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babylonsister

(171,102 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:03 PM Nov 2019

White House Claims Obama Left Them Hostile Notes, Which Nobody Has Seen

Never happened.


the national interest 10:25 A.M.
White House Claims Obama Left Them Hostile Notes, Which Nobody Has Seen
By Jonathan Chait
White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham Photo: Alex Wong/Getty Images


White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham today made a bizarre accusation. “We came into the White House, I’ll tell you something,”she said, according to CNN’s Abby Phillip, “every office was filled with Obama books and we had notes left behind that said, ‘You will fail,’ ‘You aren’t going to make it.’”

It is obviously impossible to prove a negative. Yet her account contains more than a few suspicious details. Forget the notes for a moment. Begin with her claim that every office (that’ a lot of offices!) was filled (it takes a lot of books to fill an office, even using the term “fill” loosely) with Obama books. What is an “Obama book?” A book written by Obama? A book Obama people might want to read?

Then there are the notes. Trump loves promoting the narrative that President Obama left “a mess” for him to clean up, and engineered deep state conspiracies to undermine him starting in 2016. Trump has floated the most bizarre conspiracy theories about Obama sabotage, including the claim that Obama tapped his phones. Trump would be extremely happy to circulate photos of any such “you will fail” notes, and any aid who produced such a note would have instantly become Trump’s momentary favorite. Yet nobody has produced any evidence of these notes, even though they were supposedly left throughout the building.

Reporter Jonathan Karl notes that he was in the White House on January 20, 2017, and saw no sign of either the “Obama book” or the notes. His photos show no sign of either:

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White House Claims Obama Left Them Hostile Notes, Which Nobody Has Seen (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2019 OP
to them hostile would have been RAB910 Nov 2019 #1
If that had really happened they'd have been ranting about it on January 21, 2017. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #2
And every day since! Runningdawg Nov 2019 #20
If there had been notes, Bettie Nov 2019 #23
i cant believe these idiots dont even know the move in/out protocols at the white house. mopinko Nov 2019 #3
I wish MSM wouldn't cover this obvious propaganda.🙄 dewsgirl Nov 2019 #4
I agree. Or, if they do, they need to cover it as just another bold faced lie. Caliman73 Nov 2019 #19
I 100 percent agree. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #21
Maybe she'd been drinking? CurtEastPoint Nov 2019 #5
Ya think?! (n/t) PJMcK Nov 2019 #27
Voila... CurtEastPoint Nov 2019 #29
Dumb asses never learn (n/t) PJMcK Nov 2019 #30
All they have is bullshit and whining C_U_L8R Nov 2019 #6
What it looks like when the worst behaved The Polack MSgt Nov 2019 #7
Does anyone else remember they said the same when Bill Clinton left office they claimed he mucifer Nov 2019 #8
I was just going to mention this Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2019 #13
Yep, They claimed that Clinton's people had COLGATE4 Nov 2019 #28
She wasn't even there in January 2017 ScratchCat Nov 2019 #9
They are trying to start to new controversy to distract from the hearings Peacetrain Nov 2019 #10
What's next, secret messages on toilet paper? FM123 Nov 2019 #11
Those Obama books were briefing books you moron exboyfil Nov 2019 #12
:-) Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2019 #24
The SHITLER mob tries to drag everybody down to their level UTUSN Nov 2019 #14
Echoes of 2001 claims that Clinton people "trashed" things and removed Ws from computers karynnj Nov 2019 #15
Lie... Distract... Lather, Rinse, Repeat. Geesh, they're so pathetic & obvious. nt WePurrsevere Nov 2019 #16
tRump is busy with his Sharpie as we speak.. CentralMass Nov 2019 #17
Yeah, and the Clintons took all the W's out of the keyboards, too... Wounded Bear Nov 2019 #18
Obama left thousands of dancing celebrating NJ Moslems in all the offices. Mc Mike Nov 2019 #22
And they just found them TODAY!!!!!! PA Democrat Nov 2019 #25
In the traditional letter left on the desk in the oval office chriscan64 Nov 2019 #26
Such bullshit. GoCubsGo Nov 2019 #31
Trump would have tweeted out pictures on day one. Flaleftist Nov 2019 #32
The sets of Hannity, Carlson, Pirro, etal, would have been Golden Raisin Nov 2019 #33

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,900 posts)
2. If that had really happened they'd have been ranting about it on January 21, 2017.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:05 PM
Nov 2019

Same kind of bullshit the Bushies claimed about Clinton's staff, which wasn't true either.

Bettie

(16,132 posts)
23. If there had been notes,
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 04:48 PM
Nov 2019

there would have been people holding them up and sending them to all the media outlets on day one.

Trump would be handing out laminated copies with his electoral college numbers!

mopinko

(70,268 posts)
3. i cant believe these idiots dont even know the move in/out protocols at the white house.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:06 PM
Nov 2019

do they really think that obama cleaned out his own desk/stuff?
that shit is all done by permanent staff, and it all goes like clockwork.

Caliman73

(11,752 posts)
19. I agree. Or, if they do, they need to cover it as just another bold faced lie.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:40 PM
Nov 2019

If they give it any coverage, which they should not, the headlines should read:

"Trump/White House promotes ridiculous lies about 'notes' from President Obama"

Something to that effect. Who are we going to believe, President Obama who showed nothing but grace, class, and compassion during the 8 years of his administration? or the man who has lied no fewer than 13,000 times in less one full term?

If they had ANY proof (as others have already stated) they would have shown it during the 2018 elections and Trump would be parading it endlessly to show "what a loser" President Obama was.

They are full of it and they are always given an air of legitimacy when the media reports it as anything but a straight up lie.

C_U_L8R

(45,025 posts)
6. All they have is bullshit and whining
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:07 PM
Nov 2019

The country will he so much better off when these losers are gone.

The Polack MSgt

(13,200 posts)
7. What it looks like when the worst behaved
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:08 PM
Nov 2019

second graders you can find are running the country.

Messes, broken pottery and nonsensical stories that blame others for the problems

mucifer

(23,576 posts)
8. Does anyone else remember they said the same when Bill Clinton left office they claimed he
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:09 PM
Nov 2019

trashed the white house. They have always been deplorable.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
28. Yep, They claimed that Clinton's people had
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 05:27 PM
Nov 2019

removed all the letter "W";s from the typewriters/computers.

ScratchCat

(2,002 posts)
9. She wasn't even there in January 2017
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:10 PM
Nov 2019

Good god, when they have nothing to divert away from Trump, they pull the Obama pivot every time. This is just laughably stupid, like they wouldn't have been crying about this since 01/21/17 if it had really happened.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
12. Those Obama books were briefing books you moron
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:14 PM
Nov 2019

Trying to get the new administration up to speed with what was going on

Thank goodness that the country was not in crisis mode unlike when the Obama administration came in.

UTUSN

(70,762 posts)
14. The SHITLER mob tries to drag everybody down to their level
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:26 PM
Nov 2019

because they know that they themselves are inferior to anybody of decency, honor, excellence of personal achievement. They have a cynicism that *everybody* is low-down like them, that the better qualities of life are just an act.








karynnj

(59,507 posts)
15. Echoes of 2001 claims that Clinton people "trashed" things and removed Ws from computers
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:28 PM
Nov 2019

It is a bit late to make these claims. In fact, there was a very nice public meeting of Trump and Obama, with Obama acting graciously. Not to mention, Obama had every department put together information on what the current situation was with what they thought relevant information.

Several State Department people spoke of Tillerson declining to meet at all with Kerry -- because he was told not to. It would seem from these two things, the Obama administration wanted a normal handoff. It was Trump who blew things up.

Wounded Bear

(58,743 posts)
18. Yeah, and the Clintons took all the W's out of the keyboards, too...
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:40 PM
Nov 2019

The Repubs are running out of material.

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
26. In the traditional letter left on the desk in the oval office
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 05:19 PM
Nov 2019

Obama should have required a security deposit for the country.

GoCubsGo

(32,097 posts)
31. Such bullshit.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:25 PM
Nov 2019

If that were true, we would have heard about it at the time. No fucking way would they have let it go AT ALL, let alone for this long. We all know goddamn well that they would have been screeching about it for months on end if any of it were even remotely true. They are so full of shit, I can't stand it. I. AM. SO. FUCKING. SICK. OF. THEIR. GODDAMN. LYING.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
32. Trump would have tweeted out pictures on day one.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 06:29 PM
Nov 2019

It's just more bullshit only his magat morons would believe.

Golden Raisin

(4,614 posts)
33. The sets of Hannity, Carlson, Pirro, etal, would have been
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 07:07 PM
Nov 2019

wall-papered top-to-bottom with those notes the day after Inauguration, along with much bellicose fire-breathing from those Fox screamer hosts.

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