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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums***IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY HEARING NOV 19 THREAD (AFTERNOON SESSION) 9***
Thread #3 (afternoon) here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212705732
ROUND 2 - Kurt Volker and Timothy Morrison
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ROUND 1 threads -
#1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212702820
#2 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212703086
#3 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212703544
#4 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212703876
#5 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212704180
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)being facetious.
polichick
(37,152 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Interpret that as you will.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)It's complete chaotic noise!
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Was that him with the flubbed line about James Taylor?
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)And Volker is pushing back.
spanone
(135,830 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Saying they were all involved with creating the russia collusion hoax
He just won a lot of friends...
crickets
(25,969 posts)the entire Republican party has decided to join him in dissing intelligence? That's so. stupid.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)sheshe2
(83,751 posts)crickets
(25,969 posts)You have been working hard all day keeping these threads going. Thanks so much!
polichick
(37,152 posts)Zoonart
(11,860 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)livetohike
(22,140 posts)day until now. Really appreciate the commentary.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)crickets
(25,969 posts)"we'd have nothing! I think we ought to think about that."
Meaning, no one spoke up and (aside from Taylor) no one had planned to say a word.
She is also calling out Morrison re Vindman leaking. Morrison is almost calling Vindman a liar, and trying to push if off on 'others who 'raised concerns.' I do not like Tim Morrison and do not trust him. He has made himself look quite bad today.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)asking who else was there - PARNAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Of course. He was exposing Manaforts crimes
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)(kinda spat it out)
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)Bluepinky
(2,268 posts)Cant follow this with a straight face. Where was Igor?
Lev and Igor are the Lenny and Squiggy of the Trump administration.
(The corrupt Lenny and Squiggy).
Bluepinky
(2,268 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)crickets
(25,969 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)Bluepinky
(2,268 posts)Brings back great memories.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Calling it impeachalooza 2019. And boring because theres nothing compelling
GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)Fuck him. I'll go back to it when he shuts the hell up. What a steaming, stinking sack of garbage.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)lol ... they're reaching now
madaboutharry
(40,209 posts)They behave like middle school kids.
GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)this kind of behavior is not only okay, but something to admire. It's sickening.
2naSalit
(86,580 posts)neighborhood heathens who are scared because they got caught trying to set the cat on fire in the livingroom.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)And totally misrepresenting it
We did provide security and aid. Just certain weapons were not provided
crickets
(25,969 posts)different regime was in power at that time in Ukraine as well. Kindof an important point.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)budkin
(6,703 posts)On them asking about "like you asking us to investigate Biden..." DAMN.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)and his amplifying the CT.
crickets
(25,969 posts)If Volker talks about threading the needle one more time...
Roland99
(53,342 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Trying to say all the same terms and such. Comes off as so fake
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)crickets
(25,969 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)And bribery and extortion
He wanted / needed the US assistance
polichick
(37,152 posts)They sneer and yell and belittle - such complete assholes.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)asking the outcome.
crickets
(25,969 posts)before answering a yes/no question.
"Do you consider yourself loyal to the president?" Shakes head no, says yes.
Morrison is tired and having a harder and harder time tracking what he can and can't say, po' thing.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)But we have testimony that merely the statement was enough of a response for the ask
LEW
(1,072 posts)tommorow?
eleny
(46,166 posts)onecaliberal
(32,852 posts)Answer: yes
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)Mersky
(4,980 posts)In her clever voice, stefanik wants us to believe that people committing bribery, extortion, and a coverup throw those terms around in their dealings.
Liberalhammer
(576 posts)-EOM-
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)President priority to was "to investigate the Bidens" as his policy and did he insist to the Ukranians to follow this?
(re: "lawful order" )
polichick
(37,152 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)Mersky
(4,980 posts)A nice reality check.
crickets
(25,969 posts)Swalwell always does a good job. All of the Dems chosen to ask questions are so sharp. nt
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)Bluepinky
(2,268 posts)So why is Trump so buddy-buddy with Putin?
onecaliberal
(32,852 posts)Morrison knew trump was wrong because he never pursued the investigations of Biden with the Ukrainians.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)Bluepinky
(2,268 posts)Hmm, wonder how Trump could use dirty info about Joe Biden in a political campaign, ok, I give up.
Cattledog
(5,914 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)Bringing up that Sondland was a "larger donor" to the campaign.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)Asking them if this is appropriate.
crickets
(25,969 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)in order to convince themselves that a corrupt con man is normal.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)Mersky
(4,980 posts)Hehhhhhhh. Just gotta waste time and breath on speculation, dontcha, ratcliffe?
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)onecaliberal
(32,852 posts)Anyone with a brain paying attention is going to understand this was the president using someone outside of our government to shake down a foreign government for dirt on trumps opposition in the 2020 election.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)And insulting the GOP for their lack of Constitutional knowledge and how Impeachment IS an "anti-corruption" tool - and was one of the first things passed by Ukraine with the new government.
crickets
(25,969 posts)budkin
(6,703 posts)"Of course it's about overturning an election!"
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)I'm a couple minutes behind here.
underpants
(182,788 posts)This guy is so consumed with appearances its finny.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)napi21
(45,806 posts)Mersky
(4,980 posts)To discredit him. Its been ridiculous.
Bluepinky
(2,268 posts)They seem to like the concept of a military, but have no use for the individuals who wear the uniform.
Bluepinky
(2,268 posts)Sounds like Trump attacking the Khans, the Gold Star family.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)bout Morrison "walk back".
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Siwsan
(26,260 posts)crickets
(25,969 posts)He points out all of the reforms Ukraine is trying to get passed to fight corruption and that the very first one is to add provisions for impeachment to their constitution. Heck says this shows how much integrity Zelensky had to start with his own office as first priority.
Reminds Volker no one wants to be involved in an impeachment, but here we are weighing important decisions about our republic, a republic if we can keep it. Denny Heck is a thoughtful and eloquent man.
Then Jordan opens his mouth and sounds like a needle ripping across a vinyl record, sigh.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Yet ignores the fact it came mere hours/days after the whistleblower report became public
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)dchill
(38,484 posts)...on Fox News.
BumRushDaShow
(128,908 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Were supposed to believe hes THAT fucking naive???