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MineralMan

(146,290 posts)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:02 PM Nov 2019

So, the Right Wing apparently thinks it knows who the whistleblower is.

Several people, including Trump and Rand Paul have called for the media to print that person's name. So, why haven't those who "know" the name said it? Why don't the Right-Wing media publish that name? Why are they calling for the rest of the media to publish it?

If they know who the whistleblower is, they can simply tell us, right? But, no, they want us to say it. Hmm...

Speak up, you proud boys. You're the ones who want it publicized, so you can be the ones to tell us who it is, OK?

We'll wait right here, OK?

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So, the Right Wing apparently thinks it knows who the whistleblower is. (Original Post) MineralMan Nov 2019 OP
Outing him is illegal. They don't want to take the blame for it. nt tblue37 Nov 2019 #1
Aha! Just as I thought. MineralMan Nov 2019 #2
Since it's illegal... C_U_L8R Nov 2019 #6
One would think. Delphinus Nov 2019 #22
I thought Rush L. already knew the WB's name too. What it is with these guys? Trying to ... SWBTATTReg Nov 2019 #3
They are cowards... Mike Nelson Nov 2019 #4
I've seen the name you're talking about. MineralMan Nov 2019 #5
Rand, Donald and the Republicans... Mike Nelson Nov 2019 #10
Yes. It's a diversion, plain and simple. MineralMan Nov 2019 #13
Perhaps Republicans don't know what the Hell they're talking about?! PJMcK Nov 2019 #15
None of this makes sense...since when do you punish a witness for reporting a crime? unitedwethrive Nov 2019 #7
Exactly. It doesn't make sense. MineralMan Nov 2019 #9
But didn't you read Paul's tweet? ScratchCat Nov 2019 #11
It makes no difference. The WB could have been Hillary herself, and we would still have all the unitedwethrive Nov 2019 #14
That's the plan, I guess ScratchCat Nov 2019 #16
None of them want to blamed if it engenders a violent reaction Cirque du So-What Nov 2019 #8
The essential contradiction is obvious, isn't it? MineralMan Nov 2019 #12
It's another distraction. crickets Nov 2019 #17
The thing is that the right-wing knows that most people have no idea MineralMan Nov 2019 #18
You're right, and they like it that way. They exploit it at every turn. crickets Nov 2019 #23
No facts or law on their side so they are pounding the table. yellowcanine Nov 2019 #19
Yup. I'm waiting for Trump to take his shoe off and pound the podium MineralMan Nov 2019 #20
Here, I'll publish it. It is rusty fender Nov 2019 #21
It's illegal to out a whistleblower. I'm sure their cadre of lawyers have explained that... spanone Nov 2019 #24

SWBTATTReg

(22,117 posts)
3. I thought Rush L. already knew the WB's name too. What it is with these guys? Trying to ...
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:05 PM
Nov 2019

up their viewership numbers and goose their ratings I guess...

Mike Nelson

(9,954 posts)
4. They are cowards...
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:05 PM
Nov 2019

... I have seen the Whistle-blower's name and photo on Twitter and Facebook... the posts are removed quickly. I don't recognize the name - not a familiar one, to me. This may be the name Rand Paul and others have... it may not be accurate.

MineralMan

(146,290 posts)
5. I've seen the name you're talking about.
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:07 PM
Nov 2019

I've also seen denials that the name is that of the whistleblower. Perhaps they're wrong about that, eh? Perhaps they don't know what the Hell they're talking about. Do you suppose?

Mike Nelson

(9,954 posts)
10. Rand, Donald and the Republicans...
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:15 PM
Nov 2019

... want the name said for confirmation, I'm guessing... and, if the name is not correct, they can scream "fake media!" I don't think they know, for sure... if they said the name, it could be wrong - or illegal. In the end, it's a deflection... the whistle-lower is, irrelevant, now. I guess deplorables don't see the illogical... Rand, Rush et al are playing politics.

MineralMan

(146,290 posts)
13. Yes. It's a diversion, plain and simple.
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:19 PM
Nov 2019

That's all they have left, really - diversions. The truth will not set them free. Rather, it will make their fates unpleasant in the extreme. So, they're trying to pull a sleight of hand move to fool the audience while they try to make the impossible magic trick work.

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
7. None of this makes sense...since when do you punish a witness for reporting a crime?
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:10 PM
Nov 2019

There is really no conceivable way that the repubs are innocent.

MineralMan

(146,290 posts)
9. Exactly. It doesn't make sense.
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:12 PM
Nov 2019

Whistleblowers' names are kept a secret, to avoid retribution by the wrong-doers. There's a law protecting them. So, Trump and the rest of his merry band won't say who they think it is, because that would be illegal. But, then, they call for others to divulge the name. The irony is thick.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
11. But didn't you read Paul's tweet?
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:16 PM
Nov 2019

Rand says he "worked for Joe Biden" when Hunter was "taking money from corrupt oligarchs". Don't you see? Its all a scam!! The WB is just a "Democrat operative", some person who worked for the very same person Trump is trying to bring to justice for his corruption!! Its all a deep state conspiracy!!

(for the record, if the WB previously worked for Joe Biden, I will throw my hands in the air and shake my head at Adam Schiff)

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
14. It makes no difference. The WB could have been Hillary herself, and we would still have all the
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:23 PM
Nov 2019

firsthand testimony from those who were directly involved the the extortion. Are their people just stupid? Do they think that if a witness to a bank robbery - who then called police - has a criminal record themselves, that the bank robbery didn't happen?

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
16. That's the plan, I guess
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:25 PM
Nov 2019

Just keep throwing out more and more nonsense to confuse the stupid. Its their MO - "fake news, I'm the victim!!"

Cirque du So-What

(25,938 posts)
8. None of them want to blamed if it engenders a violent reaction
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:12 PM
Nov 2019

The 'revealer' would be remembered in perpetuity as having the whistleblower's blood on his/her hands.

MineralMan

(146,290 posts)
12. The essential contradiction is obvious, isn't it?
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:17 PM
Nov 2019

Clearly, the identity will become public at some point, I have no doubt. If I were the whistleblower, I believe I'd make preparations in advance to protect myself, and then go public in the media in a massive way, spilling all the beans I had available. Then, I'd make myself impossible to find. In fact, I would be nowhere anyone would ever look for me.

Since it's unlikely that the name will remain unknown, better to get a jump on all of it and blow the entire whistle until it stops whistling, and then beat a retreat until it appears to be safe to return.

crickets

(25,976 posts)
17. It's another distraction.
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:36 PM
Nov 2019

As others have pointed out, Republicans and RW pundits know not to out the whistleblower themselves because it's illegal. They know the press won't do it for the same reason. It's just something to make a lot of noise about to distract from the impeachment goings-on, especially as the damning testimony transcripts are released.

It's the same reason they're screeching about legal representation at the closed sessions. They know all of the people testifying have their own counsel present and are represented just fine. They also know that Trump has no reason or right to have representation there during this phase. It's in the rules, there's nothing unfair going on, but they can make a lot of noise all the same.

No way to refute the findings so far, no way to stop the oncoming impeachment train, so blather on about the process. It's all they've got.

MineralMan

(146,290 posts)
18. The thing is that the right-wing knows that most people have no idea
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:40 PM
Nov 2019

what the laws are, what the Constitution says, or much of anything else having to do with this impeachment business. They know that to be an absolute fact, so they can say anything they want and their followers will eat it up like ice cream.

The bulk of Trump's base is ignorant of almost everything. They're unschooled, uncaring, and unconcerned about either thing. So, they're an ideal audience for propaganda and plausible-sounding lies.

That makes diversions like this far too easy to pull off, at least with the base of ignorant people they count on.

crickets

(25,976 posts)
23. You're right, and they like it that way. They exploit it at every turn.
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:51 PM
Nov 2019

Edit to add: The thing that irritates me is that the press knows all of this too, and often repeats RW complaints unexplained and unadorned, not bothering to point out when the Republicans are being unreasonable. That really bothers me. Part of the responsibility of journalism is to point out these details, and often this does not happen when it should. This makes journalists mouthpieces for propaganda rather than disseminators of useful information.

spanone

(135,831 posts)
24. It's illegal to out a whistleblower. I'm sure their cadre of lawyers have explained that...
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 03:53 PM
Nov 2019

taunting the media is so American....

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