Breaking News! Trump loses New York Tax Case on Appeal

[OliverQ]

He's likely to appeal it to the Supreme Court.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/04/trump-loses-appeal-of-new-york-tax-returns-case.html

[Roland99]

1. W00t!

[vsrazdem]

2. Where is this info from?

[MoonRiver]

4. Link is from cnbc. nt

[OliverQ]

5. CNBC just reported it.

The Second Circuit Court of Appeals in NYC rejected his lawyers' argument that he's immune from the judicial process.

[vsrazdem]

3. Got it, thanks.

[pandr32]

6. Yaaaaaaaas!

[greatauntoftriplets]

7. CNN is reporting this too.

[UTUSN]

8. Surely the SCotUS won't go out on a limb & saw it off behind?

[crazytown]

13. Clinton v. Jones, 520 U.S. 681 (1997)

SCOTUS unanimous,

[UTUSN]

16. That's what I mean, even with the current wingnuts on the court it would be so blatant

to go out on the limb, but the way things are now...

[Kablooie]

32. The conservatives will probably back him on anything

I believe they’ve all been brought into his cult.

Roberts might dissent though

[malaise]

9. Hence the move to Florida

He knew this was coming

[triron]

11. Good point.

Not a coincidence in timing.

[Arazi]

14. Why do you think his move to FL is tied to his tax return release?

Just because he's moved doesn't shield him from NY prosecution

[shanti]

19. He gets to keep Merde Lago

by moving to Florida.

[Arazi]

26. That has to do with bankruptcy, not his tax returns

[Polybius]

22. Would Florida extradite him to NY?

Depending on the charge, they either do or don't.

[Arazi]

27. He would be arrested in FL, otherwise he'd be the most famous fugitive in the world

[CatWoman]

10. K; R

[Sugar Smack]

12. BREAKING: He's trying right now!

[randr]

15. As long as we are paying for it he will continue to evade

[Takket]

17. I wonder if anyone is keeping track of the taxpayer bill to defend his stupid ass

[SWBTATTReg]

18. Perhaps the rest of the states where rump files taxes too in, should start doing the same...

as NY, start requesting copies of his tax papers, tax returns, etc. to investigate, being that there seems to be discrepancies in the returns vs. other facts that have been revealed. I would. He's probably cheated on his taxes massively everywhere.

[louseb]

20. SCCJ Roberts is certainly not going to buy Donnie's argument.

and probably neither any of his appointees.

[bitterross]

21. The smart thing would be for SCOTUS to not review.

Doubt they'll let this just stand though. Kavanaugh and Gorsuch should recuse themselves, but they won't.

Let's hope Roberts doesn't want to live with turning the President into a monarch as part of his legacy.

[Polybius]

23. Nixon's appointees didn't recuse themselves

But they did the right thing.

[bitterross]

34. Were Nixon's appointees such blatant political hacks?

I can't say I know about Nixon's appointees. I was only in 6th grade at the time and it wasn't important to me.

I suspect he appointed qualified people who may have had some inherent biases. I doubt they were such obvious political stacking of the court that Trumps appointees are. Maybe I'm wrong though.

[itcfish]

24. They Will Appeal

to the US Supreme Court and that court will rule in Chump's favor.

[meow2u3]

25. I don't think SCOTUS will take the case, and here's why

Guess which SCOTUS Justice is assigned to the 2nd Circuit--none other than the Notorious RBG! She's not likely to take a case that doesn't have merit.

[ritapria]

28. Can Trump's lawyers go to the full court to get the case heard ?

[OliverQ]

30. The full Supreme Court?

It requires 4 justices to hear a case. I'm not exactly sure how this works though. Since RBG controls the 2nd Circuit that this case is based in, I'm not sure if 4 other Justices can overrule her and demand it be heard, or if they can only agree to it if she allows the full court to decide if they want to hear it.

[StarfishSaver]

35. RBG doesn't decide whether to take the case. Her role as Circuit Justice is unconnected to appeals

[Rorey]

29. We really need to start running some "What is he afraid of" ads

If he's innocent of any wrongdoing, why is he fighting so hard to keep them out of view?

[Lock him up.]

31. Because he's guilty of everything. n/t

[Jarqui]

33. I read a bunch of the Manafort criminal court cases

A number were based on his tax returns and banking/financial info

Even the ardent Trumpsters on the jury couldn't find any way to ignore some of the cases because they were so clear cut.

Having watched what happened with Manafort and knowing one is guilty of similar stuff would be pretty terrifying. And they can get him on a state level for a bunch of that stuff - he can't pardon his way out of it.

Further, if he's hoping his re-election will buy him another four years and toll out the statute of limitations, he will lose some support when folks find out he isn't worth nearly as much dough as he claimed he was. Maybe he's effectively bankrupt except for income from the Russian oligarchs ... which will further implcate how the President of the US is effectively owned by Russians.

If stuff like that comes out, his house of political cards implodes.