A warning about Nikki Haley

[SCantiGOP]

There are several threads currently about Haley, with excerpts from her recent book. As a SC activist who watched her career for years, you better be very concerned about her.
If you think Trump is bad, think of an attractive Trump with impulse control and political savvy. She is just as far right as the Trumpers but can mask it and present it as a legitimate political stance. Being of Indian heritage, she gets a pass on the racist label while still dog-whistling the rednecks and Nazis.
I saw her do it in SC and she has plans to do it in the national stage.

[SKKY]

1. Absolutely! She is the only person to leave the Trump admin...

....with her reputation in tact, which shows her political savvy.

[BKDem]

76. She just blew that with everybody but the brain dead

Fuck her, and fuck her book.

[StClone]

80. Zombie legions will vote for a pretty Hitler

My winger brother is all about women in Gov. as long as they are attractive, they can be black inside. My experience seems to be Cons will vote for a freak like Nikki and exclaim, "look we love minorities and women." Beware!

[lagomorph777]

86. Making it clear she's a Trumpie through and through.

She obviously believes the Russiapublicans will continue to dominate.

[joost5]

90. "Russiapublicans"

Using that....

[czarjak]

81. Her reputation speaks for itself...

She took a job with the illegitimate Mofo.

[StarfishSaver]

2. Thank you!

[H2O Man]

3. Recommended.

Well said. I agree 100%.

[dalton99a]

4. No one should ever underestimate Haley's ambitions.

[GoCubsGo]

5. Yep. I saw it, too.

She's as phony as a three dollar bill. Her career has been one big, giant snow job. This is the same sack of shit who did nothing about the Confederate loser flag flying on the Statehouse grounds throughout her first term, and only removed it after a bunch of people were massacred in their church over it. She's full of shit.

[SCantiGOP]

13. And the polls went from mid-40s to low 60s

On the number of people who wanted to take the flag down. Not even close to an example of political courage.

[negromiconomics]

22. But she played that most cleverly

...she still didn't have to remove it. But doing that along with allying with Tim Scott means that she could reliably make a strong showing in South Carolina during the primary and can take credit for the only black Senator currently serving. She is a very formidable candidate coming out of this mess. Remember that Trump wouldn't be President unless that 55% of white women went with him. If that number is no longer possible for Trump it would certainly be available to Haley in many matchups against the wrong Dems.

[58Sunliner]

83. 55% of white women didn't vote for DT.

@58% of eligible voters voted. Accounting for demographics, the math says that @32% of white women voted for DT. If those numbers are not fraudulent in any way. Only 26.5% of all eligible voters voted for DT. And most of those were male.

[ProfessorGAC]

88. Confused By Something Here

Assuming your premise #s are correct (and they seem correct), you've got "it" getting 32% of white women.
You say 55% didn't vote for "it" so wouldn't 45% that did out of the 58%, be a little over 26%?

[58Sunliner]

94. I tried to find any figures and was generous. I based it on total percentage of Caucasian women.

I agree I erred on the plus rather than the minus.There is no database, unfortunately, that gives accurate numbers of voting data based on race/sex. Most data is culled from exit polling data. It looks odd to see that the actual female vote for DT was @12-15% of the total percentage of eligible voters. Actually, more white women voted for Hillary.

[hlthe2b]

6. I agree with you...

Putting a "pretty" or at least "sane" face to racism, fascism, authoritarianism is even more dangerous than with Trump... If he could bamboozle 35-40% of the voting populace, how susceptible would they be to her?

[appalachiablue]

38. Extreme right & ambitious with Asian & female factors

'Washington Post: Nikki Haley says top Trump aides tried to recruit her to undermine President.' CNN, Nov. 10, 2019.

Washington (CNN) — Former United Nations ambassador Nikki Haley divulged in her forthcoming memoir that former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and former White House chief of staff John Kelly attempted to recruit her to undermine President Donald Trump in an effort to "save the country," according to The Washington Post.

The two former Cabinet members sought Haley's help in their endeavors to subvert the President but she refused, Haley wrote. The Washington Post obtained a copy of her book, titled "With All Due Respect," ahead of its Tuesday release. CNN has not seen a copy of the memoir.

"Kelly and Tillerson confided in me that when they resisted the President, they weren't being insubordinate, they were trying to save the country," Haley wrote.

At one point, Haley wrote that Tillerson also told her people would die if Trump was unchecked. However, Haley said she supported most of Trump's foreign policy decisions that others in the White House tried to block or slow down, according to the Post...https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/10/politics/nikki-haley-tillerson-kelly-save-the-country-recruit-white-house/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Haley

[Hoyt]

7. Agree. There is a risk GOPers will recognize trump is a loser in 2020, and go to someone like her.

[DFW]

8. Haley is just Trump's poison in a more appealing package.

Sugar-coated cyanide will kill you as dead as cyanide without the sugar-coating. It just takes a half second longer.

[UniteFightBack]

9. Oh that most recent tv interview she has firmly planted her tattered and soiled flag in dumpistan.

Defended the dump to the hilt. She can just get the fuck right outta here.

[LenaBaby61]

45. Defended the dump to the hilt. She can just get the fuck right outta here.

Have relatives/friends who've lived in South Carolina for years, and she never had me fooled one bit.Neither did butt-kissing, having blackmail on himself Lindsay Graham. BOTH are snakes.

Haley's never been anything BUT a 3rd rate politician, and I hope folks SEE how she's defending/trying to legitimize big, fat, orange ruskie asset tRump. Hope she doesn't have Dems fooled into 'thinking' that she can be trusted. SHE CAN'T BE. She's no better than the rest of the tReasonous thuglican tRump protectors/defenders.

[UniteFightBack]

48. Any question of her trust has been extinguished .....forever. And look at her coming forward to

defend her commander in cheat just in time for her book release. Just another opportunist...if she REALLY CARED about undermining the dump she would of said something at the time....no?

She needs to fuck up and she ain't foolin' anybody with more than 2 brain cells in their damn head.

[3Hotdogs]

71. Well, she fooled my cousin.

He bought a Haley Tee shirt.

[Hav]

10. Agreed

Another variant of that is Ben Sasse. Putting a friendlier face on the same far right ideology coupled with the pretense of empathy and understanding but it's still the same shit.
I consider both of them to be very dangerous in a GE matchup because they fake it so well.

[jberryhill]

11. Same thing in the UK

Priti Patel:

[LuvNewcastle]

79. Don't trust the liberal elite!

Put your faith in the poor, hard-working bankers and oil company executives.

[barbtries]

12. all i had to know

is she's a republican. are some of these threads favorable? are DUers buying her book?

[UTUSN]

14. Yip, a real threat from her start. If the Repukes really want power they would ditch SHITLER for her

[oldsoftie]

46. Can you IMAGINE the fit trump would exhibit if that happened??

[UTUSN]

69. Her current game: Fast tracking, get veep, get SHITLER gone - *presto* done-oh!1

[Raster]

92. Unfortunately for the GOP*, they have to dance with the devil that brung them...

... The GOP* high command did not want tRump* as a candidate, but once it was apparent that he would be the Rethug* nominee, they opened their arms and legs to the pussy grabber, because their thirst for power overrides all. Now they've got a poisonous reptile by the tail and are afraid to let go.

[kchamberlin25]

15. I live in SC and e-mailed her about medicaid expansion twice

She politely told me to go F@@k myself.

[PatSeg]

16. I was thinking pretty much the same thing

She is smarter than Trump and more presentable on a world stage, but I think she is every bit as dangerous, as her political ambitions know no limits. I think she'll do anything to further her political career, which is evident by her public boot-licking of Donald Trump to win over the rabid base. She should not be trusted.

[SCantiGOP]

21. I read enough excerpts from her book

to nail down her approach. Criticism of Trump’s nasty demeanor and his lack of any skill in handling foreign affairs to appeal to traditional republicans, coupled with loyalty and praise for his “accomplishments” to not irritate any of the Trump base.
And, while the criticism of any Governor running for Prez is their lack of foreign policy experience, she obviously has that covered in her resume.

[PatSeg]

62. Yes

When she took the position as UN ambassador, I'm sure that was because of her long range ambitions to run for president. Looks great on her resume.

[stopdiggin]

17. a very good point.- don't be fooled.- she's rabid right.- (nt)

[MartyTheGreek]

18. She's the smarter Sarah Palin but with experience this time.

If I recall, Sen. John McCain did not want Gov. Sarah Palin on the ticket, but RNC pushed her as an off-set to Obama.

They will do anything! Take the enemy's assistance, foreign funding, sleep with them, sell out their country! Hell, even change the party platform to favor a hostile government and nuclear power just before the 2016 POTUS election!

To this day they support a president that takes Putin's word over our own intelligence agencies reporting out that our elections were hacked by russia. The sad gop and russia will forever be in lowercase when I write about them from here on!

[Mars and Minerva]

19. She does and always will stink of Trump.

Every time she pops her head up she needs to be slapped down with a clip or photo of her kissing Trump's ass.

[mokawanis]

20. What you posted made me think of Kasich

he's also capable of hiding his real intentions while saying what he thinks people want to hear. I wouldn't trust either of them for 2 seconds.

[True Blue American]

27. Mister nice guy whose first

Plan was to destroy public unions when he was elected Governor.. good Christian man.

[stevil]

59. Behind the scenes Kasich

Is totally different from real Kascich. You nailed it.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

23. That is very scary. n/t

[Sherman A1]

24. She is a Republican

From what I can tell they are all cut from the same cloth. At best, just variations on a theme.

[not fooled]

25. Yep

Same bad policies, just better packaging with some like Haley and the master pitchman, raygun. Put a smiling, affable face on the same sh*tty policies of cutting taxes for the rich, cutting services for everyone else, and grinding workers and the middle class under the heel of the wealthy.

Plus, now with blatant fascism and racism.

No one who works for a living or isn't a sociopathic money hoarder should ever vote for these people in any guise.

They are all the same.

[srobertss]

26. Saw this article and my stomach clenched

https://www.axios.com/nikki-haley-book-rex-tillerson-john-kelly-7361fc12-c2ce-4e10-a709-d1fa63d5b67b.html

Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley wrote in her new memoir, “With All Due Respect," that former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and former Chief of Staff John Kelly tried and failed to recruit her to subvert President Trump in order to "save the country," according to the Washington Post.

I hope she will be shown to be on the wrong side of history sooner rather than later.

[Mike Nelson]

28. Haley is a big...

... danger, yes. Plus, the media loves her. Plus, she carefully doesn't offend Trump fans. A Kasich/Haley ticket would be difficult to defeat...

[pnwmom]

30. And two men would have an especially difficult time beating that ticket. n/t

[StarfishSaver]

47. She's one of the reasons I think Biden needs to expand his main argument beyond "I can beat Trump"

[LenaBaby61]

49. A Kasich/Haley ticket would be difficult to defeat...

It wouldn't be if Dems KNEW how to message and keep on throwing that crapola back in their faces that both are guilty OF. Think Kasich, think BUSH HIDEOUS ECONOMY/RECESSION. Kasich's stink is all over that. Haley was a horrible Governor in South Carolina. Guilty of hiring the worst folks and of hiring buddies there. Again, both are snakes.

BOTH are cut from the same thuglican cloth as tRump is as someone up 👆🏻👆🏻 in the thread rightfully said.

[Pachamama]

89. Another reason for a Biden/Harris ticket

Harris is part Indian....

And I say a Biden/Harris ticket beats a Trump/Haley or Kasich/Haley ticket....

[pnwmom]

29. Yes, and if we don't have a woman somewhere on the ticket, we are ceding a good chunk

of the women's vote, and recognition for being the only party to elect a woman President, to the R's.

[Hortensis]

68. The Repubs are running conservative women out of office.

Last year, for instance, their house caucus had 23 women, now it's 13 women who are very angry and embattled over the way they're being treated. Getting rid of senators, elected by whole states for 6 years is harder, and that's the reason they haven't plummeted in number also. It's happening in some state and local governments as well.

And of course there are many attacks on women's equality directed at all of us. Only female misogynists and women who agree with inequality are going to vote for them.

Btw, this is yet another sign pointing to increasing fascism on the right. Fascistic governments are strongly male dominated and don't like empowered women.

[pnwmom]

70. They didn't run Nikki Haley out of office. She left her position in Trump's good graces

and she's been busy sucking up to him ever since.

And she comes across as a moderate, even though she is anything but, so she could get the votes of millions of uninformed voters.

[Hortensis]

85. Oh, she's a peach, all right, but she's also at risk from

what she's part of. There's a lot of hostility on the right toward women in positions traditionally held by men, and men at all levels who agree with that can harness it to take down women at all levels. The more successful the RW fascistic movement became, the more at risk Haley herself would be, not just women in general.

[shanti]

31. Putin's money

I wonder if she took some.

[yaesu]

32. Anyone who would lower themselves to work for tRump should never be trusted. nt

[Hekate]

33. I kind of figured that, from the company she keeps, but it's good to have first-hand observations...

Please do keep us posted.

[Cosmocat]

34. Yep

Appreciate the on-the-ground confirmation, but everything you posted I'm seeing from several states away pretty clearly too.

[spanone]

35. K&R...👍🏼

[raccoon]

36. Don't let it be forgot, her name is really Nimrata. Nt

[SCantiGOP]

42. But that is another area where she will contrast favorably with Trump

Her family emigrated from India and made a first-generation fortune (legally as far as I know). They started a high-end women's clothing store and invested their profits in real estate.

Nikki does have one black mark on her financial resume. She was employed as a major donor fund raiser, asking corporations for $100,000 plus donations on behalf of the largest hospital consortium in Columbia. Testimony from several people who worked there said she was only seen on premises a time or two, and there were serious questions if she was earning her $100,000 stipend or just receiving it so she would vote the right way as a State legislator. But this all came out during the campaign and didn't really hurt her, and of course it pales in comparison to getting $400 million from Daddy and then teaming with the NY mob to rip people in with real estate deals.

[gilligan]

37. Well

She's a Republican.

[paleotn]

39. Ah, but Nikki isn't what I would call..."family values"

She's got a somewhat...shall we say....sordid personal life. Normally, I don't give two shits. But when it comes to the self righteous, gawd fearin' Republicans, personal life is more than fair game. Won't matter to the wing nut faithful, as we've seen with IQ45, but still. Our side needs to take the damn gloves off. The fate of the Republic demands it. Enough of the "we go high" stuff. It isn't working. When they go low, which they always do, we bury the mother fuckers. Just like the Democratic Party of old.

[oldsoftie]

44. If what Trump has done doesnt bother them, nothing SHE'S done will

I havent heard of her screwing porn stars or cheating or being married 3 times or being accused of rape.
But then again, I dont know what you're referring to!!!

[paleotn]

56. She's supposedly had a number of extramarital affairs

One with Will Folks, a Mark Sanford press secretary and Larry Marchant, a consultant for former SC Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer. Both men confessed. She's denies it. I think it's funny as hell coming from self righteous Republicans.

[dalton99a]

58. +1

[SCantiGOP]

63. And one of the trysts

Was supposedly in the back seat of her SUV. That’s what I call family values.

[ChubbyStar]

64. Cue Meatloaf

Paradise By The Dashboard Lights. How classy Nimrata!

[oldsoftie]

65. Well i guess you could say she's quite "ambitious"

[Dopers_Greed]

40. She is definitely going to run in 2024

Which I am absolutely terrified about.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

52. Or maybe as VP in 2016

Pence better go tell Mother that they may be moving soon.

[oldsoftie]

41. Oh, a LOT of trumpers dont like her. She removed the Dixie flag from the Statehouse

They havent forgotten.

[liberal N proud]

43. She is very dangerous

[ConstanceCee]

50. But....

We'll have the House and Senate, so she won't be able to reign.

[SCantiGOP]

51. Except that a President, with the veto

Turns both the House and the Senate into a body that needs a 2/3 vote to pass anything.

[Cetacea]

53. She has the psychopathic stare...

And everything else you listed.

[dlk]

54. Haley is a Trumper to her core

She is attempting to promote herself as something else. She’s not.

[dalton99a]

60. Trump will endorse her - unless Ivanka wants the job

[CaptainTruth]

55. Agreed. Out of all potential GOP candidates she concerns me the most.

With a good campaign strategist & communications team, I think she could be hard to beat.

[Baked Potato]

57. This is what I was eluding

To when I said we’re lucky Trump doesn’t have charisma or leadership ability.

Haley covers those bases.

[dem4decades]

61. Morning Joe had been pushing her all year. He's a "former Republican" my ass.

[Susan Calvin]

73. If he pushes her, he's as bad as her. nt

[dem4decades]

75. She's Trump with more polish and shine.

[bluecollar2]

66. She is more dangerous than Trump...

No doubt.

[EricaGriswoldAuthor]

67. women, stop calling the Republican Party the party of old white men

Republican WOMEN are the reason why most women are democrats....

[Kind of Blue]

78. +1000!

[YOHABLO]

72. Absolutely. They're not going to stop their agenda for the U.S.

This is why we need strong Democratic Women candidates like Warren, AOC, Harris, Klobuchar. We cannot allow these people to turn this country into a Theocratic Fascist state.

[colorado_ufo]

74. She drove me nuts every time she spoke at the UN

Read the page, turn the page, read the page, turn the page, and on and on. A spontaneous word never left her mouth.

[Kind of Blue]

77. Thanks! It's the best to have someone on the ground, particularly a DUer,

who can confirm feelings. I'd love to read more on your perspective.

[dchill]

82. A shark can smell blood in the water.

[BlueMTexpat]

84. I do NOT underestimate

this woman at all.

She has already destroyed her reputation with our traditional allies through her slavish toadying as Ambassador to the UN. They see her for the phony that she is.

She destroyed any reputation with me the moment she accepted work with 45's MisAdministration.

[scrabblequeen40]

87. She's "brown" so ...

Enthusaism among the racists will be tempered, and they comprise a huge chunk of the GOP. The only reason to support her is a play for the middle and independeents, right? No chance that will be a winning strategy for Trump's GOP. They can't afford to alienate the far right with a brown candidate. Even if that brown candidate is as dangerous as Trump.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

91. Nikki Trump ....

She reminds me do much of him.

[Polybius]

93. She's without the Tweets plus likes wars more

So in the end, she's worse.