Holmes opening statement is a must read! Stunning!

[Johnny2X2X]

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6550845-2140-001.html#document/p1

Just stunning the way Sondland and Trump brazenly betray the US.

[FM123]

1. So bizarre to read in the middle of that important statement

"but that you can tell the Kardashians you tried"

[Midnightwalk]

2. What is this wacky oil deal? And Stockholm syndrome

Perry and Zelensky exchange a list of energy people for more meetings. State department people not included.

I suppose energy development is something Ukraine wants to do and we’re good at it.

The oligarchs really want to control energy. There’s a lot of money in energy.

If you sell government policy for political profit why wouldn’t you do it for money.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we learned more.

Still slogging through the rest.

Edit 1. Kardashians and the rapper with Stockholm syndrome. My head exploded

[eppur_se_muova]

7. Oil is Russia's major export. Russians want to control Ukraine's energy markets ...

... and use them to export Russian oil for badly needed cash, circumventing sanctions against Russia. Remember Tillerson wanted to do a huge oil deal with Russia, before sanctions got in the way (and he kept trying afterwards). Who better to infiltrate Ukraine and act on Russia's behalf than US oil company executives ? They've already shown they're willing, and Perry really only works for the oil companies.

https://qz.com/1034589/exxonmobil-made-illegal-deals-with-russia-when-secretary-of-state-rex-tillerson-ran-the-company/

[hkp11]

3. Thank you!

Great that we now have someone who can put Drumpf in the middle of this bribery play!

[Johnny2X2X]

4. Just makes me sick

These louts (Sondland and Trump) are representing the US to the world. And they’re both open in public about not caring about anything but what they can get personally out of it. Just sickening and a disgrace to the positions they hold.

[iluvtennis]

5. Reading it now - thanks for the post.

[Dan]

6. I don't know if

the House is going to complete this part of the Impeachment proceeding this month. Seems like with every new person that testifies there is more crap revealed about this White House and Trump.

One part of me wants to hear everything, yet there is a part of me that is scared s---less about what is going to be revealed next. I also think that the more they pull on this Putin/Russian string - I am not sure what is going to come out. I fear that we will learn something about Trump and Putin that we will wish that we did not discover.

[triron]

8. No, I wish the worst possible scenario for Trump.

[backtoblue]

9. Just read it

Absolutely, well... WOW.

"Rudy fucks everything up" - Sondland

Holmes had first hand account of the Sondland/Trump call and verified previous testimony.

He mentions specific, first hand conversations with Ukrainian officials and the "amigos"

"The rapper arrested in Sweden" was mentioned and "use the race card"


I paused for a moment when Jay Leno was mentioned. Casual mention of his name as being at a public event.


Note that my quotes are not verbatim, but pretty damned close.

The hearsay argument flew right back into the gop's asses from which it came...