PERJURY: "After Mr. Trump got off the phone with Mr. Stone, what did then-candidate Trump say?"

[kpete]

Last edited Tue Nov 12, 2019, 12:37 PM - Edit history (5)

Zelinsky gets to ask the question.

"After Mr. Trump got off the phone with Mr. Stone, what did then-candidate Trump say?"

Gates: "He indicated that more information would be coming."

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Manafort then said that he would update others in the campaign, “including the candidate,” about future email drops, Gates testified.

A prosecutor then asked Gates if the “candidate” that Manafort was referring to was Trump himself, and he replied, “Yes.”


Gates also testified that in July 2016, he walked in on a phone call between Trump and Roger Stone. Although he personally didn’t hear the contents of the conversation, Trump told him after hanging up with Stone that “more information” that would be damaging to Hillary Clinton would be coming.

Gates is testifying as a witness in the trial of Stone, who was indicted earlier this year on charges of perjury, witness intimidation and obstruction of justice.

more:
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/manafort-said-he-would-personally-update-trump-on-wikileaks-damaging-hillary-clinton-leaks-rick-gates/

PERJURY.

Trump denied in writing and under oath to Mueller any recollection of ever discussing WikiLeaks with Stone or being aware of Stone discussing WikiLeaks with the campaign.

Gates testified he was in the car with Trump when he Trump talked to Stone about it.

Rick Gates direct is over. Brief but hardly lacking in substance, including government getting on record that Donald Trump himself talked about upcoming WikiLeaks disclosures based on conversation with Roger Stone

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Trump got off the phone with Stone and told Gates that more was coming from WikiLeaks. But Trump told Mueller he didn't recall ever speaking to Stone or anyone else about what WikiLeaks would be doing. This is a big indicator Trump lied to Mueller--which could be a crime.

This was on 7/31/16, after Trump got off the phone with Stone.

This testimony suggests both Trump and Stone lied to prosecutors. Stone claimed he didn't talk to the campaign about WikiLeaks. Trump told Mueller he didn't recall any such conversations.

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Presidential Perjury

On the left:

Top campaign official Gates testifies that Manafort asked him to check in regularly with Stone about WikiLeaks disclosures and indicated "he would be updating" Trump

On the right:

Trump's written response to Mueller under penalty of perjury

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[kpete]

1. PERJURY.

[spanone]

2. Perjury...plain & simple.

[Scarsdale]

3. Stone describes himself

as a "dirty trickster" so anyone getting involved knows what to expect. Sneaky little man. He orchestrated the Brooks Brothers raid in Florida that cost Al Gore the presidency. Time wounds all heels, Rog!!

[NCLefty]

31. Can our next president not have any "dirty tricksters" among their associates or friends?

I don't feel like this is good for America. >.>

[Scarsdale]

34. This president is a

"dirty trickster" and has been his entire life. The gop should be ashamed to cover for this worthless ass.

[triron]

4. Corn: "could be a crime". Why only 'could be'?

[thesquanderer]

10. "do not recall" is an out.

It doesn't say it might not have happened, only that he does not remember it happening. How do you prove otherwise?

I'd play the video of him talking about what a great memory he has.

[triron]

14. I don't think the burden of 'proof' is that high. I don't think a jury would buy the 'forget'

gambit.

[neohippie]

16. I agree that don't recall is not equal to a lie

There's a reason people say they have no recollection of an event, as there's no way to prove what they remember and this is not equal to perjury

[gab13by13]

17. Remember it doesn't have to be a crime,

It's tough to prove perjury because you also have to prove intent. Gates testimony is another piece of the puzzle, another nail in the coffin.

[SayItLoud]

5. Unless Stone or ManaFart corroborate, tRUMP will deny and skate. nt

[bluestarone]

6. IF we had the FULL mueller report

We i'm sure could prove numerous times he perjured himself to Mueller!!

[Duppers]

15. Exactly!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. But Mueller had it. If Gates turned why didn't Mueller

Ding trump on this ?

[triron]

26. Why should Mueller 'turn'?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

27. ? Are u being facetious?

[triron]

29. No. I'm serious, why should he? He's up there in age, why subject himself to the resulting stress?

And threats? Do you think he will?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

32. Confused. All I am saying is that Gates turned and

Mueller interrogated him. So just wondering out loud why the subject of this OP (and Trump's lie) weren't exposed by Mueller in his report? If perjury, why isn't that spelled out?

[triron]

33. OK, I see. Don't know. Also don't understand why Mueller gave in to written answers etc.

I never thought he would do that a priori.

[dalton99a]

7. Kick

[ffr]

8. Forming the picture of what is Putin's #1 asset in the White House.

[czarjak]

9. "If it's what you say it is, I love it"...

Who knew?

[calimary]

12. Bookmarking.

[infullview]

13. Add it to the list of articles of impeachment.....

[GOPGoindown]

20. Exactly

my thought as well.

[MartyTheGreek]

18. Did Trump at that point in time, know Russia did the hacking?

-When was this WRT the TT NY Meeting?

-When did candidate Trump called out Russia if You are Listening?

-Did Trump's Internet and social media guru know that Russia provided stolen hacked data to WikiLeaks? Cambridge Analytica?

[triron]

19. Sciutto: Gates says there were witnesses.

Link to tweet

[hughee99]

21. I don't think anyone is going to be charged with perjury for saying

“I don’t recall”. Also, what came out about Hillary after this conversation? I don’t recall any revelations that would have come from stone after that call, but maybe I just wasn’t paying attention.

[Beartracks]

22. Trump lied to a Special Prosecutor? I'm sure the Republicans will...

... be all over this to hold him accountable, if their track record with Bill Clinton is any indication, eh?



=======

[Heartstrings]

23. Please, please!

Can THIS finally put an end to this nightmare!

I mean, what’s it going to take....seriously?

[triron]

25. On TRMS, good ol Chuck Rosenberg threw serious shade when Rachel tried to argue that Trump lied.

Of course he's a republican (I bet anyway).

[Heartstrings]

28. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Cognitive dissonance?

[triron]

30. A lot of republicans suffer from that.

[calimary]

35. BOOM!

[librechik]

36. Hey, slow down. All of this, while slimey, is Perfect-ly OK for the US President

after we lost the war with Russia without realizing it. In the future, all Presidents will simply be gang bosses in debt to Putin, and no one will love and respect us for our honesty, kindness and determination to stand up to Nazis and dictators. Hope you love what we let Putin's guile do to us. But it sure beats letting liberals achieve anything! Yeah.

Go ahead and cry, liberal, now that the USA is gone. Who cares? WE conservatives got another WIN, altho once again we had to cheat to get it.

Shut up, liberals. We own you now.

[struggle4progress]

37. Lemme guess: lying under oath is OKIYAR?