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TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:35 PM Nov 2019

Castor losing it.

He is not questioning -- he is arguing with the witness.

Also: He is speaking quickly and his tone of voice is higher than usual -- indicates panic to me.

This is not going well...when your own atty is panicked...it's time to try a new strategy.

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Castor losing it. (Original Post) TruckFump Nov 2019 OP
time to tell trumpy to give it up gopiscrap Nov 2019 #1
That or Pence with the 25th Amendment. EOM TruckFump Nov 2019 #3
pence is too much of a lackey toad to push trump gopiscrap Nov 2019 #4
Maybe with Mama holding his hand and pushing him. TruckFump Nov 2019 #6
He's dealing Lowball with a Pinochle deck... Wounded Bear Nov 2019 #2
Castor is NOT controlling this X-Exam. Bad lawyering. TruckFump Nov 2019 #5
Castor is trapped in a corner and it's showing. They have NO defense... MerryBlooms Nov 2019 #7
I noticed the same thing. He's not doing well. At all. Solomon Nov 2019 #8
They *all* seem to be on the verge of a nervous breakdown!1 SONDLAND is having tremors!1 UTUSN Nov 2019 #9
He sounds like he's ready to call it a day. Mike 03 Nov 2019 #10
He slumped back down in his chair at the end of his first round calimary Nov 2019 #42
Just watching Sondlund Facial expressions Wellstone ruled Nov 2019 #11
Yeah, Soudland is playing Castor for all it's worth. TruckFump Nov 2019 #14
Sondlund got his talking points from his Wellstone ruled Nov 2019 #18
Yeah, if the wife is watching the books and the income is dropping... TruckFump Nov 2019 #19
Sounds like Sondlund Wellstone ruled Nov 2019 #23
Interesting on the finances of the hotel. TruckFump Nov 2019 #25
Interesting things happen in Wellstone ruled Nov 2019 #29
Like I said. They had better sell that hotel business as fast as possible if they hope to have any Blue_true Nov 2019 #41
It's painful to watch -like watching a train wreck. Sondland is not going to be the sacrificial lamb AnotherMother4Peace Nov 2019 #12
Yep FM123 Nov 2019 #13
Fox is blocked at my house... TruckFump Nov 2019 #16
Yep! I heard they are. FM123 Nov 2019 #24
Hell has frozen over!!!!! TruckFump Nov 2019 #26
My local affiliate finally said this morning... Cracklin Charlie Nov 2019 #31
Monitoring censoring the truth. TruckFump Nov 2019 #32
I like the morning weather crew. Cracklin Charlie Nov 2019 #38
Yeah, Just like the way Fox posted Amb. Yovonovich's testimony leftieNanner Nov 2019 #43
I watched a bit of the Fox during the break- dawg day Nov 2019 #37
As a public speaker, I pick up on the same types of cues too. Pacifist Patriot Nov 2019 #15
Totally TruckFump Nov 2019 #17
His nod tic seems worse today too. Pacifist Patriot Nov 2019 #20
Good catch. TruckFump Nov 2019 #21
I'm imagining him mentally screaming, "I hate my job, I hate my job, I hate my job." Pacifist Patriot Nov 2019 #22
I am seeing Castpr picturing himself on an ice float as the Titanic sinks! TruckFump Nov 2019 #28
The stammering has begun "with, with, with Ukraine"... Trying to stay in control. nt AnotherMother4Peace Nov 2019 #27
He's getting into Sondland not taking notes... gristy Nov 2019 #30
It's a two-way street on this. TruckFump Nov 2019 #35
He looks like he is gonna cry mucifer Nov 2019 #33
Or wet his pants...or both! EOM TruckFump Nov 2019 #34
IT's weird-- there are plenty of top-level Republican attorneys-- dawg day Nov 2019 #36
Because, IMO, A sharp trial man (or woman) atty would recognize that... TruckFump Nov 2019 #39
CASTOR -- SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!! TruckFump Nov 2019 #40
Every lawyer of any experience has been there. TomSlick Nov 2019 #44

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
6. Maybe with Mama holding his hand and pushing him.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:40 PM
Nov 2019

Pence is in deep shit IMO. He could -- like the weasel he appears to be -- bear those pointy teeth and bite.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
5. Castor is NOT controlling this X-Exam. Bad lawyering.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:39 PM
Nov 2019

He is letting Sondland take control and Sondland so far is holding good against the bullshit coming from those who thought they could pin this on him.

MerryBlooms

(11,771 posts)
7. Castor is trapped in a corner and it's showing. They have NO defense...
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:41 PM
Nov 2019

Castor probably wishing he hadn't taken this crap job.

Solomon

(12,319 posts)
8. I noticed the same thing. He's not doing well. At all.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:42 PM
Nov 2019

He's floundering. He should have stopped with "you never heard Trump say directly to withhold the aid..."

UTUSN

(70,744 posts)
9. They *all* seem to be on the verge of a nervous breakdown!1 SONDLAND is having tremors!1
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:42 PM
Nov 2019

The big smiling was disconcerting at first. Now it's seeming like a meltdown in progress!1







Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
10. He sounds like he's ready to call it a day.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:43 PM
Nov 2019

It's not going well. He's probably sleep deprived. He probably prepared for an entirely different cross examination. It is all going up in smoke.

calimary

(81,500 posts)
42. He slumped back down in his chair at the end of his first round
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:08 PM
Nov 2019

with the look and posture of somebody who’d just been punched in the stomach. Looked utterly deflated.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Just watching Sondlund Facial expressions
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:43 PM
Nov 2019

is telling a story in it's self. Sondlund is so finished with Trump and he is pumping bits and pieces of info that Castor can not control.

So the days defense by the Rethugs is,Hillary Hillary,Biden Biden and oh btw,Obama did it too.

When Nunes goes word for word with Solomon's Conspiracy piece,you know Trump made the call.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
14. Yeah, Soudland is playing Castor for all it's worth.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:46 PM
Nov 2019

There is no way Sondland is gonna sacrifice himself for the MF 45 Admin.

Castor needs to STFU. As a retired atty, I am cringing watching this.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
18. Sondlund got his talking points from his
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:49 PM
Nov 2019

Spouse who I heard runs the Hotel Operation,as to Buddy you come clean or else. The Boycott is working.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
25. Interesting on the finances of the hotel.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:57 PM
Nov 2019

Then there is no room for finances going down. It could mean a total disaster for him and his family.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
41. Like I said. They had better sell that hotel business as fast as possible if they hope to have any
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 02:17 PM
Nov 2019

money left.

Like someone said, everything Trump touches dies.

FM123

(10,054 posts)
13. Yep
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:44 PM
Nov 2019

And we're not the only ones witnessing this fail.
Trumpy's faux news viewers are watching it all go down in flames in real time too. Wonder how their little brains are processing what their eyes see and ears hear...

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
16. Fox is blocked at my house...
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:47 PM
Nov 2019

...and I don't want to unblock. Are you saying they are televising this hearing? Wow if they are!

FM123

(10,054 posts)
24. Yep! I heard they are.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:56 PM
Nov 2019

(I am not sure what channel they are on, I don't really want to know lol)

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
31. My local affiliate finally said this morning...
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:05 PM
Nov 2019

That they would be “monitoring” today’s hearing, so they could keep us “up to date”. They didn’t say that they would be airing the hearing live.

Our local morning anchor is a trumper.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
38. I like the morning weather crew.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:12 PM
Nov 2019

And I love to laugh at that trumper anchor.

Can not WAIT to see what he looks like tomorrow morning, when he has to “report” his impressions of Sondland testimony!

leftieNanner

(15,154 posts)
43. Yeah, Just like the way Fox posted Amb. Yovonovich's testimony
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 03:08 PM
Nov 2019

And edited out all the stuff that was bad for their "Pres. of the US".

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
37. I watched a bit of the Fox during the break-
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:12 PM
Nov 2019

The only one I recognized was Chris Wallace, oh, and Ken Starr too. The other two bland-faced cyborg types, I don't know who they are. But they too seemed to be saying in their very tentative way, "This is bad. This is real bad."

Pacifist Patriot

(24,654 posts)
15. As a public speaker, I pick up on the same types of cues too.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:47 PM
Nov 2019

I think you are absolutely correct. The faster rate of speech and elevated pitch indicate panic to me.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
17. Totally
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:48 PM
Nov 2019

I am watching to see when the sweat breaks out on his forehead. Also stammering and not smooth.

Yep, panic.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
21. Good catch.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 12:54 PM
Nov 2019

The facial expressions -- such a pinched face. LOL...likes he needs to take a dump to rid himself of the toxicity!

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
28. I am seeing Castpr picturing himself on an ice float as the Titanic sinks!
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:00 PM
Nov 2019

You know, you do not need to love or even like your client...but you need to know when they are slinging total bullshit stories instead of the truth.

Castor, IMO, has not been around the block enough to get a clue on the dirt that his side of the room is blowing.

gristy

(10,667 posts)
30. He's getting into Sondland not taking notes...
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:04 PM
Nov 2019

as expected... I don't think it's going to get him very far.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
35. It's a two-way street on this.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:08 PM
Nov 2019

Allows Sondland, IMO, the refuge that he did not "remember" until he heard what others testified to.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
36. IT's weird-- there are plenty of top-level Republican attorneys--
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:09 PM
Nov 2019

former prosecutors, former AGs, real trial attorneys... why do they only seem to be able to hire these addled and muddled guys? I know it's got to be hard to make the case for Trump, but Castor's constantly eliciting testimony AGAINST his case. And he has no real judicial temperament-- he gets angry, confused-- unlike Schiff and Goldman, who remain pretty calm.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
39. Because, IMO, A sharp trial man (or woman) atty would recognize that...
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:13 PM
Nov 2019

...the party line bullshit was not gonna work.

They needed another patsy to blame: "We hadda good case and the dumb atty fucked it up."

They did not want a lawyer-like atty, a Goldman, they wanted someone who would buy the bullshit.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
40. CASTOR -- SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 02:07 PM
Nov 2019

You are making a fool of yourself. Your client -- the Repuke reps on the committee -- has been lying to you. Give it up.

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
44. Every lawyer of any experience has been there.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:32 PM
Nov 2019

Your case is collapsing before your eyes, you're tired of tap dancing, and your fists are sore from pounding the table. To make matters worse, your client is convinced he's winning.

I can empathize.

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