Supreme Court Lawyer (Neal Katyal) Says Trump Will Be Impeached, Won't Even Be on 2020 Ballot

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Supreme Court Lawyer Says Trump Will Be Impeached, Won't Even Be on 2020 Ballot
By James Crowley On 11/5/19 at 10:16 AM EST


Thought leaders from the CEO of Wikipedia to Edward Snowden gathered in Lisbon, Portugal on Monday for the 2019 Web Summit, an annual tech conference that brings together experts from a variety of fields to discuss emerging innovations and current events. On Day 2 of the summit Tuesday, three of the assembled great minds debated the prospect of regime change in the United States, with former Acting Solicitor General of the United States Neal Katyal telling the audience, "I don't think Trump will be on the ballot next year, I think he will be impeached."

The lawyer's "strong words" received "huge applause" from the audience, summit attendee and DW News journalist Jordan Wildon noted in a tweet.

Katyal was speaking on a panel with Joe Pounder, CEO of Bullpen Strategy Group; Brittany Kaiser, co-founder of Own Your Data Foundation and Tim Alberta, the chief political correspondent for Politico. The panel, titled "One year out: Will Trump be re-elected?" was part of the summit's "Centre Stage" programming. Exactly one year ahead of the 2020 presidential election, panel members spoke on data, trends, and gut reactions to predict what is "dubbed by many as the election which will define a generation."

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[malaise]

1. I agree

and I hope we're right

Get thee to the greatest page

[NewJeffCT]

4. I think impeachment is almost a guarantee

however, conviction and removal is another story that is still playing out

[malaise]

6. The thing is the Con is terrified of being impeached

so he may well resign.

[renate]

9. I think he might, except that the instant he isn't president any more, SDNY owns his ass

And right now, although the evidence is piling up against him to such an extent that even some Senate Republicans might grow a spine, for the moment he's safe from removal, even if he's guaranteed to be impeached.

I wouldn't be surprised if he defected. Go to Turkey or Saudi Arabia or a friendly place like that on Air Force One and never get back on.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

17. So he'd be flying on Air Force One Way Ticket out of the country.

[lagomorph777]

23. Hell, he can keep the big shiny plane.

Just get him the fuck out of my country.

[Qutzupalotl]

39. I see what you did there.

[not_the_one]

44. We CAN'T allow another country to gain access to all the advanced equipment on Air Force One

We MUST shoot it down.

[mopinko]

47. he can take his own fucking plane.

[japple]

36. He's a real nowhere man. If he tried to defect, no one would take him because he would

no longer be useful to anyone. Not Russia, not SA, not Turkey. He is only useful as long as he is POTUS. He is well and truly fucked.


ETA: to correct the lyrics!

[tableturner]

37. He would be a great propaganda coup for Russia....plus he knows our secrets.

[japple]

40. He can't keep a thought in his head for 2 seconds. Do you think he could keep a secret?

I agree that he could be a great propaganda tool for Russia, but who would believe anything from a brain dead tRUMP?

[lastlib]

13. I can't see him ever resigning.

A) New York would be on him like grape juice on an Easter dress if he did; B) He enjoys the power and perks of the presidency; it "confirms" his perceived "greatness", And it gives him leverage over his enemies. It also gives him financial leverage for his business. He has little to no hesitation in violating any ethical constraints on that.

[Butterflylady]

31. Does he even know what impeachment means?

I seriously doubt it.

[malaise]

33. Clearly he doesn't

He said impeachment threatens democracy - something written into the Constitution threatens democracy.
Bangs head.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

45. Yeah, but to be fair, he has no idea

what's in the Constitution either.

(He only knows 2A cuz the NRA told him.)

[malaise]

46. True

Never have I seen such ignorance on parade at the highest level

[Miguelito Loveless]

2. One can hope

[NewJeffCT]

3. Neal is a lot smarter than me

so, I'm hoping he's correct.

I think he'd be a great nominee for a Democratic president for SCOTUS - only 49 years old now

[Loge23]

5. Wishful thinking

I like Neal and find his commentary on point most of the time, but this is strictly wishful thinking.
There is no evidence at this point that the #IPOTUS will be impeached in the Senate. Further, we really have to wonder what it would take for the Senate to turn since the Fifth Avenue scenario, coddling to Putin, overt racism, and a clear quid pro quo case re: Ukraine is apparently not doing the trick.
I'm skeptical that even the election will evict this disgrace from the White House.
I do remain hopeful, but I really don't see a clear path to impeachment/removal.
Hope I'm wrong.

[aggiesal]

18. The House Impeach, ...

the Senate Convicts.

Treat it as the House acts like a GRAND JURY and indicts (Articles of Impeachment) if it find enough evidence.
The Senate acts like the court where the Impeached is Tried.

[Javaman]

30. lots of deals will need to be cut for the repukes that are needed to convict.

the turtle will do his best to be "defiant" against the "witch hunt".

that will probably be the most interesting part of this whole thing to watch. Seeing just how the senate will convict.

[still_one]

7. Impeached yes, removed no. Can he name 20 Senate Republicans who will do it?

[RKP5637]

8. I doubt it unless a few jump ship ... then the rest might follow like a pack of rats! n/t

[Butterflylady]

32. And rats they are, especially the head rat, McConnell.

[ramen]

21. Not yet..

One can only hope. I do think they will drop 45 like a hot bag of dogshit if (and only if) the court of public opinion swings hard enough. Not there yet, but we've only just begun..

[Hermit-The-Prog]

42. if 20 stay home from embarassment or sudden 'flu ...

It takes 2/3 of those present to convict. If 20 Rs stay home that day because of a fear of drowning (I've read that rats fear drowning so much they will abandon ship before anyone else), that leaves 32 Rs, 45 Ds, 3 Is (counting Amash as I now). With 80 present, it takes 54 to convict. If all Ds and Is vote to convict, it only takes 6 Rs to go along.

[BigmanPigman]

10. Impeach and REMOVE tRump a d Pence!

I aim high.

[The Blue Flower]

11. If today's election goes our way, the Rs will be happy to dump drumpf

Today is a referendum on dumdum. They'll be happy to throw him under the bus and then back it over him if the outcome is anything like last time.

[lagomorph777]

24. I'm excited to vote today.

[yaesu]

12. I would be willing to bet the farm that he is wrong, wish he wasn't but ain't gonna happen. nt

[not fooled]

14. Yeah

red don is priming the MAGAts to consider it a badge of honor to vote for an impeached president.

And we all know those deluded cultists will follow their idol off this particular cliff (while he plots to steal their Social Security and Medicare during his second term).

[aggiesal]

19. You still have a farm? ...

I would have thought that Pendejo45 had forced you to sell it by now!

[brooklynite]

15. So does Scaramucci...

...I won't hold my breath.

[Jarqui]

16. He's getting impeached but probably not getting removed by the GOP Senate

The reason Trump pulled the stunt he did in the Ukraine is that he realized that he was unlikely to beat Biden otherwise. Getting caught appears to be having the reverse effect - he seems to be falling further behind Biden and the others.

The power brokers of the GOP will make the call on whether Trump is removed from office by the Senate. They control that decision - not Trump.

1. Do you think the power brokers of the GOP disagree about Trump's position with Biden?
2. Or do you think the power brokers of the GOP are more into loyalty to Trump than they are into hanging on to the power of the Oval Office? Trump before party?
3. Or do you think the power brokers of the GOP have concluded that out of all the possible candidates for the GOP, Trump gives the GOP the best chance to win in 2020?

Based on what we know and upon years of performance, I think those are all basically rhetorical questions because we already know the answers to them.

How Trump goes is a mystery. Resign? Bogus health excuse? Whatever. He's handy as a pinata for Dems to spend their time, money and energy on before they pull their switcheroo that minimizes the time to scrutinize their shiny "new" candidate.

[tman]

20. Trump will be on the ballot.

Still have faith in the senate GOP?


It's time to wake up.

[LiberalLovinLug]

22. Trump will never resign

In fact, he'll only go kicking and screaming. Even IF the Senate does the right thing. Because it makes great Reality TV. Maximum sympathy generation for his cult. And it will help back up his CT that it was some kind of coup.

All so he is set up in a good position to start his own media empire when he leaves. He may not even have to put up any of his own money for it. Like his buildings, he gets paid for agreeing they can stamp his name on the front, to increase its value and popularity. (which may not work so well in the future). But would work great for a deplorable run conspiracy theory network.

[Grasswire2]

41. Not if he is rendered penniless and powerless.

Assets seized, restricted from doing business and public life.

Your scenario is a strong argument for the Rosenberg remedy for treasonous acts. He would do anything for vengeance if left with any assets and power.

[ffr]

25. We need a regime change badly.

This cabal of swamp dwellers needs TO GO!

[progressoid]

26. Senate won't convict and Trump will say he's vindicated.

[Hekate]

27. From his lips to The Lady's ears, please

[Garrett78]

28. Impeachment is a given. Conviction or resignation still seems highly unlikely.

[ancianita]

29. Katyal assumes that global tech, etc., think that impeached people are removed. That didn't happen

with Clinton and it won't happen with Trump.

Trump will have to remove himself. Which we know is unlikely.

Unless these global folks know something Americans don't about American politics and global cyber powers, Katyal and the rest look as if they're fooling themselves.

Portugal is far from the USA as they speak of "data, trends and gut reactions and ... defining a generation." Given the on-the-ground fight the Republicans and their owners are waging over here, this comes across as some rah rah cheerleading at best, happy horseshit at worst.

[Scalded Nun]

34. Have the cuffs ready

As soon as the word 'God' is uttered at the end of the swearing in ceremony slap them on his tiny little hands and march him off to jail.

[safeinOhio]

35. Hey Baby, hold on to your hat because

we ain’t seen nuttin yet. Every week and every day it gets worse. Between now and Nov 2020 a lot can and will happen.

[DeminPennswoods]

38. From Neal's lips to

God's ear...

[Blue Owl]

43. So be it!!!

n/t

[mopinko]

48. the earth moved under this rube goldberg of graft and violence last night, and

every rethuglican senator now knows they are in their last term.

justice is coming, whether it is like water on a stone, or rolls down like thunder, it is accelerating. greatly.

[hughee99]

49. Did I miss Dems taking control of the Senate yesterday? Nt