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Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,229 posts)
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:54 PM Nov 2019

8 years of suffering under Barack Obama

The sentence I hear most from well-meaning, conservative friends since President Trump’s election is this: “We suffered 8 years under Barack Obama.”

Fair enough. Let’s take a look.

The day Obama took office, the Dow closed at 7,949 points. Eight years later, the Dow had almost tripled.

General Motors and Chrysler were on the brink of bankruptcy, with Ford not far behind, and their failure, along with their supply chains, would have meant the loss of millions of jobs. Obama pushed through a controversial, $8o billion bailout to save the car industry. The U.S. car industry survived, started making money again, and the entire $80 billion was paid back, with interest.

While we remain vulnerable to lone-wolf attacks, no foreign terrorist organization has successfully executed a mass attack here since 9/11.

Obama ordered the raid that killed Osama Bin Laden.

He drew down the number of troops from 180,000 in Iraq and Afghanistan to just 15,000, and increased funding for the Department of Veterans Affairs.

He launched a program called Opening Doors which, since 2010, has led to a 47 percent decline in the number of homeless veterans.

He set a record 73 straight months of private-sector job growth.

Due to Obama’s regulatory policies, greenhouse gas emissions decreased by 12%, production of renewable energy more than doubled, and our dependence on foreign oil was cut in half.

He signed The Lilly Ledbetter Act, making it easier for women to sue employers for unequal pay.

His Omnibus Public Lands Management Act designated more than 2 million acres as wilderness, creating thousands of miles of trails and protecting over 1,000 miles of rivers.

He reduced the federal deficit from 9.8 percent of GDP in 2009 to 3.2 percent in 2016.

For all the inadequacies of the Affordable Care Act, we seem to have forgotten that, before the ACA, you could be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition and kids could not stay on their parents’ policies up to age 26.

Obama approved a $14.5 billion system to rebuild the levees in New Orleans.

All this, even as our own Mitch McConnell famously asserted that his singular mission would be to block anything President Obama tried to do.

Even more at https://tericarter.wordpress.com/2017/07/10/8-years-of-suffering-under-obama/

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8 years of suffering under Barack Obama (Original Post) Tom Yossarian Joad Nov 2019 OP
Suffering? They don't know the meaning of the word. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2019 #1
I can see why they were suffering. Very humiliating experience, when you juxtapose that lagomorph777 Nov 2019 #70
From a decent man to a garbage can. AJT Nov 2019 #2
Garbage can? This is a straight up dumpster fire. Initech Nov 2019 #4
Beautifully Put! corbettkroehler Nov 2019 #25
Where, oh WHERE, did you find that t-shirt ? Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2019 #50
Alas, I Don't Actually Know corbettkroehler Nov 2019 #74
Right here! Beartracks Nov 2019 #79
And they were sincerely "suffering" ...as racists and bigots, seeing a POC in charge Eliot Rosewater Nov 2019 #3
That's really it right there. A Black man was president and they're still beside themselves over it. Garrett78 Nov 2019 #6
Not just a black man a black man named BARACK OBAMA Eliot Rosewater Nov 2019 #17
That's Barack HUSSEIN Obama. n/t Harker Nov 2019 #21
Let's Remember He's Biracial, Too corbettkroehler Nov 2019 #26
Something for every bigot to hate. Harker Nov 2019 #28
Don't forget about the Dijon Mustard! Doc_Technical Nov 2019 #81
Right... get a free shot in Harker Nov 2019 #86
and don't forget she planned a coup of the WH for her son to be POTUS on the SummerSnow Nov 2019 #82
Luv It! She Did That From Hawaii! corbettkroehler Nov 2019 #83
No, no. it was from Kenya all the way to Hawaii.lol SummerSnow Nov 2019 #85
And not just BARACK OBAMA BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #23
perfect Eliot Rosewater Nov 2019 #72
Obama earned respect all over the world mokawanis Nov 2019 #5
None of that matters to them treestar Nov 2019 #7
He destroyed their myth of white supremacy Clash City Rocker Nov 2019 #80
Suffering Turbineguy Nov 2019 #8
Imagine what he could have accomplished if he didn't spend so much time playing golf!!!!! George II Nov 2019 #9
A truly decent human being. The definition of class. Pepsidog Nov 2019 #10
Their idea of suffering is different from mine. Lonestarblue Nov 2019 #11
+1 Tom Yossarian Joad Nov 2019 #12
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2019 #14
"they had to endure the indignity of having a smart black man in the White House" Martin Eden Nov 2019 #18
I think that's exactly it for some people. Harker Nov 2019 #30
Hillary was right Martin Eden Nov 2019 #33
That's a more elegant word than they deserve. n/t Harker Nov 2019 #35
And according to them, their beloved "First Stripper" shows more class.... lastlib Nov 2019 #53
You forgot the sarc .... or, wait, never mind. eppur_se_muova Nov 2019 #57
The disconnect is as bad, but inverse to 45 Cosmocat Nov 2019 #13
Air fa la la lo struggle4progress Nov 2019 #15
they are not 'well meaning' they are racists. spanone Nov 2019 #16
We can use reminding that Obama, despite lack of enough support from Dems, and constant Republican emmaverybo Nov 2019 #19
History Progressive2020 Nov 2019 #20
They suffered because he was black and extremely competent. milestogo Nov 2019 #22
Showing hateful racism made them suffer lunatica Nov 2019 #24
'Well-meaning?' 'Conservative?' elleng Nov 2019 #27
I'm just gonna assume a sarcasm tag was forgotten. Grokenstein Nov 2019 #34
On the OP, maybe, elleng Nov 2019 #36
That's what I meant, sorry. Grokenstein Nov 2019 #39
Gotcha elleng Nov 2019 #46
Imagine their suffering when a woman is elected president, or a gay man. sop Nov 2019 #29
He drove them crazy zipplewrath Nov 2019 #31
Yes yes yes, but he's one of THOSE PEOPLE Grokenstein Nov 2019 #32
I always tell the Repubicons Obama was the doc03 Nov 2019 #37
....I Will Accept... titanicdave Nov 2019 #38
They saw a black President, and any hint of rational thought evaporated. ArtTownsend Nov 2019 #40
THIS. New Breed Leader Nov 2019 #41
As an African American I'm gonna break it down underthematrix Nov 2019 #42
I think it's fear... Tom Yossarian Joad Nov 2019 #43
Let's not forget- he is a middle class single mother kid underpants Nov 2019 #44
IMO, he was the best president in US history, replaced by the very worst. Doodley Nov 2019 #45
Their suffering was listening to any rightwing media source like Fox ,but marked50 Nov 2019 #47
Poor things let themselves be brainwashed Cha Nov 2019 #48
Is it too late Aussie105 Nov 2019 #49
The suffering was that they had to suffer a black man in the WH. Thomas Hurt Nov 2019 #51
They mean seething with hatred that a black man was elected President in this country. brewens Nov 2019 #52
I had to brace myself to open this. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2019 #54
Everything that drove the Obama haters nuts is here in this video: VOX Nov 2019 #55
Yes, but the racists had to suffer the humiliation of a black man proving he was smarter tclambert Nov 2019 #56
Yes, that is exactly the "suffering" they were referring to. honest.abe Nov 2019 #66
There's a lot more to the ACA then the pre-existing conditions and up to 26 year olds.. progree Nov 2019 #58
Obama, one of the great Presidents Joinfortmill Nov 2019 #59
"Butbutbut..." Dirty Socialist Nov 2019 #60
Well I did suffer, and a lot grantcart Nov 2019 #61
Another very nice post! I've bookmarked it for future reference. PatrickforO Nov 2019 #62
Eight years of having their racism challenged Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2019 #63
DELETE THIS POST - REPORTER RETRACTED STATEMENT Owens Nov 2019 #64
this is a reprint story from 2017. probably not the topic you're thinking of.... unblock Nov 2019 #65
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PETE. honest.abe Nov 2019 #67
I almost alerted on your response Niagara Nov 2019 #68
I'm sorry, what on earth are you yelling about? Tom Yossarian Joad Nov 2019 #69
Owens is confusing your OP with this article in the primaries forum Niagara Nov 2019 #75
Excellent post. honest.abe Nov 2019 #71
love this Hamlette Nov 2019 #73
Yep, that tan suit made alot of people suffer. Oh the humanity! SummerSnow Nov 2019 #76
Love the photo... so very much miss him! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #77
The supposed indignity of having a Democrat (and for some, a black man!) in the White House. Beartracks Nov 2019 #78
I miss having a real POTUS Gothmog Nov 2019 #84

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
70. I can see why they were suffering. Very humiliating experience, when you juxtapose that
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 12:03 PM
Nov 2019

against the record of Junior Bush.

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
74. Alas, I Don't Actually Know
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 01:49 PM
Nov 2019

I just spotted that image on Twitter one day and made it part of my DU footer. It's the best!

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
3. And they were sincerely "suffering" ...as racists and bigots, seeing a POC in charge
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 03:06 PM
Nov 2019

giving healthcare to other POC and gay folks, seeing justice being done for minorities was a nightmare for them

The worst people in this country and there is a shitload of em.

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
26. Let's Remember He's Biracial, Too
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 04:47 PM
Nov 2019

Those bigots still operate under the ridiculous notion that the only way Barry's mother engaged in coitus with his father was via rape.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
82. and don't forget she planned a coup of the WH for her son to be POTUS on the
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 04:32 PM
Nov 2019

date of his birth. She's a genius.

mokawanis

(4,440 posts)
5. Obama earned respect all over the world
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 03:07 PM
Nov 2019

with Trump the whole world can see what a corrupt and immoral prick he is.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. None of that matters to them
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 03:19 PM
Nov 2019

Their "suffering" was having an educated and intelligent black man in the White House, who they could not stand to acknowledge was smarter and more educated than they. But they had to, deep down on their tiny minds.

Clash City Rocker

(3,396 posts)
80. He destroyed their myth of white supremacy
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 02:40 PM
Nov 2019

By proving he was brilliant and a decent human being. They can never forgive him for that.

Lonestarblue

(9,988 posts)
11. Their idea of suffering is different from mine.
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 03:44 PM
Nov 2019

They suffered because they had to endure the indignity of having a smart black man in the White House when that position should be reserved only for white men. How dare Obama be smart and a respected, effective leader admired the world over! That’s the cause of their suffering.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. +1000
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 03:57 PM
Nov 2019

Suffereing, my ass! The imagined "indignity" of racist white people having to bear two productive terms - despite republican obstruction - of an intelligent, dignified, competent black man is fucking bullshit. These people suffered nothing but white humiliation at being proved inferior to a superior black man that made this country a better place than it was before, even though he was thwarted by racist republicans the entire time and never whined or complained once about his persecution.

I am so fucking over this shit and the whiny little bitches in the republican party who think they are being dealt with harshly because they are finally being held accountable. They can all go to hell.

Martin Eden

(12,867 posts)
18. "they had to endure the indignity of having a smart black man in the White House"
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 04:08 PM
Nov 2019

Now they have someone in the White House who has restored the kind of dignity they hold dear.

Harker

(14,018 posts)
30. I think that's exactly it for some people.
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 04:59 PM
Nov 2019

Now they have someone who stands for what they believe in... someone who embraces their ignorance and bigotry -- and waves it around over his head for all to see.

They're not appalled - their hopes have been wildly exceeded, and they're thrilled.

This is just the beginning.

lastlib

(23,226 posts)
53. And according to them, their beloved "First Stripper" shows more class....
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 10:04 PM
Nov 2019

...than that "angry black woman," Michelle Obama.


eppur_se_muova

(36,262 posts)
57. You forgot the sarc .... or, wait, never mind.
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 11:26 PM
Nov 2019

It's good sometimes to let people figure things out for themselves. Not that any lurking tRumpers will manage.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
13. The disconnect is as bad, but inverse to 45
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 03:55 PM
Nov 2019

And frankly, how they gin themselves up to believe For No Good Reason how horrible BHO was, is part of what set them up to justify the current POS.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
15. Air fa la la lo
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 03:57 PM
Nov 2019


And whether the blood be highland, lowland or no
and whether the skin be white or black as the sloe
of kith and of kin we are one,
be it right
be it wrong
if only our hearts be true to the lilt of the song

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
19. We can use reminding that Obama, despite lack of enough support from Dems, and constant Republican
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 04:10 PM
Nov 2019

bat ruction, as well as bearing the brunt of historic and systemic racism, accomplished significant changes on so many fronts—saved us from the brink economically, protected us, restored our reputation internationally, and, BFD, ACA, the Iran deal, gay marriage, Osama Bin Ladin.

As dear old mom used to say, “when Obama was President, I slept well at night.”

May we deliver ourselves from the long nightmare Trump and company have inflicted on our nation, and the danger his policies (Putin’s) present the world.

Progressive2020

(713 posts)
20. History
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 04:22 PM
Nov 2019

History will treat Barack Obama well, I think. He is one of the smartest and most careful President that we have ever had. He had no major scandals during his Presidency, especially when compared with certain others.

Health Care, getting Bin Laden, and saving the Auto Industry and the Economy will be the main accomplishments that are recorded and remembered. These are the sort of results you get when you elect someone that is smart, strategic, and prudent. Trump, on the other hand, I would not trust as a dog-catcher. He is a threat to Democracy and American National Security.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
31. He drove them crazy
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:01 PM
Nov 2019

I worked with alot of GOP people. Their complaints were often baseless. Yes, some of his positions and policies were contrary to their beliefs. But really they weren't PERSONALLY affected by them. Alot of them did end up paying a bit more for health insurance, but these were very highly paid people. And many of them were getting BETTER insurance at the same time. Yes, some of them saw their income taxes go up, but mostly just a little. And in the mean time he was cleaning up a huge mess that W had left behind. That's why we ended up with so much "tan suit" crap year after year. They had to work really hard to find anything to complain about.

Grokenstein

(5,723 posts)
32. Yes yes yes, but he's one of THOSE PEOPLE
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:02 PM
Nov 2019

We had one in the Oval Office for eight years.
What a nightmare!!
/sarcasm

titanicdave

(429 posts)
38. ....I Will Accept...
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:25 PM
Nov 2019

.....that type of....."suffering"".......any day over the BS we are tolerating today.......THANK....YOU....PRESIDENT....OBAMA....for 8 wonderful years of civilized governing.....

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
42. As an African American I'm gonna break it down
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:44 PM
Nov 2019

so there's no misunderstanding.

When white conservatives say they suffered under President Obama for 8 years what they means is this:

For those 8 years, they did not feel good about being white. This is an important distinction because most pundits talks about how white people feel about people of color instead of how they feel about themselves. By not using this frame, the MSM can maintain the illusion of white supremacy. But the bottom line is President Obama made white folks feel bad about their whiteness.

Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,229 posts)
43. I think it's fear...
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 06:00 PM
Nov 2019

They are very close to not being the predominate ethnic group and that scares the shit out of them because yhey're afraid roles will be reversed. As an old hippie white guy talking.

underpants

(182,803 posts)
44. Let's not forget- he is a middle class single mother kid
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 06:01 PM
Nov 2019

I am too.

He did what anyone with a brain does when they get a new position- he reads and listens. Okay, most anyone.

They blurred the line with W...well. The media was a willing participant. The tea baggers were on the air every morning, lead story. The media needs two horses in the race. "Socialism" wasn't the broad swath that we hear now...but it was.

He is what the conservatives have preached about for decades. He threw it back in their face. They hate it.

He came from a different background. Chaotic. Smoked some weed. And then did right, keeping what he knew to heart.

marked50

(1,366 posts)
47. Their suffering was listening to any rightwing media source like Fox ,but
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 07:18 PM
Nov 2019

they just didn't realize the brain drain that was happening. The one thing is that they are no longer zombie food.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
48. Poor things let themselves be brainwashed
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 07:48 PM
Nov 2019

and don't have a ******* clue went happened during President Obama's time in office.

brewens

(13,585 posts)
52. They mean seething with hatred that a black man was elected President in this country.
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 09:35 PM
Nov 2019

They won't admit it, but that's what it was all about. That kind of hate is stressful on them though.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
55. Everything that drove the Obama haters nuts is here in this video:
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 10:31 PM
Nov 2019

Grace. Comfort. Connection. Empathy. Erudition. Maturity. Confidence. Team builder/player. Rational. Savvy. Genuine. Proud African American.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
56. Yes, but the racists had to suffer the humiliation of a black man proving he was smarter
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 10:50 PM
Nov 2019

and better at performing the duties of president than most white presidents. That daily embarrassment had to sting.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
66. Yes, that is exactly the "suffering" they were referring to.
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 11:37 AM
Nov 2019

It reminds of that scene from 12 years a slave where the white boss was humiliated by the smarter black slave.

progree

(10,907 posts)
58. There's a lot more to the ACA then the pre-existing conditions and up to 26 year olds..
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 11:38 PM
Nov 2019
For all the inadequacies of the Affordable Care Act, we seem to have forgotten that, before the ACA, you could be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition and kids could not stay on their parents’ policies up to age 26.

For one thing, before the ACA, pretty much all there was in the private individual health insurance market was junk insurance.

And prior to the ACA, it was practically impossible to compare plans, since there were no standard set of benefits ...

And the ACA did away with the annual and lifetime caps.

The ACA capped out-of-pocket costs.

The ACA provides subsidies for those under 400% of poverty -- didn't have anything like that before the ACA, at least not for mid-lower and middle income people under 65.

It expanded Medicaid which fortunately most states implemented.

I'm sure there are many more benefits of the ACA if I worked on this some more.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
61. Well I did suffer, and a lot
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 12:29 AM
Nov 2019

Almost from the first day I would hear "why can't you be more like Barack?"

Then there would be reports about how he had spent the day crafting a solution to the Burmese problem and that he would break to go have dinner with his kids so that he could help with their homework and then he returned to the office to make calls to secure other countries to sign in on the resolution.

Watching the TV my daughters and my wife then looked at me.

I managed an awkward smile and a little shrug.

When the President interceded on a domestic crises with a perfectly balanced speech that showed compassion for people who were on both sides of a confrontation three sets of eyes turned to me.

Meekly I said, "when I got home tonight I cleaned the hummingbird cleaner. They seemed to like it".

This was met with rolling of eyes and "give it up Dad", "yeah really, how lame".

Considering how, in comparison with Michelle Obama's grab, my wife contemplated how 'short shrifted' she ended up in this whole marriage deal my nick name was changed to "Kae Kaa" which means "useless object in the way". For example "Dinner ready 'Kae Kaa'".

After the ACA was passed I defended my cosmic usefulness with "At least I don't smoke". After the loud noises of disgust family members joined in the "You can have three packs a day if"

" . . . play basketball that good"

" . . . looked that good"

" . . . sing like him"

When relations with Cuba were re established in 2015 I responded with "about time" and was rewarded with a two week stay on the sofa.

The pressure was unrelenting. How to bear the burden of such an unfair comparison.

Then Donald Trump was elected.

Almost immediately my stock went way up. The first and most obvious was "what a monstrosity on his head" "you got lots better hair than that slob".

Compliments flowed daily as we watched the Presidency descend from Mount Everest to a subterranean level. Now when a clip came on the TV my family watched with disgust and then looked at me with happy eyes.

I could hear my daughters talking with their friends, "Oh no my Dad hates Trump 10 times more than your dad" and they would share one of the Letters to the Editors that were published or the 44 seconds that made it to the TV after 2 "man in the street" clips made after protests.

There was much greater concern for my health as well. In addition to my diabetes and Meniere's there was growing concern about my worsening Parkinson's

I would be watching TRMS or Last Word and my wife would take her earplugs off and pause her Thai soap and tell me that my Parkinson's was getting much worse. My face was red and my arms were shaking as if I was boxing someone. "No its OK, is there any pineapple left".

My wife would look at Trump, look back at me and get up and spend 10 minutes preparing a plate of Mango, Pineapple, Green Apple and grapes with the first three cut in decorative cuts. You should know that my wife's super power is picking the best tasting fruit in the store. You think I am kidding, I am not.

So perhaps you will forgive me that I haven't told her that I actually don't have Parkinson's.

I only have one more year and then things will go back to normal. No more fruit trays delivered. At least I won't have to suffer like I did under Obama. That was a once in a lifetime experience.

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
62. Another very nice post! I've bookmarked it for future reference.
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 01:08 AM
Nov 2019

Obama was the best president in my lifetime.

Owens

(197 posts)
64. DELETE THIS POST - REPORTER RETRACTED STATEMENT
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 11:11 AM
Nov 2019

REPORTER ADMITTED HE WAS WRONG AND RETRACTED THE STATEMENT. DU THIS IS A VIOLATION OF ACTING DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES!!

Niagara

(7,605 posts)
68. I almost alerted on your response
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 11:50 AM
Nov 2019

thinking you came here to disrupt. You might want to stop yelling and self-delete since this article was written by David Starkey on October 3, 2017. It has absolutely zero to do with Pete.

Niagara

(7,605 posts)
75. Owens is confusing your OP with this article in the primaries forum
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 02:16 PM
Nov 2019

One can read it here:https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287342549


However , if Owens would have actually read your OP, they would know what your OP is about.

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
78. The supposed indignity of having a Democrat (and for some, a black man!) in the White House.
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 02:33 PM
Nov 2019

So many times I hear unfounded stuff like, "After what Obama did to our military..." Looking at you, Inhofe. Uh - what did he do, exactly? I never hear the details. However, I certainly don't remember our military losing a country while President Obama was in office.

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