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Next round of hearings will include Mueller findings. (Original Post) dewsgirl Nov 2019 OP
this is wonderful news CatWoman Nov 2019 #1
I know. I hope they get the unredacted portions. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #2
They keep saying that no collusion mantra over and over but the truth is far different. Botany Nov 2019 #8
I only heard snippets in CNN but thought Coons Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #12
Read an article today, gab13by13 Nov 2019 #27
Apparently they still are. triron Nov 2019 #40
"Democrats intend to present Mueller findings in next round of impeachment hearings." Botany Nov 2019 #3
🤞🤞🤞 dewsgirl Nov 2019 #4
We have testimony that Trump was on the phone w/Roger Stone in 2016 after which he said ... Botany Nov 2019 #9
Makes sense PRETZEL Nov 2019 #5
Quite a few of the redactions involved the Stone investigation. Mike 03 Nov 2019 #6
I remember a while back, some of them were able to view the report dewsgirl Nov 2019 #10
Absofuckinglutely fabulous! malaise Nov 2019 #7
And dems did nothing to counter his bs, but he did a lot of damage Cetacea Nov 2019 #23
What about emoluments. Strikes me that this could Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #11
It's all tied together 2naSalit Nov 2019 #13
At least we have brain power on our side. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #14
And that is a very good point! 2naSalit Nov 2019 #15
The Ukraine testimony strengthens the Russia connection; proves Mueller was right. lagomorph777 Nov 2019 #24
+1000000000000 triron Nov 2019 #38
Yup. It's either/or...nt 2naSalit Nov 2019 #39
Excellent news. dalton99a Nov 2019 #16
how about we get manafort in the hot seat? mopinko Nov 2019 #17
The goal here is to tie some key Senators to these crimes cbdo2007 Nov 2019 #18
If that's the case, these is going to get very ugly and take dewsgirl Nov 2019 #21
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2019 #28
Yep. They will have to flip or recuse. There is no other way to get the job done. crickets Nov 2019 #29
Yep...we've got two things on our side... cbdo2007 Nov 2019 #37
Good NewJeffCT Nov 2019 #19
He did have that hit song "I Want Nothing" lagomorph777 Nov 2019 #25
Hope the turtle's name crops up as having been told about russia before he refused Garland. BSdetect Nov 2019 #20
This will send Republicans over the edge Johnny2X2X Nov 2019 #22
Let the Russiapublicans in the Senate vote AFTER the primaries. lagomorph777 Nov 2019 #26
There's a lot about to happen Johnny2X2X Nov 2019 #33
Honestly I think the Mueller report is the more damning reason for impeachment. Joe941 Nov 2019 #30
Everything is connected. When will the media realize this? triron Nov 2019 #35
Can we also throw in unlawful campaign payments to porn stars? malchickiwick Nov 2019 #31
The key is to make clear TREASON. Kid Berwyn Nov 2019 #32
+1 crickets Nov 2019 #36
Subpoena Roger Stone's ass! (Well not just his ass) triron Nov 2019 #34
How about "Individual One" hearings? If not for the office he holds, his orange ass Vinca Nov 2019 #41
Subpoena Michael Cohen to testify. triron Nov 2019 #42
Mueller stated if i felt tRUMP was not guilty i would state that here bluestarone Nov 2019 #43

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
2. I know. I hope they get the unredacted portions.
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:12 AM
Nov 2019

When they kept repeating no collusion. It was making me crazy.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. I only heard snippets in CNN but thought Coons
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:27 AM
Nov 2019

Said that no Republicans even want to talk to him and he said to wrap it up. Maybe this will change minds?

gab13by13

(21,285 posts)
27. Read an article today,
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 11:33 AM
Nov 2019

where Republican Senators met with Trump to plan their anti-impeachment strategy, unbelievable they do this in the open.

I still say Dems need to keep the pressure on Barr, he is more dangerous than Trump. I expect him to come out with a made up conspiracy theory to change the narrative.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
3. "Democrats intend to present Mueller findings in next round of impeachment hearings."
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:12 AM
Nov 2019

If they get to do this this could be lethal to the Trump Presidency.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
9. We have testimony that Trump was on the phone w/Roger Stone in 2016 after which he said ...
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:17 AM
Nov 2019

... that more stuff from Hillary's emails (stolen by Russia) is about to come out.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
5. Makes sense
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:13 AM
Nov 2019

the Intelligence Committee won't be the only committee presenting the results of their investigations to Judiciary when the start preparing the Articles of Impeachment.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
6. Quite a few of the redactions involved the Stone investigation.
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:13 AM
Nov 2019

At the very least those should be unredacted and made public now. I agree, it's time to unredact the Mueller report, including that tantalizing last page that lists investigations handed off by Mueller.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
10. I remember a while back, some of them were able to view the report
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:17 AM
Nov 2019

unredacted, but couldn't take photos or make copies.

malaise

(268,846 posts)
7. Absofuckinglutely fabulous!
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:14 AM
Nov 2019

Go Dems! Jordan was very careful yesterday not to suggest that Mueller cleared of the Con of Obstruction of Justice. I did notice that.

OOJ is an impeachable offense - Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Justice is coming, Don the Con is going to be impeached.

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
23. And dems did nothing to counter his bs, but he did a lot of damage
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:52 AM
Nov 2019

I'm listening to CSPAN callers and they are repeating all of Jordan's bs about how the Mueller probe produced nothing and was a hoax.

If they close the hearings before the Barr/Graham investigation it's over for 2020. They'll run out the clock and they have the advantage in getting narrative across through media.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
11. What about emoluments. Strikes me that this could
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:23 AM
Nov 2019

Really be an issue all people would care about? Is it not the type of issue you impeach over?

I foresee some great headlines and the reactions of an average person working their ass off seeing how he is profiting from being president.

2naSalit

(86,502 posts)
13. It's all tied together
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:39 AM
Nov 2019

These are not separate cases. It's about a major plot to destroy democracy and more specifically, the US of A. At least a great deal of the investigation for the first chapter of this tale has been done and suppressed. So that wheel need not be reinvented.

Glad this will be conducted appropriately.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
24. The Ukraine testimony strengthens the Russia connection; proves Mueller was right.
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 11:30 AM
Nov 2019

Or really, that Mueller didn't go nearly far enough.

mopinko

(70,069 posts)
17. how about we get manafort in the hot seat?
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:59 AM
Nov 2019

esp since you know he is in this picture.
let's have a chat about that plank about ukraine.

yup, it's all one scandal.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
18. The goal here is to tie some key Senators to these crimes
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:03 AM
Nov 2019

and they will have to flip. There is a very small amount of people who are sticking up and saying they wont testify, but imagine McConnell or Graham under oath, answering questions about Russian donations and stuff. THAT is when the Senate will flip.

crickets

(25,959 posts)
29. Yep. They will have to flip or recuse. There is no other way to get the job done.
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 11:40 AM
Nov 2019

To expect Senators to suddenly change their minds because it's the right thing to do is unrealistic in this political climate. To go to all the trouble of starting the impeachment process with no plan to combat that seems quixotic. Well, here's the other piece of the puzzle on how to get a more honest vote in the Senate: root out those who are complicit.

I've been swinging back and forth emotionally between "Yay! It's finally happening!" and "This is going to be a lot like Fitzmas, isn't it?" given the Senate situation. This just goes to show that more than one crowd in town can play the long game. It seems Pelosi, Schiff & co. have a long game set up and they are just getting started.

I'm back on the "Yay! It's finally happening!" train today.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
37. Yep...we've got two things on our side...
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 01:09 PM
Nov 2019

An impeached Trump is a weakened Trump no matter how the trolls on DU spin it. Running a candidacy with an impeached candidate is just plain stupid, which is why Bloomberg jumped in to the race, he sees what's happening and knows he can get a lot of those Trump voters to switch over to him.

Second, is what I mentioned before...we KNOW there is more to this than Ukraine, actually I think the Ukraine thing is a very small and fairly insignificant piece of the puzzle, but the more they weave in the Russian stuff and various Senators and other Repubes the better it is for us and the country. I doubt the house will even have an impeachment vote before Feb 2020.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
19. Good
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:04 AM
Nov 2019

I've noticed that Trump has not really gotten into the headlines as much the past few weeks - it's been his deeds as reported by credible witnesses that have made the headlines.

Trump has been in reactionary mode instead of driving the news cycle.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
20. Hope the turtle's name crops up as having been told about russia before he refused Garland.
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:08 AM
Nov 2019

He knew what was going to happen as did Ghouliani who bragged about it (info from his FBI friends).

There is no excuse for suppressing the full report.


Johnny2X2X

(19,011 posts)
22. This will send Republicans over the edge
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:30 AM
Nov 2019

They're still thinking that yesterday was the end of it all. The whining is going to be heard from outer space it will be so loud when Dems announce more rounds of hearings.

Personally, I think hearings should go through January. Dems still need to try to get the key players to give answers in front of the American people on Ukraine.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
26. Let the Russiapublicans in the Senate vote AFTER the primaries.
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 11:33 AM
Nov 2019

The math will be very different in the general election. And, it will be fresher in voters' minds.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
31. Can we also throw in unlawful campaign payments to porn stars?
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 11:43 AM
Nov 2019

The unindicted co-conspirator in chief will need his toadies in the Senate to say this was all just fine, some of them facing reelection ...

Vinca

(50,250 posts)
41. How about "Individual One" hearings? If not for the office he holds, his orange ass
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 06:37 PM
Nov 2019

would be sitting on the cot next to Cohen's for a few years.

bluestarone

(16,894 posts)
43. Mueller stated if i felt tRUMP was not guilty i would state that here
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:11 PM
Nov 2019

So what crime did Mueller feel tRUMP was guilty of?

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