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NRaleighLiberal

(60,018 posts)
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 10:00 PM Dec 2019

Krugman, NYT "The Party that Ruined the Planet". Paul nails it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/12/opinion/climate-change-republicans.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

The most terrifying aspect of the U.S. political drama isn’t the revelation that the president has abused his power for personal gain. If you didn’t see that coming from the day Donald Trump was elected, you weren’t paying attention.

No, the real revelation has been the utter depravity of the Republican Party. Essentially every elected or appointed official in that party has chosen to defend Trump by buying into crazy, debunked conspiracy theories. That is, one of America’s two major parties is beyond redemption; given that, it’s hard to see how democracy can long endure, even if Trump is defeated.

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But one factor stands out above all others: the fanatical opposition of America’s Republicans, who are the world’s only major climate-denialist party. Because of this opposition, the United States hasn’t just failed to provide the kind of leadership that would have been essential to global action, it has become a force against action.

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But why have Republicans become the party of climate doom? Money is an important part of the answer: In the current cycle Republicans have received 97 percent of political contributions from the coal industry, 88 percent from oil and gas. And this doesn’t even count the wing nut welfare offered by institutions supported by the Koch brothers and other fossil-fuel moguls.

However, I don’t believe that it’s just about the money. My sense is that right-wingers believe, probably correctly, that there’s a sort of halo effect surrounding any form of public action. Once you accept that we need policies to protect the environment, you’re more likely to accept the idea that we should have policies to ensure access to health care, child care, and more. So the government must be prevented from doing anything good, lest it legitimize a broader progressive agenda.

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Unfortunately, that kind of depravity isn’t just present in the modern Republican Party, it has effectively taken over the whole institution. There used to be at least some Republicans with principles; as recently as 2008 Senator John McCain co-sponsored serious climate-change legislation. But those people have either experienced total moral collapse (hello, Senator Graham) or left the party.

The truth is that even now I don’t fully understand how things got this bad. But the reality is clear: Modern Republicans are irredeemable, devoid of principle or shame. And there is, as I said, no reason to believe that this will change even if Trump is defeated next year.

The only way that either American democracy or a livable planet can survive is if the Republican Party as it now exists is effectively dismantled and replaced with something better — maybe with a party that has the same name, but completely different values. This may sound like an impossible dream. But it’s the only hope we have.
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Krugman, NYT "The Party that Ruined the Planet". Paul nails it. (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Dec 2019 OP
Ditto! BigmanPigman Dec 2019 #1
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Dec 2019 #2
Sobering CanonRay Dec 2019 #3
This is why I was bothered to hear one of our prominent candidates say we shouldn't clobber pnwmom Dec 2019 #4
I suspect when that candidate said that, he was fondly remembering a bygone era... FailureToCommunicate Dec 2019 #5
Eisenhower or New Deal Republicans are a distant memory though JonLP24 Dec 2019 #12
Krugman DENVERPOPS Dec 2019 #6
K & R BadgerMom Dec 2019 #7
Absofreakingloutely!!! +1000000000000000 flamingdem Dec 2019 #8
K & R...for truth...nt Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #9
well. Krugman just proved me completely wrong. The NYT is worth keeping, after all. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #10
krugman makes the same mistake they all do - no clue what republican certainot Dec 2019 #11

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
4. This is why I was bothered to hear one of our prominent candidates say we shouldn't clobber
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 10:22 PM
Dec 2019

the other party, because we need the other party to be strong.

Forget that. We need to pulverize them.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,019 posts)
5. I suspect when that candidate said that, he was fondly remembering a bygone era...
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 11:16 PM
Dec 2019

style Republican, not these modern hideous reavers

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
12. Eisenhower or New Deal Republicans are a distant memory though
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 01:42 AM
Dec 2019

Even when that candidate was around Republicans were still awful especially since the Reagan years.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
11. krugman makes the same mistake they all do - no clue what republican
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 01:24 AM
Dec 2019

radio has been doing for 30 years. how the fuck has this happened.money? that is a symptom of a broken democracy

i like krugman's takes on a lot but at $1000/hr, 1200 radio stations doing 15 hrs/day or global warming denial are worth $5 BIL/year FREE and ignored for 30 years by pundits who live in cities. and putin's been using it since at least manafort used limbaugh to push palin on mccain in 2008. and then 'climategate' in 2009, from a russian hack and wikileaks. and we still let 87 + universities support 260 global warming denial radio stations!

it has been a huge lost opportunity for dems to go through all these hearings and not mention the big pile of shit under the living room rug.

every time dems respond to republican bullshit lies they need to preface their corrections with "well, that's what limbaugh has been saying to you for years, but...." and that would be like a 2x4 qcross the head of every republican - almost all those republicans - who know their slimy careers and the trump residency depemd completely on democrats continuing the biggest political mistake in american history - ignoring the republican talk radio monopoly

it is a fact that nearly all of their bullshit comes out of lmbaugh's ass first, and democrats and media need to start following all the connections and point out to the public that putin is feeding rw radio and has been for years

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