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Johnny2X2X

(19,253 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:30 PM Nov 2019

BREAKING: Trump tried to get Ukraine to investigate Hillary Clinton too




<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">House intel releases deposition of George Kent:<br><br>“[Amb.] Gordon [Sondland], had talked to the President, POTUS in sort of shorthand, and POTUS wanted nothing less than President Zelensky to go to microphone and say investigations, Biden, and Clinton.”<br><br>That is the extortion.</p>— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) <a href="
?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Because of course the vindictive monster did. Butter emails!!!
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BREAKING: Trump tried to get Ukraine to investigate Hillary Clinton too (Original Post) Johnny2X2X Nov 2019 OP
Correct link? Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2019 #1
Changed it Johnny2X2X Nov 2019 #3
Gotcha. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2019 #4
Thanks for this summary!! nt blaze Nov 2019 #6
So... Pay a fine, that's the consequence? intrepidity Nov 2019 #2
rump is desperately trying to rig the game in time for the 2020 elections and still trying to ... SWBTATTReg Nov 2019 #5
Trump probably extorted to get election interference in 2016. triron Nov 2019 #7
Who is surprised by this? Gothmog Nov 2019 #8
i'm shocked that there are no death squads under Walmart Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #9

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,226 posts)
4. Gotcha.
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:48 PM
Nov 2019

Probably what they wanted to get at was claiming that Clinton somehow directed Alexandra Chalupa--a Ukrainian-American who had done some DNC contracting work in the past--to get incriminating documents from the Ukrainian government on Paul Manafort being paid millions under the table in (stolen) cash by Ukrainian's deposed former autocratic leader, Viktor Yanukovych.

A couple problems with that argument.

1. There's no evidence whatsoever that either the Clinton campaign or the DNC directed Chalupa to get the documents; she travelled to Ukraine on her own accord and the fact that she offered to share the documents with the DNC (and the media) after the fact is wholly irrelevant.

2. Unlike the hacked emails the Trump campaign was benefitting from vis-à-vis the Russians and Wikileaks, the documents provided by the Ukrainians to Chalupa were not illegally obtained. (They had in fact been left behind by Yanukovych after he fled the country for Russia.)

3. The documents Chalupa did get were authentic (Manafort's own accountant confirmed this) and incredibly incriminating against the former Trump campaign manager, and helped lead to Manafort's conviction on tax evasion charges.

So I still have to know how these idiots think bringing this up would help them in any sort of way. It only brings further attention to Manafort's dirty deeds.

SWBTATTReg

(22,191 posts)
5. rump is desperately trying to rig the game in time for the 2020 elections and still trying to ...
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:53 PM
Nov 2019

clear his role in the fraud and interference in the 2016 election. Getting more and more of a stink and making him look more and more like a f**king coward, that knows he can't win w/o a stacked deck. Scumbag.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,543 posts)
9. i'm shocked that there are no death squads under Walmart
Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:49 PM
Nov 2019

I'm also shocked there was no basement under the pizzeria.

Next up: TrumPutin tried to extort Ukraine to produce Obama's real birth certificate.


I hereby volunteer to help construct the dungeon in which to put these mobsters.

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