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orangecrush

(19,546 posts)
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:40 PM Nov 2019

'The Force of Trump's Lying Has Ruptured the Space-Time Continuum': Steve Schmidt on Impeachment

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Last week, Schmidt returned to MSNBC after an eight-month hiatus, which included a stint as an advisor to Howard Schultz’s brief and inglorious flirtation with a third-party run. Intelligencer caught up with Schmidt on the phone this week and asked him about impeachment, the Schultz debacle, and the Democratic fiel

A few days ago you said that we’ve entered the “consequences stage” of the presidency. What are the consequences you foresee?

I think what’s missing from the coverage in the middle of all of the chaos that Trump produces, and the daily drama that emanates from this White House, is the degree to which Trump has been an extremely consequential president. There is an argument to be made that he is the most consequential president since FDR, because he is systematically unraveling, at an extremely fast pace, the U.S.-led global order that was architected by FDR, built by Harry Truman, and maintained from Eisenhower through Obama. And everywhere around the world, all of the countries and all of the groups that we don’t want to see winning on the field of geopolitics — Iran, Hezbollah, ISIS, Al Qaeda, Russia, Turkey — are advancing while American interests are retreating.

He has completely remade the American presidency through his debasements of its traditions. He has pitted the country against each other in a cold civil war and he is the first president purposefully who, with each and every utterance, he seeks to incite and divide as opposed to unifying around core principles. He is attacking and degrading our institutions and the concepts of the rule of law that are necessary for the maintenance of the constitutional republic from within. He is utterly infidelitous to his oath to preserve, protect, and strengthen the Constitution of the United States. That makes him, not a clown and a joke, but a dangerous and profoundly consequential figure. I caveat “consequential” by saying it’s not a celebratory statement — it’s one of alarm.

There are people out there who make the argument that his presidency, so far, is also proof that the framework or system is working. Whether it’s his attempt to roll back health care or even backing down from the G7 at Doral, but from your perspective his presidency is proof it’s cracking.



http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/10/steve-schmidt-on-trump-impeachment-2020-and-howard-schultz.html

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'The Force of Trump's Lying Has Ruptured the Space-Time Continuum': Steve Schmidt on Impeachment (Original Post) orangecrush Nov 2019 OP
I welcome Steve Schmidt back... targetpractice Nov 2019 #1
I do too. He's a conservative voice that I can respect. Glad Howard Schultz is now in the past. hlthe2b Nov 2019 #4
Glad to have Steve back on the air. He's scary, but worth listening to. nt Hekate Nov 2019 #2
The only rupture of the space-time continuum is pretending it started with Trump JHB Nov 2019 #3
You don't have to give over all your trust to a conservative, but we'd be foolish to discount their hlthe2b Nov 2019 #5
and they can reach people who wouldn't listen to us Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #10
Couldn't agree more Jarqui Nov 2019 #6
Smart comments. Pepsidog Nov 2019 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #8
Thanks, I fixed it. orangecrush Nov 2019 #9
Good thread and comments. ooky Nov 2019 #11
Thanks! orangecrush Nov 2019 #14
thank fucking god for the return of steve schmidt. mopinko Nov 2019 #12
Book marking. n/t Whiskeytide Nov 2019 #13
Thank you! orangecrush Nov 2019 #15
Good read! kentuck Nov 2019 #16
Very welcome. orangecrush Nov 2019 #18
Another K&R! crickets Nov 2019 #17
.... orangecrush Nov 2019 #19

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
1. I welcome Steve Schmidt back...
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:45 PM
Nov 2019

... He has a way with words.

And, I truly enjoy it when he's on MSNBC with Nicole Wallace... The two of them are highly entertaining together, and super smart.

JHB

(37,159 posts)
3. The only rupture of the space-time continuum is pretending it started with Trump
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 08:59 PM
Nov 2019

Steve Schmidt spent his career fostering everything he now decries as Trump's doing.

Trump's drag racing on the road that Schmidt and most of his fellow NeverTrumpers built, Steve. And they built it because they thought they'd be the ones using that road as they saw fit.

Steve, please just go fishing or something and go away.

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
5. You don't have to give over all your trust to a conservative, but we'd be foolish to discount their
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:22 PM
Nov 2019

voices or to refuse their help in getting rid of Trump and his ilk. Allies don't agree on everything, yet we are about to find (given Trump) what it is like not to have any on the international stage. We needn't do so on the domestic political stage.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
6. Couldn't agree more
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:21 PM
Nov 2019

Trump exists at the whim of the GOP.
They can end him tomorrow.
They could have ended him before he got started.

The erosion of the morality of the GOP where they put party ahead of the country to retain power started long before 2015-6.

Trump is superficial fool's gold. A reality-tv distraction of idiocy to take your eyes off what has really been happening behind the scenes.

Steve Schmidt either is not smart enough to see it or honest enough to admit it claiming Trump is the most consequential President since FDR. Trump is only consequential as the puppet for those pulling the real strings behind the scenes.

Getting rid of Trump does not rid the country of the problem.
And I'm not sure the media is innocent enough and able to effectively address it.

Electing a Democrat President helps to curtail the problem but as Obama found out, doesn't solve it.

I do not go along with Schmidt on this for a second.

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mopinko

(70,090 posts)
12. thank fucking god for the return of steve schmidt.
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 01:02 AM
Nov 2019

and the return of nicole wallace and steve schmidt.

we may survive.

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