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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 07:29 AM Nov 2019

There's a whole generation of voters growing up, thinking that THIS is the Republican Party.

Gone are the days of Lincoln and his inspiration.

Gone are the days of Theodore Roosevelt and his love of nature.

Gone are the days of Dwight Eisenhower and his warnings against the military-industral complex.



There is a whole generation of voters who think that the GOP is the Party of George Walker Bush.

The party who failed to defend the US against the biggest terror-attack in US-history.
The party who fabricated evidence in order to invade Iraq for oil.
The party who looked the other way while the US military and US intelligence committed war-crimes and ran torture-programs.
The party whose fiscal policies caused the biggest world-wide financial crisis since the Great Depression of 1929.

There is a whole generation of voters who think that the GOP is the Party of Donald John Trump.

The party who looked the other way when foreign forces conspired to infiltrate the US election-process.
The party who looked the other way when the President told easily debunked lie after easily debunked lie.
The party who abandoned traditions and norms once they got in the way of amassing power.
The party who sabotaged the geopolitical power of the US.
The party who turned itself into a Führer-cult and branded dissent from the establishment as betraying the Republican Party.
The party who looked the other way when Nazis loud and proud marched in US streets.
The party who looked the other way when the republican President was found guilty of stealing from a charity.
The party who looked the other way when the republican President abused the power of his office.







The Republican Party has sacrificed everything they stood for in their quest for more power. There is nothing the Republican Party stands for any more.

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duforsure

(11,885 posts)
3. By republicans possible refusal to impeach for bribery and extortion by this president
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 07:50 AM
Nov 2019

Shows their contempt for the rule of law , and our Democracy. The disaster they now face is the wrath of the overwhelming majority of the American people for protecting criminals, over our country's national security, and just for their future for personal gain. This is the biggest failure by a political party I've ever seen. That's why a lot of people are running from trump and them now. They didn't learn anything from the Mid Terms, and the recent election drubbing, and will only help the Democrats take over full control in 2020. They'll pay dearly after that too when its all out for the public to see, they're criminals too. Republicans are on the trumptanic going down fast with trump now, and promoting lawlessness for trump and themselves. This is already failing for them.

Cosmocat

(14,575 posts)
4. Eh
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 07:58 AM
Nov 2019

We were hearing similar the GOP is in trouble posts here in the early 2000s, they got a brief 4 year timeout in the 06 and 08 elections, before the country gave them the biggest midterm wipe out in our lives in 2010, because the Democratic president passed their version of healthcare reform. Then elected an out and out sociopath president of the United States.

I have been pulling my hair out over Republican lunacy since the early 90s, and over the last three decades have come to learn that this country will never stop indulging right-wing fuk witrie.

They are hate amoebas, they'll adapt to whatever weakness the country exposes for them to appeal to its lesser instincts, and become that.

We may get this scumbag out of the White House, but you're still going to have a s*** ton of Jim Jordans in Congress in the Senate, vile governors and state legislators. And, we may have a brief run of a cycle or two where Democrats do well.

But something like 911 will come along, they will wrap f*** it in the country will go along with it.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,467 posts)
5. they're correct. this IS the Republican Party
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 08:22 AM
Nov 2019

It's the party of Putin and Trump. It's a cult, moving at the whim and behest of the ultra rich.

FakeNoose

(32,791 posts)
6. I hope we're witnessing the demise of the Republican Party
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 08:25 AM
Nov 2019


They don't deserve to exist in the USA any more. Let them all move to Russia or some place else.



dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
7. Frightening isn't it? The GOP of the past was a somewhat healthy
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 08:54 AM
Nov 2019

rival for the Dems. That is no longer the case.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
9. That's not true...
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 08:58 AM
Nov 2019
"Republican Party has sacrificed everything they stood for in their quest for more power."


And I say this because it's important to understand what we are up against. Libertarian economics (Reagan, Koch Brothers, Paul Ryan, etc) are now in favor authoritarian rule and against democracy.


https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/11/democracy-defenders-economic-freedom-neoliberalism?__twitter_impression=true

Democracy doesn’t matter to the defenders of ‘economic freedom’

The idea for the economic freedom index was born in 1984, after a discussion of Orwell’s 1984 at a meeting of the Mont Pelerin Society – an exclusive debating club of academics, policymakers, thinktankers and business leaders formed by Friedrich Hayek in 1947 to oppose the rise of communism in the east and social democracy in the west. ...

The Friedmans gathered a crowd of luminaries, including Nobel prize winner Douglass North and The Bell Curve co-author Charles Murray, to figure out whether something as nebulous as freedom could be quantified and ranked. They ended up with a series of indicators, measuring the stability of currency; the right of citizens to own bank accounts in foreign countries and foreign currencies; the level of government spending and government-owned enterprise; and, crucially, the rate of individual and corporate taxation.

When Walker’s Fraser Institute published its first index in 1996 with a foreword from Friedman, there were some surprises. According to its historical overview, the second freest economy in the world in 1975 was Honduras, a military dictatorship. ...

What was going on? One answer is that the project of measuring economic freedom had made some of its authors question their prior assumptions about the natural relationship between capitalism and democracy. By the 1990s, Friedman, who had previously seen the two as mutually reinforcing, was singing a different tune. As he said in an interview in 1988: “I believe a relatively free economy is a necessary condition for freedom. But there is evidence that a democratic society, once established, destroys a free economy.” An enfranchised people tended to use their votes to pressure politicians into more social spending, clogging the arteries of free exchange. ...

In the workshops devoted to creating the indexes, Friedman cited the example of Hong Kong as evidence for the truth of this proposition, saying: “There is almost no doubt that if you had political freedom in Hong Kong you would have much less economic and civil freedom than you do as a result of an authoritarian government.”

lonely bird

(1,689 posts)
16. Capital prefers democracy as its initial breeding ground...
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 10:16 AM
Nov 2019

that being said it prefers authoritarian systems to continue its existence on any level which funnels wealth upward. Attempts to bring the fruits of production and capitalism itself to the masses of labor and people are viewed as being a threat to wealth/capital. It is important to understand that the primary driver is not freedom or any other nebulously defined value. It is greed/fear. It is with the prism of psychology, sociology, and anthropology that so-called economic freedom must be viewed. People like the Friedmans, Von Hayek, Von Mises and the Mont Perelin Society must be opposed but it is critical to understand not just that they are opposed but how and, more importantly, why from THEIR VIEWPOINT. If such deliberate care is not taken then the lampreys like Rand Paul and other assorted politicians will scream socialism at the top of their lungs causing change to be stillborn.

We must be careful to understand that the birth of this theology lies in the country's early days in the South and slavery. While places like the Austrian School put forth their own manifestos regarding conflating "freedom" (undefined) with so-called economic freedom (defined as wealth doing whatever it wishes, consequences be damned) it was John Calhoun and later James Buchanan (not the president) who put forth the particularly virulent strain unique to this country. Others merely took it up.

keithbvadu2

(36,947 posts)
12. Certainly not an old style republican with morals, honor, ethics and integrity.
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 09:48 AM
Nov 2019

Some falsely deny that Trump is a republican...

Selected/nominated as a republican at the republican convention.
Ran as a republican.
Elected as a republican by the EC.
Acknowledged as the republican leader.

Certainly not an old style republican with morals, honor, ethics and integrity.
Those folks are gone.

But he's a republican.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
13. I'd throw in the Party of Susan B. Anthony and womens rights/suffrage.
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 09:59 AM
Nov 2019

In a different era, I'd have hoped to be Republican.

Initech

(100,107 posts)
17. They put party and power over country.
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 10:25 AM
Nov 2019

They don't actually care about governing anymore. They just care about usurping power and knocking down their opponents. We are in for some dark times ahead.

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