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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Trump just wears people down".
How many times have we heard that?
When he wears "people" down, he is wearing the country down.
Giving credit where credit is due, Donald Trump is a master propagandist, unlike any we have seen in recent times. He is very adept at manipulation and division. He exploits the emotions of "his side" by tearing down his opponents with nicknames and ridicule.
And he never stops. One day just flows into the next.
Also, he is an accomplished liar. He will tell a lie to your face and never give you a chance to question it or to ask him about it. He controls the message that he wants to put out. He controls "his people" just as a cult leader will control his worshipers.
His opponents hope that the truth and the facts will eventually win the day. Meanwhile, they conserve their energy and try not to wear down from the sensory assault.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)CousinIT
(9,894 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)From day one I've predicted at some point he would become exhausted from a combination of our resistance and his own anger, but it never happens. He uses anger like cars use gasolene, I guess, as fuel.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(119,920 posts)He's like the Dementors in the Harry Potter books.
Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)Harker
(14,703 posts)does most of the eroding.
belpejic
(728 posts)Bad combo. Kind of like a certain German dictator and meth.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)in this country to be dense, shallow, easily corrupted, hampered by Reality TV disease, empty arrogance, dimwits and readiness to embrace hate, bigotry and misogyny.
And thats just for starters.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)and these damn fools would worship them.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)and once they are enabled, they may be extremely hard to get back under their rocks!
Pandoras Box, etc. etc. etc.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)90% of our misery is due to the idiots you mentioned above..
Don't forget the his xenophobic antics..
Too many read into Trump as being very calculating with his ability to control so many.
Hate spreads very quickly and easily when you have a population filled with people who are just plain ignorant and full of hate.. They take hate bait as easily as they drink water..
Butterflylady
(3,927 posts)The problem is on how long it takes, but it always wins.
SharonAnn
(13,852 posts)He does nothing else.
dalton99a
(83,840 posts)Expose all his crimes, not just the Ukraine phone call
paleotn
(18,978 posts)and pointed out he's showing even more serious neurological issues, in addition to what appears to be frontal temporal lobe dementia. She thinks he's going to pop and pop soon. If this keeps up, they're going to be picking his fat ass up off the floor of the oval office.
dalton99a
(83,840 posts)The slow decline has begun. One day he will refuse to believe that he was ever president.
Right now his evilness is worse than ever.
Orrex
(63,886 posts)And that includes the gorilla dancing in the swimming pool.
paleotn
(18,978 posts)His propaganda is useless on me and the more shit he pulls the more adamant I am about not only impeaching the mother fucker, but locking his ass in the Colorado super max for the rest of his miserable orange life.
Collimator
(1,840 posts)He will keep at it and at it until he gets what he wants.
The staff looking after him when he was a child didn't have any real authority to curb his behavior. And those with authority in his life didn't really care about his behavior because they could walk away and leave him to the staff.
As to what Trump really wants. . .probably his father's approval and his mother's affection. It explains his love of autocrats and his need for attention and praise.
He really is just a angry baby who has been given a hammer by disinterested caregivers. . . Except that the hammer is now a nuclear arsenal. But, hey, how could that cause trouble?
Yavin4
(35,915 posts)Due to the last 40 years of weighing major federal policy initiatives towards the wealthy, massive tax cuts, de-regulation of media, media consolidation, Citizens United, voter suppression, de-funding of public education, etc., these policies created the environment for an authoritarian wannabe like Trump to exist and thrive.
Given the cost of housing, education, healthcare, etc., most Americans were already worn down prior to Trump.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I think he also is entertaining to his followers. Hes like a crappy Catskills comedian, mugging shamelessly and leaving sentences unfinished, while he winks and smirks. Or takes up a shotgun holdin pose. They can fill in the blanks themselves while thinking their trumpy ( gak 🤮 ) understands them.
McKim
(2,412 posts)Thanks for this post. You have highlighted the importance of recognizing that about 40% of Americans are struggling households treading water or going under! This is the big issue. The money in this country that their labor produced has been sucked up to the top 1% and fewer public goods have created this disaster.
Orrex
(63,886 posts)Well, one of the many reasons.
I want him to suffer a stroke so severe that his eyes pop out of his skull, on live tv, with his bladder and bowels simultaneously giving way as he collapses in a gibbering heap behind the podium.
I want his stroke to be so severe that it takes out Pence while he stands at Trump's side.
I do not advocate or endorse the initiation of violence, but I will dance with glee when this stupid, hateful, corrupt, destructive motherfucker dies.
And to you all you lurking idiot racist fuckheads from various Conservative cesspit forums: you can all go fuck yourselves, too.
dalton99a
(83,840 posts)100% natural, full of unremitting pain and inconsolable suffering and phenomenal humiliation - the best EVER
ChazInAz
(2,761 posts)Lingering, painful, preferably with really embarrassing symptoms, with him being agonizingly aware of how revolting it all is.
I'm not a vindictive person, but we Szekely Magyars have our own little ways of dealing with people like him.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)They are not smart always, but they always have a singular focus on getting what they want. You just have to have the resolution and discipline to out last them, eventually they give up.
Pepsidog
(6,293 posts)people like other dictators, very wealthy people. I think Michelle Obama would intimidate the shit out of him and destroy him in an election.
DENVERPOPS
(9,828 posts)But that for sure would start a devastating civil war........
SeattleVet
(5,576 posts)If you don't know what the Gish Gallop is, just listen to Kellyanne for more than, oh, say 2 or 4 seconds. She spews a firehose of bullshit so fast as she jumps around from topic to topic that it is impossible to correct more than one or two points before she engineers another bullshit train. (Named for Duane Gish, a creationist that used the technique whenever he was 'debating' anyone with a reality-based background. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop )
tRump isn't nearly as good at it as Kellyanne, but if you listen to what he spews you'll see the same sort of form - spewing a vast amount of crap in a short time, making it impossible to refute everything that has come out of his piehole.
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CrispyQ
(37,961 posts)They better get out and vote in 2020!
dchill
(40,099 posts)erlewyne
(1,115 posts)They keep repeating his lies and I am so tired of clicking
on a script and have to look at his face. I do not need to
read the text and more often I do not ... it is like looking
at a piece of shit while eating. I just move on.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Blue Owl
(54,331 posts)n/t
LiberalFighter
(53,366 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,834 posts)We're all staying right on top of every one of his crimes!!!
The Orange Emperor has no clothes, no brains, and no sense of decency!
Claritie Pixie
(2,199 posts)Inclose personal relationships, these people are adept at mind games and crazymaking. They are able to "break" their target down in ways that are toxic to that person's mental and physical health, ruining their
life. The only way to survive is to cut off all contact with the malignant naricissist.
Now, extrapolate that to an entire population of targets. A portion of which are incapable of seeing him for who he is, or know who he is, and play along (flying monkeys). Another group see his pathology and push against it, trying to hold him accountable. This group becomes exhausted and discouraged, as he rages against them.
Unlike personal relationships, the latter group is unable to get away from him. We are trapped, with the only solution to remove him.
His pathology is wearing down the entire country, regardless of whether we're for or against him.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)kentuck
(112,515 posts)The visual is long-lasting.