go for revenge.

Trump embarrassed him...and I do not think he took that lightly.

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Response to Perseus (Reply #30)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 08:25 PM

soldierant (4,868 posts)

64. That's my impression exactly.

It's not honor exactly, but it is a form of honor. Evil isn't all alike. There are different kinds of evil. And I think Bolton's evil is of a kind that cannot stomach Trump's kind.

But who could have guessed that "hostile witness" may just mean a war hawk?

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:34 PM

LenaBaby61 (6,335 posts)

50. "I'm skeptical."

Same here ....

I'm NOT going to get my hopes up in ANY way. The man's a neo-con/war hawk.

Like you, I'm taking a wait and see posture ...

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Response to LenaBaby61 (Reply #50)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 08:18 PM

mgardener (1,537 posts)

63. I don't like Bolton either. But

I don't think John Bolton has any love of Russia.
I think he knows what Russia has on Trump and why Trump is subservient to Putin.
Bolton knows what went on in Ukraine.
I think he will turn on Trump.

I think impeachment was always in the back of the Republican establishment's minds when Trump became their nominee. They knew he was a loose cannon.
They forced Pence as a VP on Trump in exchange for their support.
If Trump need to be impeached then Pence was a viable alternative for them

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Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:07 PM

JCMach1 (27,039 posts)

17. Paybacks are hell.. Incoming karma for Trump

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Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:09 PM

msongs (65,203 posts)

19. accept does not mean show up to testify nt

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Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:25 PM

wiggs (7,184 posts)

21. In a pit of vipers, investigators have to be very careful which snake will say what. I'm

sure Schiff and team triple check all leads, documents, rumors, witnesses, etc so they don't get Rather'd. Their is no bottom, no tactic too low, for the Trump circle...let's hope Bolton is at least honest.

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Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:25 PM

paleotn (15,306 posts)

22. He's not really necessary at this point.

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Response to paleotn (Reply #22)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:40 PM

Brother Buzz (32,706 posts)

27. But if he was straightforward in his testimony....

He could flip neocon senators.

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #27)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:50 PM

TruckFump (5,006 posts)

33. I think you raise a good point.

That may also give some of the Rs cover to go against Trump as well.

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Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:36 PM

redstateblues (10,554 posts)

25. Bolton is a proponent of a dominant Executive. I don't trust him

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:38 PM

TruckFump (5,006 posts)

26. I agree...but...

...IMO Trump publicly embarrassed him. IMO, paybacks are hell.

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:58 PM

BigmanPigman (48,384 posts)

41. That is my number one reason to be skeptical.

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:22 PM

DeminPennswoods (14,757 posts)

47. True, but his idea of a Dominant Executive is one who

is that in service of Bolton's ideas of foreign policy.

Bolton probably felt he was so smart and such a brilliant bureaucratic fighter, he could impose his hawkish, war-mongering views on Trump. He already had a head start with Trump's strong support of Israel and hatred of Iran.
Turns out he didn't count on Trump's ability to do whatever he wants no matter what and found out first hand about Rick Wilson's ETTD theory.

Bolton was unceremoniously dumped and, in so many words, promised revenge. This is his chance.

I do think the Dem staff will have to take care to frame their questions to limit him taking pot shots at them in his answers.

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Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:44 PM

TxVietVet (1,902 posts)

31. Bolton is a rabid conservanazi.

I don't trust him. Under oath, maybe.

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Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:50 PM

democratisphere (17,235 posts)

32. Wonder how the fox criminal propaganda network will handle THIS one?!

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Response to democratisphere (Reply #32)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:52 PM

TruckFump (5,006 posts)

34. John who????

Maybe that or try and dirty him. IMO, I think if angered Bolton could be dangerous to the RWs...so they may tread lightly.

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Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:54 PM

dem4decades (10,082 posts)

36. Never in my life did i think i would appreciate Bolton. But if

He shows and tells the truth. I'm suddenly a fan.

Of sorts.

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Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:55 PM

Enoki33 (1,519 posts)

40. Bolton represents many rabid conservative ideas, but l suspect he will

not condone the betrayal of what he perceives as being in our best national security interest.

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Response to TruckFump (Original post)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 06:59 PM

StarfishSaver (18,486 posts)

42. Did they say he would comply with the subpoena and testify or just accept service?

Those are two different things.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #42)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:24 PM

DeminPennswoods (14,757 posts)

48. See post #6

Accept subpoena, but I think he wants to testify to exact revenge on Trump.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #48)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 08:13 PM

StarfishSaver (18,486 posts)

62. Thanks!

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Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:00 PM

Takket (18,232 posts)

43. live view of Schiff stuffing a subpoena into an envelope as fast as he can......

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Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:00 PM

zentrum (9,859 posts)

44. I don't trust him.

Not sure what this means or how truly patriotic he will be. He's an extreme right winger.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #44)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:33 PM

Imperialism Inc. (2,494 posts)

49. I don't either.

I find the fact that he asked to subpoenaed to be a little strange. Maybe he is just covering his butt, but it could also be because he is hostile to the inquiry.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #44)

Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:42 PM

JDC (9,374 posts)

51. i will not count one iota on Bolton

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Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:52 PM

Mr. Ected (9,172 posts)

53. The right wingers are already trying to discredit Bolton as a member of the Deep State

Which, I suppose, is better than their allegiance to the Derp State.

I just hope that Bolton takes Trump to tusk.

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Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:54 PM

Maru Kitteh (26,226 posts)

55. I'm hoping Bolton has decided the damage of Trump 2 will be unsurvivable, and so

does his duty to bring this era of chaos and subservience to the Kremlin to an end.

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Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:59 PM

H2O Man (70,584 posts)

56. Recommended.

This is good news.

Those identifying Bolton as our enemy are correct. Those calling him a war monger are, too. And whoever says the worst things about him on this thread needs to double his/her insults. And Bolton is still a lot worse than that.

However, in this case, it is important that he testify. We likely won't agree with some of what he says. But he will help document the important things. That's not because we are on the same team. We definitely are not. But we currently recognize a common opponent.

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Wed Oct 30, 2019, 08:07 PM

peggysue2 (9,582 posts)