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Fiendish Thingy

(15,644 posts)
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:59 PM Dec 2019

Emptywheel: what REAL voters in Grand Rapids think about impeachment

Chuck Todd held a pre-screened "focus group" at a brewery in Grand Rapids that included the head of the GR bar association and other less than average folks. He asked them about impeachment, and got predictably ambiguous-to-anti-impeachment answers.

Marcy Wheeler of the emptywheel blog lives in GR, and went back to the very same brewery, and asked random people about impeachment. She posted the clips, and I highly recommend everyone check them out- very thoughtful answers, not limited by TV news constraints. Even the Conservative's answers were well expressed.

Link:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/12/16/what-real-voters-think-about-impeachment-at-grand-rapids-brewery-vivant/

P.S. I find this especially exciting because Michigan is a swing state, and GR is in Justin Amash's district.

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Emptywheel: what REAL voters in Grand Rapids think about impeachment (Original Post) Fiendish Thingy Dec 2019 OP
This gives me hope, thank you so much for posting. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #1
I found the group woefully uninformed GitRDun Dec 2019 #2
upChuck Toady is representative of tv "news" Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #3
Wary of MSM. moondust Dec 2019 #4
Good cross section of people. Delmette2.0 Dec 2019 #5

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
1. This gives me hope, thank you so much for posting.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 08:11 PM
Dec 2019

In the last video with Mark, it sounded just like Manu Raju, interviewing him. I realize it wasn't, but his voice was very similar.

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
2. I found the group woefully uninformed
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 08:13 PM
Dec 2019

I agree they were much more circumspect about Trump than Chucky Todd and his party of white folks.

I did not hear one person articulate anything about Ukraine.

One guy made reference to foreign interference bothering him.

I just wish the public at large was better informed.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,384 posts)
3. upChuck Toady is representative of tv "news"
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 10:07 PM
Dec 2019

They have, are, and will promote or manufacture controversy to increase profit.

moondust

(20,001 posts)
4. Wary of MSM.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 10:38 PM
Dec 2019

Dumpy is the train wreck that keeps on giving. I'm sure some of them would hate to lose that ongoing train wreck that has made their jobs so easy and profitable the past 4 years.

Delmette2.0

(4,168 posts)
5. Good cross section of people.
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 12:06 PM
Dec 2019

But none of them were totally informed about the House hearings. I understand they all were probably working during the day and had l limited time to follow details. But they all had the jist of at least one issue.

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