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Seriously- What does Putin have on Lindsey Graham? (Original Post) redstateblues Nov 2019 OP
Probably dirty money. If not, I don't want details. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2019 #1
Dirty something Joinfortmill Nov 2019 #15
Yes. My best guess for all these with major "personality" changes Hortensis Nov 2019 #26
I have seen guess's ranging from video of him with little boys to dewsgirl Nov 2019 #2
Will we ever know? redstateblues Nov 2019 #4
I honestly have no idea, of course I hope we do. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #6
He's taken up residence in Trump's colon. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #3
LOL Joinfortmill Nov 2019 #16
Gotta be the later nt PRETZEL Nov 2019 #29
He told a lie, once. Cartoonist Nov 2019 #5
Irrefutable evidence of financial crimes dalton99a Nov 2019 #7
Point man for Wellstone ruled Nov 2019 #11
I'm Done Thinking Lindsey Has Something to Hide. The_Counsel Nov 2019 #8
Boom. redstateblues Nov 2019 #40
A lot of dirty campaign money? And Putin has the receipts? OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2019 #9
My guess Sherman A1 Nov 2019 #10
Nothing. The modern gop was teated on Limbaugh and raised on fox. Kurt V. Nov 2019 #12
Lindsey needs to know that we don't care about his kink or fetishes. As long as it's not a dead body NightWatcher Nov 2019 #13
DEpends On The KInk Me. Nov 2019 #17
We don't but his constituents do. mahina Nov 2019 #18
Maybe. Maybe not. Depends on the age. NurseJackie Nov 2019 #27
Probably nothing to do with Putin. Much more logical is OKNancy Nov 2019 #14
The 180 he did after a single golf game with Trump strongly suggests serious kompromat. nt tblue37 Nov 2019 #20
Trump told him it was all a game. redstatebluegirl Nov 2019 #36
Whatever it is, it must be pretty bad for Lindsey to turn around and be such smirkymonkey Nov 2019 #19
It's a puzzle for the ages. What do the McCains say, who know Alithea Nov 2019 #21
He was lost in his own reverie, he didn't actually care about Biden I don't think Beringia Nov 2019 #22
What does Putin bdamomma Nov 2019 #23
+1000. Hortensis Nov 2019 #31
Just taking a wild guess PRETZEL Nov 2019 #35
I'll bet that's part of it redstateblues Nov 2019 #41
Hard to guess? UTUSN Nov 2019 #24
Good question ck4829 Nov 2019 #25
Joe who? Roland99 Nov 2019 #28
Joe Biden: 'as good a man as God ever created.' This was in 2015, Hortensis Nov 2019 #37
Most likely, a boatload of dirty money. GoCubsGo Nov 2019 #30
Maybe this atreides1 Nov 2019 #32
:) HOW does Russia's FSB eat the GOP? One bite at a time. Hortensis Nov 2019 #33
Really what does the intelligence community have on everyone. LiberalArkie Nov 2019 #34
With Putin hacking their files too duforsure Nov 2019 #38
Putin bdamomma Nov 2019 #39

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. Yes. My best guess for all these with major "personality" changes
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:27 AM
Nov 2019

that caused their friends to not recognize them.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
2. I have seen guess's ranging from video of him with little boys to
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:18 PM
Nov 2019

necrophilia. Obviously it has to be something so heinous, most of us couldn't even imagine. Until then, all we have are guesses.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
3. He's taken up residence in Trump's colon.
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:19 PM
Nov 2019

But it's not clear why - due to kompromat or a desperate and cynical need to be the zit on a more powerful person's ass?

The_Counsel

(1,660 posts)
8. I'm Done Thinking Lindsey Has Something to Hide.
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:24 PM
Nov 2019

I think he just took the money. By now he shouldn’t even care anymore if he’s gay and it’s about to go public. That won’t shock too many folks—even in South Carolina.

What he doesn’t want to get out is he took that oligarch money. It’s in the millions, I’m sure, or all this won’t be worth it...

OAITW r.2.0

(24,489 posts)
9. A lot of dirty campaign money? And Putin has the receipts?
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:25 PM
Nov 2019

I think we'll find out that the entire Republican Party is being held hostage by Putin/Trump. Maybe we should watch their eye-blinks very closely for coded messages.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
13. Lindsey needs to know that we don't care about his kink or fetishes. As long as it's not a dead body
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:31 PM
Nov 2019

I don't care who or what he fucks or loves. As long as he's not a murderer who eats the victims, I don't care what's in his closet.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
14. Probably nothing to do with Putin. Much more logical is
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:32 PM
Nov 2019

Lindsey loves his life as a Senator. He likes the perks and the power. In order not to be primaried, he has to suck up to Trump.
He probably thinks Trump is a moron, but he is his best buddy because he likes to be seen and heard in the news and elsewhere.
Lindsey is a Republican. Never forget that either. Republicans have no character.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
36. Trump told him it was all a game.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:22 AM
Nov 2019

He knows how to play the deplorables, and will give the GOP whatever they want like court appointments if they leave him in power.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. Whatever it is, it must be pretty bad for Lindsey to turn around and be such
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:58 PM
Nov 2019

a Trump ass licker. That episode with the Marine today made me sick and convinced me that he will do anything to protect Trump's reputation at his own expense, so there must be something much bigger at stake.

I wish someone on our side could find out and expose him or threaten to so that MF45 didn't have sole control over him. What could be so bad that you would sell your soul to a cretin like Trump and allow him to control your life? I would do almost anything to be out from under that nightmare.

That's what I don't get about these guys. They could always have decent jobs as lawyers or lobbyists or do something else where they don't have to put up with this crap. Surely there could be worse things than losing their jobs as politicians. It's not like they make that much money and they could still grift on the side. I can't understand the loyalty and the desperation.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
23. What does Putin
Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:30 PM
Nov 2019

have on the whole GOP especially if they pushing the Ukrainian narrative that it was the Ukraine who meddled in the 2016 Election to help Russia destroy the US. Fuck they are all traitors.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. Joe Biden: 'as good a man as God ever created.' This was in 2015,
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:23 AM
Nov 2019

and his subsequent 180-degree, genuinely vicious realignment against Biden, along with many other radical changes, is part of a time line that can be used to pinpoint when something very bad happened to ol' Lindsay. If we're shocked by who Graham became, how about an honorable Democrat who's known and worked with him in the senate for decades?

“Lindsey is about to go down in a way that I think he’s going to regret his whole life," Joe Biden said on CNN. Asked by host Don Lemon what he would say to his longtime Senate colleague, Biden responded, “I say: ‘Lindsey, I just — I’m just embarrassed by what you’re doing, for you. I mean, my Lord.’ ” Joe Biden


GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
30. Most likely, a boatload of dirty money.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:35 AM
Nov 2019

Both campaign money and laundered money lining his own pockets. Somebody needs to check out whether or not he has offshore bank accounts. I wouldn't be surprised if some human trafficking is involved, as well. And, I doubt he's alone in either that or the dirty money. Far from alone, most likely.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
32. Maybe this
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:53 AM
Nov 2019

Leonard Blavatnik is a supporter of the US Republican Party, and in 2015–2016 donated a total of $7.35 million to six Republican political candidates, including South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham.

Blavatnik is also a longtime friend and business partner of Ukrainian-born Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, one of Russia's richest men, who is close to Russian President Vladimir Putin!


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. :) HOW does Russia's FSB eat the GOP? One bite at a time.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:04 AM
Nov 2019

I think most are thinking small in assuming Graham fell for money. The agents who compromise people in power only sometimes do it by first bribing them, and that's never the people at the top, like Graham, who can get plenty from legal donors. I'm pretty sure that Russia's legal (he helped write the laws opening the gates to foreign money nearly a decade ago now) super PAC donations came after they had him roped and tied.

Russian agents very often come with preexisting dirt used to blackmail victims into compromising themselves beyond recall, and/or they manipulate their target into doing something they can then use to force him into further cooperation. Deliberately or inadvertently leaking classified information, destroying records, selling their votes, conspiracy to commit crimes, meeting strangers in toilet stalls, business crimes, proof of election thefts, there are dozens of things that already dishonorable, weak, or foolish people do. That's going to be Graham.

As for the Republican Party itself, that was already rotting after 1980, increasingly packed with the sorts who'd agree to whatever those financing their elections required and ready for Russia's picking. I'd bet big money if I had it that Russia is hardly the only one using their own actions to blackmail some of the Republicans in power. Like their own donors or players in places like the FBI, who themselves may be compromised. Corruption among conservatives is now deeply entrenched. Russia played a big part in making that happen, but they built on what was already happening.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
34. Really what does the intelligence community have on everyone.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:06 AM
Nov 2019

The Patriot Act is still law. Therefor they still listen to everyone.

Remember DC had /has more stinger installations than anywhere else.

Everyone D & R have dirt on each other and everyone else.

The patriot act was the only thing needed to turn the U.S. into a fascist state.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
38. With Putin hacking their files too
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:43 AM
Nov 2019

He probably is part of organized election crimes, campaign funneled laundered money, and why they had trump use the Republican Party for him to run on, they had more against them to use for control, and to compromise them with. Trump isn't republican, and he just is doing what Putin wants for control and to use for manipulation for his benefit.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
39. Putin
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 06:51 PM
Nov 2019

is an ex-KGB'er, do we need to say anymore??? He's a thug/criminal and he wants to take down our country. He wants to get even with our country using his POS puppet.

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