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[gordianot]

1. Shoring up the military.

Wonder what he is doing with the biker gangs and police?

[Backseat Driver]

3. Ah yes, let's not forget other well-regulated militias across the land

to include the uniformed National Guard forces in each state (who may be commanded to enter a fray or disaster) by governors or acquired and commanded by the Federal Government) and armed and equipped with many skills.

And the uniformed Coast Guard under Dept Homeland Security and/or Navy; depending on combatant mission
And the newly created to-be-uniformed (can't wait for the fashionistas to decide what their official sidearm will be) Space Force under the Air Force.

Other uniformed but non-combatant military:
United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps (detain and jab?)
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Commissioned Officer Corps
Other ceremonial units of ROTC, state historical militias,

Of course, there's the not-so-well maintained militia/lobbyist/loyalists as well. I.C.E.; Border Patrol, TSA, Forest Rangers, Secret Service, DEA, ATF...Entities like the NRA members whose arguments against gun control include the misapplication of force from all of the above...it's really more worrisome every single day that they may actually have a point while reported domestic gun violence is epidemic as depicted by MSM as civilian domestic and foreign mafia members, ex-lovers, neighborhood gangs, bikers, drug lords, pimps, other secret "enterpreneurs" of justice a.k.a assasins, live what you game social groups, cosplay members, hunters and poachers...and the merely mentally maladjusted...who does that leave???

[erronis]

7. A very scary compendium. Thank you(?) Backseat Driver.

"detain and jab", indeed.

[OhNo-Really]

9. Great addition to the conversation. Thank you

[Mersky]

13. Thank you for posting this here.

[OhNo-Really]

16. New 2010 Directive - Military Contractors & Military can operate ON US SOIL

Department of Defense DIRECTIVE NUMBER 3025.18 December 29, 2010

A DOD Directive is released spelling out how the 480,000 (2010 #s) military troops now stationed IN the US can be used ON AMERICAN SOIL. (Private Military contractors allowed to assist in civil unrest)

https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Portals/9/CG-5R/nsarc/DoDD%203025.18%20Defense%20Support%20of%20Civil%20Authorities.pdf

SUBJECT: Defense Support of Civil Authorities (DSCA)

NUMBER 3025.18

1. PURPOSE. This Directive:

a. Establishes policy and assigns responsibilities for DSCA, also referred to as civil support.

b. Incorporates and cancels DoD Directive (DoDD) 3025.1 and DoDD 3025.15 (References (a) and (b)).

c. Supplements the regulations (in DoDD 5525.5 (Reference (c))) required by section 375 of title 10, United States Code (U.S.C.), (Reference (d)) regarding military support for civilian law enforcement.

d. Provides guidance for the execution and oversight of DSCA when requested by civil authorities or by qualifying entities and approved by the appropriate DoD official, or as directed by the President, within the United States, including the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, and any territory or possession of the United States or any political subdivision thereof.

e. Authorizes immediate response authority for providing DSCA, when requested.

f. Authorizes emergency authority for the use of military force, under dire situations, as described in paragraph 4.i. above the signature of this Directive.

Huge trove of information in the OP link below, although many of the links no longer work. A fascinating read.

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2011/12/05/1042485/-SCARY-Department-of-Defense-DIRECTIVE-NUMBER-3025-18-December-29-2010

[sandensea]

2. The Kissinger wing has done it to other countries so often, it only follows they'd try it here too

Regime change -or, in this case, regime perpetuation - is second nature to those miscreants.

[OhNo-Really]

5. Very disconcerting

[sandensea]

8. And boy, did they find a happy customer in Cheeto

To him, like to Kissinger, the Constitution is an inconvenience.

Something to get around if you can - like the tax code, or marriage vows.

[Mersky]

4. Stunning and thought-provoking OP and thread thus far. Recommended. nt

[OhNo-Really]

6. Thank you ☺️ Just shouting the Alarm 🚨

[Mersky]

12. I have my antenna 📶 up. Am still processing the hearings

Of last week. As specifically relating to your OP, how the subservience to protecting tRump during those hearings against all else we've been through seems like a constant lurch towards dictatorial rule. It's hard to try to look directly at where we're at in the mess of it all. I simply don't know what to say about it with any certainty.

I think you raised some tough questions, and thank goodness, for Backseat Driver's response which teases apart the scope of the matter of the 'military' aligning behind the tRump, and helps me feel a bit more at ease (in that I get a sense of it being like herding cats).







(On further edit: I previously added in the herding cats comment. While cute, the phrase is artful enough and is truly my take on it. Needed to add this edit explanation to convey that I'm being sincere.)

[erronis]

10. Incredible video: "The Rules for Rulers". Thanks for including it in this post.

Direct URL:

[OhNo-Really]

18. Thank you for commenting. I remembered seeing this a few years ago

[3catwoman3]

11. The new acting Secretary of the Navy has a hell...

...of a strange hair style.

[OMGWTF]

14. The men all look weird; just like Traitor Tot.

[Poiuyt]

17. Trump probably thinks it looks bland

[mjvpi]

15. So many times I've had to say, who are you talking about?

"If Trump & his loyalist hadn’t projected their own deeds onto Democrats so often, " This is a great point in the post. I have found, in my life, lyres always think everyone is lying to them. Cheaters are the first to feel cheated. The idea that Obama instigated a military coupe. Just nuts. But when you look at what has just transpired. And then Rick Perry makes the statement that Trump is sent from God. What if the newest heads of the military believe this?

[OhNo-Really]

19. I think they want their armed zealots to believe this. "The Enemy " defined gives justification for

Everything

[Shanti Mama]

20. Wait! NPR story is from 2018

Last edited Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:04 PM - Edit history (1)

I reacted really strongly until I clicked through and saw that.

[OhNo-Really]

21. Thank you. I fixed that. Can't believe I missed that. Too many distractions today

[Mersky]

25. Still a darn good post.

[OhNo-Really]

29. Thanks 😊. Been following this issue

Here’s a 2011 OP
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2011/12/05/1042485/-SCARY-Department-of-Defense-DIRECTIVE-NUMBER-3025-18-December-29-2010

And more history of how we got in this end of Posse Comitatus here

1994 Manual: The Role of Military in Civil Unrest
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2013/6/19/1217276/-1994-Manual-The-Role-of-Military-in-Civil-Unrest

[Mersky]

23. Good catch. While I appreciated the reminder of the July 11, 2018

Delegation of republicans to Moscow, I overlooked that drop in timelines, as I guess, my brain grabbed the significance of the departure of the first of the four, the Marines commandant, on July 11 this year because I associated it with Sondland's testimony about his July 10 exchanges as a Ukrainian delegation paid a visit to the WH.

https://www.npr.org/2019/11/20/778657263/watch-live-sondland-key-impeachment-witness-headlines-wednesday-hearing

Is there a connection between the Ukraine scandal and changes to military leadership? Maybe and maybe not. Is the timing alone against the backdrop of the layers of ratf*ckery that got to me in considering whether republicans and this administration are sliding towards authoritarian ends either by design or bumbling mistakes.

Nonetheless, it’s good you pointed that out. And probably be good for the OP to be edited to reflect this.

On edit: Aha, it’s already been updated! Good deal!

[uponit7771]

22. K&R, Red Don is ... NO DOUBT ... replacing people with those he thinks will comply.

[lpbk2713]

24. No one with a sense of duty, honor, country would work for an asshole like Trump.

Not once they got to know the real Trump.

[C_U_L8R]

26. What's with the Soviet haircuts?

[OhNo-Really]

27. Thank you. LOL literally

[meadowlander]

28. They all look like characters from The Handmaid's Tale.