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kentuck

(111,094 posts)
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:17 PM Nov 2019

The Republican Party knows Trump is guilty and is engaged in massive cover-up

They are, in their entirety, betraying our country and the American people.

No amount of lies or propaganda can hide them from the truth.

They know that the emperor has no clothes, yet they continue to pretend it is nothing more than a partisan squabble. Their denial is obvious to everyone except themselves.

How long can they continue this charade? They believe they can lie their way to victory in the next election.

Unfortunately for Republicans, there is no easy way out. They are about to reap what they have sown.

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The Republican Party knows Trump is guilty and is engaged in massive cover-up (Original Post) kentuck Nov 2019 OP
GOP also know he is a danger to the American people, the country Iliyah Nov 2019 #1
I agree kentuck Nov 2019 #2
That is exactly right...nt 2naSalit Nov 2019 #9
When Kevin McCarthy said Putin pays the Con malaise Nov 2019 #3
Investagative Reporters have been Wellstone ruled Nov 2019 #5
The Repugs are afraid ... Tennessee Hillbilly Nov 2019 #4
it's the party of destruction, greed, corruption, and Putin Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #6
in for a penny, in for a pound... stillcool Nov 2019 #7
Bringing the U.S. down shanti Nov 2019 #8
Right now, they are accomplishing their goals with changing the federal coursts for generations to beachbumbob Nov 2019 #10
+1,000,000 ... the courts are their objective Auggie Nov 2019 #11
always was and why the "lesser of 2 evils" mantra gave us trump beachbumbob Nov 2019 #12
Indeed Auggie Nov 2019 #13
don't say cover up. Say "criminal conspiracy" Grasswire2 Nov 2019 #14
Exactly. Criminal behavior needs to be referred to as the criminal behavior it is NotASurfer Nov 2019 #15
They're playing the long game. They know they can bounce back from defeat in 2020. Garrett78 Nov 2019 #16
If Democrats Turin_C3PO Nov 2019 #17
That's a big "If" and cheating is a given. Garrett78 Nov 2019 #20
I agree with all that. Turin_C3PO Nov 2019 #23
Racism is a very potent drug. Rather, it's been fomented and exploited to the greatest extent. Garrett78 Nov 2019 #24
Republican voters know, too. They are good with this and has simply adopted Republican leaders Jewls2 Nov 2019 #18
It's not merely a cover up or a conspiracy - - it's a coup. Talitha Nov 2019 #19
The Republican Party has been engaged in a slow-moving coup for 50 years. Garrett78 Nov 2019 #21
They're co-conspirators. ArtTownsend Nov 2019 #22

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. GOP also know he is a danger to the American people, the country
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:23 PM
Nov 2019

and democracy, but still defend him. That tells me one thing, the GOP as a whole are a danger to the American people, the country and democracy.

malaise

(268,993 posts)
3. When Kevin McCarthy said Putin pays the Con
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:30 PM
Nov 2019

and Paul Ryan told them to keep it in the family every single ReTHUG became involved in a cover-up.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. Investagative Reporters have been
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:51 PM
Nov 2019

saying this for sometime. The Grift by the Rethugs seems to be 100%,take it while the taking is good.

4. The Repugs are afraid ...
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:37 PM
Nov 2019

The Repugs are afraid that they will lose the racist voters if they get rid of trump.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
7. in for a penny, in for a pound...
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:54 PM
Nov 2019

you'd think some would have started breaking away. Fear is such a good motivator.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
8. Bringing the U.S. down
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 12:59 PM
Nov 2019

is a feature not a bug in the Republican's plan. They know their time is short, so they are going totally scorched earth, and Barr says WE are the ones doing it! The ultimate gaslighting. This has been in the works for quite some time.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
10. Right now, they are accomplishing their goals with changing the federal coursts for generations to
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:08 PM
Nov 2019

come.

Morals, ethics, values are no longer respected with republican/conservative circles and we best remember that

Auggie

(31,169 posts)
11. +1,000,000 ... the courts are their objective
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:18 PM
Nov 2019

Control of Congress and the White House swings like pendulum, but the courts are forever. The repukes who will be voted out will move onto corporate gigs, lobbying, or retire on their generous pensions. But the pro-corporate courts remain indefinitely.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
12. always was and why the "lesser of 2 evils" mantra gave us trump
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 01:25 PM
Nov 2019

shame on all those who voted stein or stayed home because of it

Auggie

(31,169 posts)
13. Indeed
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 02:46 PM
Nov 2019

Repukes are patient too — good at playing the long game. Even if/when the current crop goes down with Trump, they know the pendulum will swing back to them (or some new iteration of the “party”) in four to eight years.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
14. don't say cover up. Say "criminal conspiracy"
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 03:50 PM
Nov 2019

That's what it is. Subverting the Constitution may not have been the aim of all Republicans, but it is the result.

NotASurfer

(2,150 posts)
15. Exactly. Criminal behavior needs to be referred to as the criminal behavior it is
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 03:56 PM
Nov 2019

I'm hearing a shift to direct language like this and I'm all for it.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
16. They're playing the long game. They know they can bounce back from defeat in 2020.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:45 PM
Nov 2019

We still have a tyranny of the minority political system, dark money, foreign interference, gerrymandering, voter suppression, an incredibly ignorant public, and so on.

Even if they lose the White House and the US Senate (far from guaranteed given the inevitable shenanigans), the Republican Party will continue as is. Trump 2.0 will be smarter and more charismatic.

Turin_C3PO

(13,991 posts)
17. If Democrats
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 04:57 PM
Nov 2019

remain engaged like they were in 2018, it will be very hard for Republicans to win the Presidency ever again without massive cheating. The demographics simply aren’t on their side.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
20. That's a big "If" and cheating is a given.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:22 PM
Nov 2019

Trump wouldn't stand a chance at re-election if election fraud (voter suppression, foreign interference, etc.) wasn't inevitable. But Trump is especially egregious. The Republican Party can nominate a more savvy version next time around.

This nation's population remains incredibly ignorant and has demonstrated a penchant for power swinging back and forth just for the sake of power swinging back and forth.

Demographic change is certainly on our side, but as long as the electoral college is in place, *where* people reside remains hugely consequential. We have a very anti-democratic system. For instance, by 2040, we're expected to have nearly 70% of the population represented by just 30% of the US Senate. Everyone needs to recognize what a threat that is if we hope to be at all democratic.

Our education system and our media are both in need of major reform. We need civics to be a major component of education, and media literacy should be mandatory curriculum. We need to reverse media consolidation and make it a point of emphasis to use the media to critique the media (as Republicans have successfully done for decades). Every Democrat who goes on TV should call out the media's tendency to promote false equivalencies and fluff, and the media's tendency to give equal time to lies and obfuscation (in the name of supposed fairness). As things stand, we have an epidemic of ignorance in this country. Tens of millions of people subscribe to utter nonsense. Tens of millions of others are completely disengaged.

We also need major reform of campaign financing and to get rid of Citizens United.

Turin_C3PO

(13,991 posts)
23. I agree with all that.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:39 PM
Nov 2019

My ultimate wish is that the spell breaks among rural Americans and they come to their senses and start supporting Democrats. After all, they were with us in the FDR era.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
24. Racism is a very potent drug. Rather, it's been fomented and exploited to the greatest extent.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 06:01 PM
Nov 2019

Along with sexism and cisgendered, hetero supremacy.

Absent racism alone, the Republican Party would cease to be viable. Racism is taught, and many are never given the opportunity to unlearn it, especially when they lack exposure to the 'outside world'. I recall reading years ago a very striking statistic; I no longer remember it exactly, but a huge percentage of people born in small towns never travel more than 50 miles from said town.

Most persons of color and women didn't reap the benefits of the New Deal, at least not initially, so FDR was easier to support. Jim Crow was still in full effect (I'd argue that it pretty much still is). It was just a different era. Everything changed in the '60s. The white backlash to the Civil Rights Movement was intense, as is the backlash to any racial/social progress. We went from Nixon's Southern Strategy (late '60s) to the Powell Memo and Moral Majority ('70s) to the dog whistling of Reagan and every Republican since ('80s, '90s and '00s) to Trump's bullhorn, which replaced the dog whistle (after 8 years of resentment built up over there being a Black man in the presidency--a Black man who hardly dared to address racism and was mild when doing so).

It's going to take a concerted effort to undo all the brainwashing. In the meantime, we have to focus on boosting turnout of POC, youth and white suburban women. If we can approach 2008 turnout, we can overcome shenanigans.

 

Jewls2

(218 posts)
18. Republican voters know, too. They are good with this and has simply adopted Republican leaders
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:00 PM
Nov 2019

behavior.

Talitha

(6,587 posts)
19. It's not merely a cover up or a conspiracy - - it's a coup.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:09 PM
Nov 2019

From Wikipedia:
"the overthrow of an existing government by non-democratic means; typically, it is an illegal, unconstitutional seizure of power by a dictator, the military, or a political faction."

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
21. The Republican Party has been engaged in a slow-moving coup for 50 years.
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 05:30 PM
Nov 2019

In her opening statement yesterday, Yovanovitch spoke of the degradation of institutions and hijacking by corrupt interests. That's been modus operandi for the GOP for half a century.

It's what I wrote about here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212601796.

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