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Last week, Schmidt returned to MSNBC after an eight-month hiatus, which included a stint as an advisor to Howard Schultzs brief and inglorious flirtation with a third-party run. Intelligencer caught up with Schmidt on the phone this week and asked him about impeachment, the Schultz debacle, and the Democratic fiel
A few days ago you said that weve entered the consequences stage of the presidency. What are the consequences you foresee?
I think whats missing from the coverage in the middle of all of the chaos that Trump produces, and the daily drama that emanates from this White House, is the degree to which Trump has been an extremely consequential president. There is an argument to be made that he is the most consequential president since FDR, because he is systematically unraveling, at an extremely fast pace, the U.S.-led global order that was architected by FDR, built by Harry Truman, and maintained from Eisenhower through Obama. And everywhere around the world, all of the countries and all of the groups that we dont want to see winning on the field of geopolitics Iran, Hezbollah, ISIS, Al Qaeda, Russia, Turkey are advancing while American interests are retreating.
He has completely remade the American presidency through his debasements of its traditions. He has pitted the country against each other in a cold civil war and he is the first president purposefully who, with each and every utterance, he seeks to incite and divide as opposed to unifying around core principles. He is attacking and degrading our institutions and the concepts of the rule of law that are necessary for the maintenance of the constitutional republic from within. He is utterly infidelitous to his oath to preserve, protect, and strengthen the Constitution of the United States. That makes him, not a clown and a joke, but a dangerous and profoundly consequential figure. I caveat consequential by saying its not a celebratory statement its one of alarm.
There are people out there who make the argument that his presidency, so far, is also proof that the framework or system is working. Whether its his attempt to roll back health care or even backing down from the G7 at Doral, but from your perspective his presidency is proof its cracking.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/10/steve-schmidt-on-trump-impeachment-2020-and-howard-schultz.html
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targetpractice
(4,919 posts)... He has a way with words.
And, I truly enjoy it when he's on MSNBC with Nicole Wallace... The two of them are highly entertaining together, and super smart.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)Hekate
(90,667 posts)JHB
(37,159 posts)Steve Schmidt spent his career fostering everything he now decries as Trump's doing.
Trump's drag racing on the road that Schmidt and most of his fellow NeverTrumpers built, Steve. And they built it because they thought they'd be the ones using that road as they saw fit.
Steve, please just go fishing or something and go away.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)voices or to refuse their help in getting rid of Trump and his ilk. Allies don't agree on everything, yet we are about to find (given Trump) what it is like not to have any on the international stage. We needn't do so on the domestic political stage.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,332 posts)Jarqui
(10,123 posts)Trump exists at the whim of the GOP.
They can end him tomorrow.
They could have ended him before he got started.
The erosion of the morality of the GOP where they put party ahead of the country to retain power started long before 2015-6.
Trump is superficial fool's gold. A reality-tv distraction of idiocy to take your eyes off what has really been happening behind the scenes.
Steve Schmidt either is not smart enough to see it or honest enough to admit it claiming Trump is the most consequential President since FDR. Trump is only consequential as the puppet for those pulling the real strings behind the scenes.
Getting rid of Trump does not rid the country of the problem.
And I'm not sure the media is innocent enough and able to effectively address it.
Electing a Democrat President helps to curtail the problem but as Obama found out, doesn't solve it.
I do not go along with Schmidt on this for a second.
Pepsidog
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orangecrush
(19,546 posts)ooky
(8,922 posts)K&R
mopinko
(70,090 posts)and the return of nicole wallace and steve schmidt.
we may survive.
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)orangecrush
(19,546 posts)kentuck
(111,089 posts)Thanks!