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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 08:54 AM Nov 2019

"The third most corrupt country in the world"...

...is not Ukraine.

That would be surprising, since we heard that claim raised by multiple Republican congress members during the recent rounds of impeachment hearings. Donald Trump himself repeated the claim as a justification to pause approved aid for Ukraine.

The most commonly cited source of public corruption amongst countries is the Corruption Perceptions Index, which measures the 190 recognized countries of the world for public graft.

And if you look at the most recent CPI rankings, the third most corrupt country in the world is Syria. (Only Somalia and South Sudan measure worse.)

Ukraine doesn’t make an appearance until the 60th spot.

Which isn’t anything to brag about, of course. Like most post-Soviet states, corruption is a valid concern in Ukraine.

But 60th is a far cry off from 3rd.

And it appears that Jim Jordan, Donald Trump and company just made that statistic up completely out of thin air. Just made it up altogether.

Which is astonishing. And something you might expect from corrupt officials themselves.

You do know who fared worse on the CPI index than Ukraine?

That’s right—Trump’s “new best friend”, Putin’s Russia was 42nd most corrupt. But I’m sure they’d love to push the false narrative that their southern neighbor was 3rd most corrupt.

And others were glad to repeat it.

The full list can be found here:

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/most-corrupt-countries/

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"The third most corrupt country in the world"... (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2019 OP
Most important point: 5X Nov 2019 #1
Yep. nt Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2019 #5
A lie, you say? UpInArms Nov 2019 #2
Thanks for post and link. Suffice it to say, CPI map overlaps with countries ruled by dictators RestoreAmerica2020 Nov 2019 #3
That's the first thing I thought of ..oh yeah dump where the fuck is Russia and Saudi Arabia on that UniteFightBack Nov 2019 #4
Well that's because "third place" is EVERYONE ELSE according to Trump ck4829 Nov 2019 #6
Crap bdamomma Nov 2019 #7

5X

(3,972 posts)
1. Most important point:
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 09:24 AM
Nov 2019

Trump’s “new best friend”, Putin’s Russia was 42nd most corrupt. But I’m sure they’d love to push the false narrative that their southern neighbor was 3rd most corrupt.

And others were glad to repeat it.

UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
2. A lie, you say?
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 10:07 AM
Nov 2019

And how many people will believe it ...

I am sick to death of this ...

I hate Twitter and twitler ...

That he can so easily disseminate these lies and the giant echo chamber of goprussians endlessly repeat them ....

I live in Orwellian hell

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
3. Thanks for post and link. Suffice it to say, CPI map overlaps with countries ruled by dictators
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 11:55 AM
Nov 2019

... and eerily correlates with top corrupt countries as indexed. (See article @ link, List of Dictatorship Countries 2019.) I'm suprised to find that Russia, Syria, Turkey are not at the top of list. Interested if under reporting occurs; how data is compiled, criteria used--will research further.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/dictatorship-countries&ved=2ahUKEwiY2smJl4PmAhVYj54KHatNDagQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw2M-g-GTVgcvXvOlRg5kILu


 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
4. That's the first thing I thought of ..oh yeah dump where the fuck is Russia and Saudi Arabia on that
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 12:24 PM
Nov 2019

got damn list??? He is so beyond disgusting. History will get the last word on ALL OF THIS.

ck4829

(35,069 posts)
6. Well that's because "third place" is EVERYONE ELSE according to Trump
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 06:58 PM
Nov 2019

So Ukraine would fall into that category in his head.

bdamomma

(63,845 posts)
7. Crap
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 07:10 PM
Nov 2019

that is quite a list...…..scary shit. Rulers who do not give a shit about the people, just mind your business and move along. Fuck that.

I wouldn't like to live in Gilead.

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