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Funtatlaguy

(10,887 posts)
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 08:44 AM Nov 2019

Will we ever know the REAL Russia/Trump story?

You would think that some enterprising journalist with Russian connections and sources might someday break this story.
What is the hold that Putin has on Trump?
When did it start and what are the parameters and who are all the players?

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Will we ever know the REAL Russia/Trump story? (Original Post) Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 OP
Read Seth Abramson's Proof of Collusion, if you haven't already. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #1
Also read "The Plot to Betray America" by Malcom Nance. triron Nov 2019 #5
Also "House of Trump, House of Putin" by Craig Unger. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #6
Nance is a national treasure. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #7
I've wondered that, myself. Ilsa Nov 2019 #2
They should start with the first beauty pageant held in Russia. Funtatlaguy Nov 2019 #3
There was an article posted early in Old Yeller's dicktatorship... Hugin Nov 2019 #4

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
1. Read Seth Abramson's Proof of Collusion, if you haven't already.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 08:56 AM
Nov 2019

I'm 42 and it will take the rest of my life to unravel all the threads of this complete catastrophe.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
2. I've wondered that, myself.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:07 AM
Nov 2019

Since he ended up in the presidency, life has gotten very complicated for him.

I think freeing Manafort is an important objective, but maybe for reasons not obvious, yet.

This gambit using Ukraine hedges his position with Putin:
•Taking the heat off Russia for election interference vs having to give them javelins;
•Keeping Putin happy vs having his primary opponent slammed.

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
4. There was an article posted early in Old Yeller's dicktatorship...
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:45 AM
Nov 2019

discussing how we collectively will never know the depths of crimes about to be perpetrated.

The author compared it to an astronomical black hole and continued the metaphor to say via investigation and the inevitable revelations of the passage of time all we'd ever see was the event horizon.

A very apt metaphor... In my humble opinion.

Looking back on that article and what is currently transpiring from what we can see in the event horizon, I'm damn glad we can't see any further into the depths of the Trump Hole.

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