Impeachment: Three Presidents in the last 45 Years.

[blogslut]

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That's a lot compared to a single president impeached in the preceding 185 years. What's different? Is it because America's population is way bigger and harder to manage? Is it because we pay more attention now? Is it because of greed and/or capitalism? Is it because things fall apart?

[Xipe Totec]

1. It's because we keep electing assholes to the highest office in the land

We've turned presidential elections into... not popularity contests, but notoriety contests.

[Dem4Life1102]

3. Bill Clinton was an asshole?

[Xipe Totec]

7. Actually, yes, he was.

Let's be honest. he was not a Boy Scout.

[Dem4Life1102]

9. No he wasn't

JFK and FDR weren’t Boy Scouts either.

[Xipe Totec]

11. Explain your logic, please

Because what you are saying is that Because JFK and FDR weren't Boy Scouts either, that makes Clinton not an asshole.

He cheated on his wife, for Chrissake, had his penis in a bimbo's mouth in the oval office. Stuck a cigar up her you know what...

And the Democratic party was put in the embarrassing position of having to pull his nuts out of an impeachment fire.

Yea, he was an asshole.

[Yeehah]

13. None of that being "high crimes and misdemeanors"

except to fascist, power hungry republican traitors.

Edit: Although I do agree he was an asshole.

[Xipe Totec]

14. I didn't say they were "high crimes and misdemeanors"

I said Clinton was an asshole.

And we keep electing assholes to high office based on their notoriety.

Got that clear now?

[Yeehah]

16. And I didn't say Clinton was not an asshole.

Got that clear now, ace?

[Xipe Totec]

17. You did by implication. But I'll let that slide. nt

[Yeehah]

20. Oh thank you so much!!!!!

LOL

[Xipe Totec]

21. I'm glad we're laughing. That's a good start.

[Xipe Totec]

15. What we need to do is to select men/women of high integrity as our candidates.

And hope the other party does the same.

So that even when the candidate of the other party wins the election, regardless of his policies, we know that there's a person of integrity in the Oval Office.

[Dem4Life1102]

18. FDR and JFK

cheated on their wives too. Didn’t make them or Clinton assholes.

[Xipe Totec]

19. That's mighty macho of you. Please explain.

Explain how men who cheat on their wives are not assholes.

[Dem4Life1102]

24. So you think FDR and JFK were assholes?

[NCLefty]

32. And lied under oath: a crime.

[AkFemDem]

27. Clinton was an asshole because...

He used his position of power both as governor and president, to coerce women who were subordinate to him into relations. And unlike a preceding poster who agrees he was an asshole but called one of his victims a bimbo- I put the blame squarely on him and not on the 22 year old intern who realistically had no option but to accommodate him.

[Dem4Life1102]

30. Those are RW talking points

Do you believe Paula Jones and Juanita Broderick too?

[AkFemDem]

31. Damned right I do, and as for Rw talking points...

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

What part of “I believe women” do some of you so called progressives not understand? It’s not always convenient, but I don’t care if it’s convenient.

If I’m gonna call out Kavenaugh, then I’m also gonna call out Clinton.

[Dem4Life1102]

34. Yet both denied their accusations

when first asked. Broderick twice under oath. It wasn’t until RW organizations backed them financially that they changed their stories.

[Uncle Joe]

2. Good questions, my money is on a combination of the last two questions

being intricately tied together.

Corporate supremacy began its' rise after Andrew Johnson's impeachment.

"Is it because of greed and/or capitalism? Is it because things fall apart?

Thanks for the thread blogslut.

[JenniferJuniper]

4. Nixon wasn't impeached

He was a crazy crook, but not a stupid one. He knew enough to bail.

[Drunken Irishman]

5. Nixon wasn't technically impeached - he resigned before it got that far...

But he certainly would have had he stayed in office.

[roamer65]

6. How many emperors were there in Rome during the last 100 years of it?

This empire is on its death bed.

[snowybirdie]

8. You're forgetting

Andrew Johnson in 1868. Nixon wasn't impeached. He resigned. So two impeachments. No removals.

[blogslut]

12. Not forgetting Johnson

I mentioned him above just not by name.

And yeah, I know Nixon wasn't impeached but they sure as hell drew up the articles. I mean big boy hasn't been impeached...yet.

I'm trying to ask the bigger questions. Is our country more corrupt now than it was before? Are we speeding things up somehow? Stuff like that.

[Gore1FL]

10. Clinton's was politically motivated.

But we should have impeached Reagan over Iran Contra. We should have impeached George W. Bush over Iraq.

What's different? I'd like to say greed. Don't get me wrong. I don't think there is more greed than there ever was. I do think it has become increasingly empowered.

[rurallib]

25. always thought Clinton's impeachment was payback for Nixon's.

Carter was too soon after Nixon and Dems controlled the congress. Their next shot was Clinton so impeachment was almost baked into his presidency.

Trump has just been begging for someone to do something so he can marshall his "army" of Republicans and destroy democracy.

[StarfishSaver]

22. With the exception of Trump, who is a category unto himself, presidents in the pre-mass media age

did not receive the same scrutiny as those who served in the past half century. If every aspect of the lives and behavior of FDR or JFK or Woodrow Wilson, and many other presidents were as widely and deeply known as those of more recent presidents, we probably would have had more impeachments over the years.

[RobinA]

23. It's Only Going To Get Worse

Repubs will try everything possible to make sure the next Dem Pres. gets impeached.

[evertonfc]

26. Bill

I have a co worker who is a very well connected political operative in Nashville. He spent hours with both Bill Clinton and Obama. As candidates he said Obama was a bit of an ass personally. He said Bill Clinton was the most personable candidate he has seen in 40 years and he has seen them all in intimate settings. He still says Clinton was the best campaigner of his lifetime. An educated red neck. lol.

[AkFemDem]

29. Bill Clinton is extremely likable in person-

His charisma is even better in the flesh, even in more casual encounters.

He’s still an asshole for the way he treated women whose jobs depended on his satisfaction.

[Buzz cook]

33. Don't buy into the lie.

Paula Jones never presented any evidence that Clinton had mistreated her or that he had met her at any time in any hotel room. Once under oath she refused to name a date, day of the week or general time of day in which Clinton had "assailed" her. No other person backed her story up.
The only reason we heard of Jones was because she shopped her story to wealthy republicans who then backed her grift.

Monica Lewinsky was an adult who while in college said she planned to get presidential knee pads. In there first meeting Lewinsky showed off her thong to Clinton.
Lewinsky was not a mistreated naif. She was an adult she sought out the relationship and engaged in it consensually.

There is no evidence that Clinton used his position to coerce either Jones or Lewinsky. No evidence that Clinton by word or deed influenced how they were treated in their work.

These were the only two women who worked for Clinton and had or claimed to have a sexual interaction with Clinton.

https://www.amazon.com/Hunting-President-Ten-Year-Campaign-Destroy-ebook/dp/B00AAYFAME

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0391225/

There have been decades of lies about Bill Clinton and unfortunately they have become the common wisdom.

[AkFemDem]

28. I think the news cycle exposes much more than was available...

Prior to the age of television. It’s really quite possible there were leaders previously who if under a true national spotlight, also wouldn’t have escaped.

[Mc Mike]

35. It's because the repugs have gotten more radical, criminal, and radically criminal

post-Eisenhower.