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kentuck

(111,665 posts)
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 10:53 AM Nov 2019

"Trump just wears people down".

How many times have we heard that?

When he wears "people" down, he is wearing the country down.

Giving credit where credit is due, Donald Trump is a master propagandist, unlike any we have seen in recent times. He is very adept at manipulation and division. He exploits the emotions of "his side" by tearing down his opponents with nicknames and ridicule.

And he never stops. One day just flows into the next.

Also, he is an accomplished liar. He will tell a lie to your face and never give you a chance to question it or to ask him about it. He controls the message that he wants to put out. He controls "his people" just as a cult leader will control his worshipers.

His opponents hope that the truth and the facts will eventually win the day. Meanwhile, they conserve their energy and try not to wear down from the sensory assault.

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"Trump just wears people down". (Original Post) kentuck Nov 2019 OP
Plus, as a sociopath, he has no conscience and feels no pain. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2019 #1
AND. He suffers NO consequences. n/t CousinIT Nov 2019 #34
He does wear people down. Why doesn't he ever get worn down? Mike 03 Nov 2019 #2
Because he feeds off the effect he has on other people. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #7
Yeah; it's probably the only thing keeping him alive. Sugar Smack Nov 2019 #11
The harder, more abrasive substance Harker Nov 2019 #23
Adderall and sociopathy. belpejic Nov 2019 #33
"I only feel alive when I'm fighting people..." Roy Cohn LanternWaste Nov 2019 #39
He is very much aided by the mindset of millions... Guilded Lilly Nov 2019 #3
That IMO is what is worse than tRump and could be disastrous. Someone could come along even worse RKP5637 Nov 2019 #5
I tend to agree. His type of treachery has enabled the worst of humanity... Guilded Lilly Nov 2019 #8
Yep! busterbrown Nov 2019 #30
Truth always win! Butterflylady Nov 2019 #4
He doesn't spend energy on work, only on "wearing people down." SharonAnn Nov 2019 #6
I want the impeachment process to wear him down. dalton99a Nov 2019 #9
+1 2naSalit Nov 2019 #10
+2 Delmette2.0 Nov 2019 #14
My better half showed me a recent video clip of him... paleotn Nov 2019 #15
+1. Maybe he'll die at 93 from Alzheimer's like his Klansman father dalton99a Nov 2019 #18
Your post is the best thing I've seen online in weeks Orrex Nov 2019 #24
Isn't wearing me down. paleotn Nov 2019 #12
He's like a toddler. Collimator Nov 2019 #13
Yes, Trump wears people down in the political, socioeconomic environment that we currently live in. Yavin4 Nov 2019 #16
I'd tend to agree. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2019 #32
Excellent that the Effects of Poverty are Highlighted McKim Nov 2019 #41
This is why I want him to suffer a massive, debilitating stroke Orrex Nov 2019 #17
I want karma to give him a beautiful and perfect demise dalton99a Nov 2019 #20
Oh, yes. ChazInAz Nov 2019 #22
I have dealt with people like him. Blue_true Nov 2019 #19
Absolutely. He never gives up. Everything you mentioned is spot on. But he is intimidated by certain Pepsidog Nov 2019 #21
Great thought DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #26
I call it the 'tRump Trot', to contrast it with the 'Gish Gallop'. SeattleVet Nov 2019 #25
Post removed Post removed Nov 2019 #27
I have a feeling there are a ton of people just sick of the 24x7 drama he demands. CrispyQ Nov 2019 #28
Donald Trump: making the unthinkable thinkable. dchill Nov 2019 #29
***** the media wears people down ******** erlewyne Nov 2019 #31
The constant barrage of bullshit is rather exhausting...and that's by design, of course. Garrett78 Nov 2019 #35
He's a floating, swirling turd that never quite flushes Blue Owl Nov 2019 #36
The media allows him to go mostly unchecked. LiberalFighter Nov 2019 #37
He's not gonna wear me down! Fuck him! ElementaryPenguin Nov 2019 #38
He is a malignant narcissist. This is what they do. Claritie Pixie Nov 2019 #40
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2019 #42
The "Flying Monkeys"? kentuck Nov 2019 #43

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
2. He does wear people down. Why doesn't he ever get worn down?
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:01 AM
Nov 2019

From day one I've predicted at some point he would become exhausted from a combination of our resistance and his own anger, but it never happens. He uses anger like cars use gasolene, I guess, as fuel.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(117,796 posts)
7. Because he feeds off the effect he has on other people.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:08 AM
Nov 2019

He's like the Dementors in the Harry Potter books.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
3. He is very much aided by the mindset of millions...
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:01 AM
Nov 2019

in this country to be dense, shallow, easily corrupted, hampered by Reality TV disease, empty arrogance, dimwits and readiness to embrace hate, bigotry and misogyny.
And that’s just for starters.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
5. That IMO is what is worse than tRump and could be disastrous. Someone could come along even worse
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:05 AM
Nov 2019

and these damn fools would worship them.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
8. I tend to agree. His type of treachery has enabled the worst of humanity...
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:10 AM
Nov 2019

and once they are enabled, they may be extremely hard to get back under their rocks!
Pandora’s Box, etc. etc. etc.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
30. Yep!
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 01:54 PM
Nov 2019

90% of our misery is due to the idiots you mentioned above..
Don't forget the his xenophobic antics..

Too many read into Trump as being very calculating with his ability to control so many.
Hate spreads very quickly and easily when you have a population filled with people who are just plain ignorant and full of hate.. They take hate bait as easily as they drink water..

dalton99a

(82,484 posts)
9. I want the impeachment process to wear him down.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:11 AM
Nov 2019

Expose all his crimes, not just the Ukraine phone call


paleotn

(18,477 posts)
15. My better half showed me a recent video clip of him...
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 12:24 PM
Nov 2019

and pointed out he's showing even more serious neurological issues, in addition to what appears to be frontal temporal lobe dementia. She thinks he's going to pop and pop soon. If this keeps up, they're going to be picking his fat ass up off the floor of the oval office.

dalton99a

(82,484 posts)
18. +1. Maybe he'll die at 93 from Alzheimer's like his Klansman father
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 12:34 PM
Nov 2019

The slow decline has begun. One day he will refuse to believe that he was ever president.

Right now his evilness is worse than ever.


Orrex

(63,574 posts)
24. Your post is the best thing I've seen online in weeks
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 01:07 PM
Nov 2019

And that includes the gorilla dancing in the swimming pool.

paleotn

(18,477 posts)
12. Isn't wearing me down.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 12:15 PM
Nov 2019

His propaganda is useless on me and the more shit he pulls the more adamant I am about not only impeaching the mother fucker, but locking his ass in the Colorado super max for the rest of his miserable orange life.

Collimator

(1,664 posts)
13. He's like a toddler.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 12:16 PM
Nov 2019

He will keep at it and at it until he gets what he wants.

The staff looking after him when he was a child didn't have any real authority to curb his behavior. And those with authority in his life didn't really care about his behavior because they could walk away and leave him to the staff.

As to what Trump really wants. . .probably his father's approval and his mother's affection. It explains his love of autocrats and his need for attention and praise.

He really is just a angry baby who has been given a hammer by disinterested caregivers. . . Except that the hammer is now a nuclear arsenal. But, hey, how could that cause trouble?

Yavin4

(35,587 posts)
16. Yes, Trump wears people down in the political, socioeconomic environment that we currently live in.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 12:26 PM
Nov 2019

Due to the last 40 years of weighing major federal policy initiatives towards the wealthy, massive tax cuts, de-regulation of media, media consolidation, Citizens United, voter suppression, de-funding of public education, etc., these policies created the environment for an authoritarian wannabe like Trump to exist and thrive.

Given the cost of housing, education, healthcare, etc., most Americans were already worn down prior to Trump.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
32. I'd tend to agree.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 02:05 PM
Nov 2019

I think he also is entertaining to his followers. He’s like a crappy Catskills comedian, mugging shamelessly and leaving sentences unfinished, while he winks and smirks. Or takes up a shotgun holdin’ pose. They can fill in the blanks themselves while thinking their trumpy ( gak 🤮 ) understands them.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
41. Excellent that the Effects of Poverty are Highlighted
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 12:43 AM
Nov 2019

Thanks for this post. You have highlighted the importance of recognizing that about 40% of Americans are struggling households treading water or going under! This is the big issue. The money in this country that their labor produced has been sucked up to the top 1% and fewer public goods have created this disaster.

Orrex

(63,574 posts)
17. This is why I want him to suffer a massive, debilitating stroke
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 12:27 PM
Nov 2019

Well, one of the many reasons.

I want him to suffer a stroke so severe that his eyes pop out of his skull, on live tv, with his bladder and bowels simultaneously giving way as he collapses in a gibbering heap behind the podium.

I want his stroke to be so severe that it takes out Pence while he stands at Trump's side.

I do not advocate or endorse the initiation of violence, but I will dance with glee when this stupid, hateful, corrupt, destructive motherfucker dies.


And to you all you lurking idiot racist fuckheads from various Conservative cesspit forums: you can all go fuck yourselves, too.

dalton99a

(82,484 posts)
20. I want karma to give him a beautiful and perfect demise
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 12:42 PM
Nov 2019

100% natural, full of unremitting pain and inconsolable suffering and phenomenal humiliation - the best EVER


ChazInAz

(2,643 posts)
22. Oh, yes.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 12:50 PM
Nov 2019

Lingering, painful, preferably with really embarrassing symptoms, with him being agonizingly aware of how revolting it all is.
I'm not a vindictive person, but we Szekely Magyars have our own little ways of dealing with people like him.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. I have dealt with people like him.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 12:36 PM
Nov 2019

They are not smart always, but they always have a singular focus on getting what they want. You just have to have the resolution and discipline to out last them, eventually they give up.

Pepsidog

(6,287 posts)
21. Absolutely. He never gives up. Everything you mentioned is spot on. But he is intimidated by certain
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 12:47 PM
Nov 2019

people like other dictators, very wealthy people. I think Michelle Obama would intimidate the shit out of him and destroy him in an election.

SeattleVet

(5,514 posts)
25. I call it the 'tRump Trot', to contrast it with the 'Gish Gallop'.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 01:23 PM
Nov 2019

If you don't know what the Gish Gallop is, just listen to Kellyanne for more than, oh, say 2 or 4 seconds. She spews a firehose of bullshit so fast as she jumps around from topic to topic that it is impossible to correct more than one or two points before she engineers another bullshit train. (Named for Duane Gish, a creationist that used the technique whenever he was 'debating' anyone with a reality-based background. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop )

tRump isn't nearly as good at it as Kellyanne, but if you listen to what he spews you'll see the same sort of form - spewing a vast amount of crap in a short time, making it impossible to refute everything that has come out of his piehole.

Response to SeattleVet (Reply #25)

CrispyQ

(37,075 posts)
28. I have a feeling there are a ton of people just sick of the 24x7 drama he demands.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 01:47 PM
Nov 2019

They better get out and vote in 2020!

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
31. ***** the media wears people down ********
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 02:03 PM
Nov 2019

They keep repeating his lies and I am so tired of clicking
on a script and have to look at his face. I do not need to
read the text and more often I do not ... it is like looking
at a piece of shit while eating. I just move on.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,827 posts)
38. He's not gonna wear me down! Fuck him!
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 02:30 PM
Nov 2019

We're all staying right on top of every one of his crimes!!!

The Orange Emperor has no clothes, no brains, and no sense of decency!


Claritie Pixie

(2,199 posts)
40. He is a malignant narcissist. This is what they do.
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 03:12 PM
Nov 2019

Inclose personal relationships, these people are adept at mind games and crazymaking. They are able to "break" their target down in ways that are toxic to that person's mental and physical health, ruining their
life. The only way to survive is to cut off all contact with the malignant naricissist.

Now, extrapolate that to an entire population of targets. A portion of which are incapable of seeing him for who he is, or know who he is, and play along (flying monkeys). Another group see his pathology and push against it, trying to hold him accountable. This group becomes exhausted and discouraged, as he rages against them.

Unlike personal relationships, the latter group is unable to get away from him. We are trapped, with the only solution to remove him.

His pathology is wearing down the entire country, regardless of whether we're for or against him.

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