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hlthe2b

(102,250 posts)
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 05:31 PM Nov 2019

Tiedrich claims Giuliani Bar status is "inactive" and that is why he works for Trump for "free"

I don't know if this is true or not, but it has some real implications for any compelled testimony, if so.

fun fact: Rudy doesn't belong to any bar right now. his status as a lawyer is "inactive." that's why he works for Trump for free: because as an inactive officer of the court, he is prohibited from charging for services


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Tiedrich claims Giuliani Bar status is "inactive" and that is why he works for Trump for "free" (Original Post) hlthe2b Nov 2019 OP
Maybe that's his 'insurance policy' Cirque du So-What Nov 2019 #1
Maybe... hlthe2b Nov 2019 #3
There should be no attorney/client privalage and he should be made to testify. patricia92243 Nov 2019 #2
This. UTUSN Nov 2019 #14
That doesn't make sense to me. euphorb Nov 2019 #4
It is different in New York. Sanity Claws Nov 2019 #6
I think retirement status is different than inactive status StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #15
It might be but he would qualify for retirement status Sanity Claws Nov 2019 #17
I see StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #19
He could still be censured even if his status is inactive. Sanity Claws Nov 2019 #5
His NY State registration is current through May 2020 StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #7
Apparently tRump works for Putin for free; maybe it's a common courtesy in their circle of thieves. JudyM Nov 2019 #8
Ha ha..maybe. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #9
In trump world nothing is free. LakeArenal Nov 2019 #10
Negates client attorney privilege, and any being done in commission of beachbumbob Nov 2019 #11
lawyers can work pro bono and privilege still applies. TeamPooka Nov 2019 #12
You Know I Just Researched This-It Actually Remains Privileged IF... Stallion Nov 2019 #13
You forget the crime-fraud exception. I think Giuliani and Trump are likely screwed. hlthe2b Nov 2019 #18
We should be grateful for Rudy spinbaby Nov 2019 #16
Rudy's a Pro Bonehead Blue Owl Nov 2019 #20

Cirque du So-What

(25,938 posts)
1. Maybe that's his 'insurance policy'
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 05:42 PM
Nov 2019

Rump knows there is no attorney - client privilege, and if Ghouliani is compelled to testify, he'd have to spill his guts or put himself at risk.

euphorb

(279 posts)
4. That doesn't make sense to me.
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 05:50 PM
Nov 2019

State bar rules differ (but only slightly), but I am not aware of any bar rule governing the behavior of an attorney that makes a distinction based on whether the attorney is paid or not. I am on inactive status in Illinois (because I am retired). As such, I am prohibited from practicing law or holding myself out as available to practice law. It doesn't matter whether I do it for free or get paid. The prohibition is absolute. I cannot imagine the New York rule would be different.

Sanity Claws

(21,847 posts)
6. It is different in New York.
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 05:52 PM
Nov 2019

On retirement status, you can provide pro bono services.
He is listed as currently registered in New York State. Go to http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/attorney/AttorneySearch#search_result to check.

Sanity Claws

(21,847 posts)
17. It might be but he would qualify for retirement status
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 09:22 PM
Nov 2019

so why take inactive?
On retirement status, you do not have to continue paying dues. New York does not have an official inactive status but unofficially it refers to the time that the attorney is not actively practicing law. The attorney is excused from CLE requirements while inactive but must continue paying dues. While on this inactive status, one cannot practice law, not even on a pro bono basis.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
19. I see
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 09:56 PM
Nov 2019

Thanks for explaining how New York works.

In one of my states, inactive means you can't hold yourself out as practicing law and don't have to meet CLE requirements, but you also don't have to pay dues. I'm not sure how that differs from retirement status - I haven't checked that.

Sanity Claws

(21,847 posts)
5. He could still be censured even if his status is inactive.
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 05:50 PM
Nov 2019

He is listed as currently registered in New York State. See http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/attorney/AttorneySearch#search_result

I originally said he was not listed. My mistake. I must have spelled his name incorrectly the first time.

JudyM

(29,236 posts)
8. Apparently tRump works for Putin for free; maybe it's a common courtesy in their circle of thieves.
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 06:00 PM
Nov 2019
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
11. Negates client attorney privilege, and any being done in commission of
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 06:55 PM
Nov 2019

a crime will not have executive privilege.

Rudy in a world of hurt, hope it gets worse

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
13. You Know I Just Researched This-It Actually Remains Privileged IF...
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 08:46 PM
Nov 2019

the client thought he was an attorney when the client revealed the privileged information. (At least in Texas). The privilege is actually to protect the client not the attorney and the client gets to decide when to waive it-it can't be waived by the attorney

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