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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Big Untold Story of Impeachment? It's Incredibly Popular. - The Atlantic
From The Atlantic article here: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/12/impeachment-incredibly-popular/603661/
A Fox News poll released yesterday found that a full 50 percent of Americans support impeaching and removing Trumpone point up from October. The Fox poll has always been one of the worst for the president on impeachment, but FiveThirtyEights polling average finds plurality support for removal47.7 percent for, 46.4 percent against as of this writinga finding that tracks consistent, slim support. (The site finds even broader support for the impeachment proceedings themselves, at 52.3 to 41.9 percent.) RealClearPolitics average, which is noisier, shows a small plurality opposing removal at this moment, though it was the opposite yesterday. The Economist finds clear plurality support for impeachment as well.
Its worth dwelling on this for a moment: Roughly half the country not only disapproves of Trumps job as president, but believes he ought to be removed from office, a sanction that has never been applied before. And that support comes at a time of (mostly) peace, with the economy (mostly) strong. Theres more support for impeaching Trump now than there was at the equivalent stage in the Watergate scandalright after articles of impeachment were approved by the House Judiciary Committee. Rather than face impeachment, Nixon resigned. (Nixon, however, had far lower approval ratings than Trump does now.)
Most Republicans in both chambers have abdicated their responsibility on impeachment. There is a coherent case to be made, as in the impeachment of Bill Clinton, that the president had made serious errors, but that those errors didnt merit the drastic sanction of impeachment. Some Republicans, especially in the Senate, have said that Trump acted inappropriately but shouldnt be removed. Many others, like Senator Lindsey Graham, have instead repeatedly moved the goalposts, then thrown up their hands and just defended the president unconditionally.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)CentralMass
(16,847 posts)spanone
(140,946 posts)RockRaven
(18,634 posts)Uhhh.... yeah, we know. He's utterly shameless. Like LITERALLY literally shameless. Totally incapable of feeling shame or acting upon that feeling (if by some accident he does feel it) in any way which reflects an acknowledgement of shame.
We've all known. This entire time. Including before he was elected. Including the 63M assholes who voted for him. For a lot of those denizens of Turdistan it was a feature of his candidacy, not a bug. It is part of why they voted for him in the first place.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)dalton99a
(91,908 posts)NewsCenter28
(1,837 posts)Clintons Impeachment rallied the nation behind him for a time also. Check out 538. Well actually dont unless you want to throw up.
uponit7771
(93,471 posts)uponit7771
(93,471 posts)... which that's all we have.
The trial should be interesting in regards to the polls, we'll see
nilram
(3,458 posts)And its those R senators who need convincing by their constituents.
BigmanPigman
(54,540 posts)I realized it while walking back from the rally yesterday. The majority of people are really, really sick and tired of him and all the shit he brings. People are exhausted with the non-stop lies, tweeting, negative news associated with him, etc. Instead of having "tRump fatigue syndrome" like we hear on the media (like they are just tuning him out and don't care) they are tired of HIM and they do care and want to get back to "normal". Those who wanted "change" now want normalcy again.