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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat rock did Lieberman crawl out from I haven't
seen or heard of him for years? Now all of a sudden I have seen him twice this week. Is he angling for a VP job?
CanonRay
(14,103 posts)They dragged him out of his coffin.
doc03
(35,338 posts)How about that. Who knew?
Crunchy Frog
(26,587 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)with working with Rudy and a Iranian faction in Albania that was Lobbying for the removal of Suluimani.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Well, Lieberman's obviously far from dead. Wish I'd known he was becoming such a whackjob when he switched parties in the middle of the presidential election, would have been much happier. It's one thing to support Iran's overthrowing of its theocracy, but delight in Trump's heroic destruction of the Iran nuclear agreement?
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)their are more ex Congressional People involved here. Read the name of Ed Rendel,not surprised he never was or will be a Democrat just a light weight Dino at best.
erlewyne
(1,115 posts)Ari is a favorite of mine. I was shocked when he introduced Lieberrman
near the end of his show. I had a hard time voting for Al Gore and have
not liked him since he chose Lieberrman as VP.
rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)His continued bookings of the worst right wingers and Neo-cons got me to quit watching.
erlewyne
(1,115 posts)and when I posted I noticed I was not and the reply ahead of
mine said Lieberman is about to be exposed. My fleeting thought
was maybe Ari is setting him up? I did not watch it.
Thanks for the reply rogue emissary and I concur. These Neo-cons
and right wingers are hard to watch. I hope to last until Rachel comes
on because she is a relief for the most part, More thought provoking.
Thanks
dem4decades
(11,296 posts)How did i know the best the Republicans could do was to run a pedophile?
Wounded Bear
(58,660 posts)they go to ground for a while, and then suddenly they surface and start spewing talking points on Fox and then get gigs on other channels.
It's kind of maddening and kind of creepy.
dweller
(23,634 posts)and he and Lieberman can do an elf dance around the Keebler cookie tree?
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kysrsoze
(6,021 posts)Why would Melber have this ass on his show?
erlewyne
(1,115 posts)for choosing the Democratic candidate. I have had this vibe
since Reagan. That must be why dumbass Gore chose Lieberrman,
Gore always seemed too Republican for me, and Clinton too
(both of them). But I got President Carter.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)determined to shrink government by cutting programs. Don't know what Lieberman is, was, or will be.
erlewyne
(1,115 posts)He openly voted republican on everything. The Democratic party endorsed
him whereas they bigoted Bernie Sanders who was Independent and sided
with the Democratic Party relentlessly. It is all about money Our hidden
enemy is Wall Street which brings out the hunger for money in everybody.
Lieberrman is a Hawk for war. He has been anti Iranian from the get-go.
Carter was honest. Reagan was a liar.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)People who want big money go into business because that's where it is. As the Republican Party became entirely corrupted, more and more conservatives have been running for office as an entry business job, serve business as long as required and then leave for the payoff of high-paying jobs. But that's hardly all, or even most.
For a lot of those who go into politics it's about ideology. For those whose ideology is about serving the people, it's about public service. For those whose ideology is about the ideology, like Sanders and his socialism, and there are more ideologues than just him, the big passion is embedding the ideology. For those who want power, like Moscow Mitch, the passion's for power.
Sanders and the Clintons, before leaving the WH, were all proven never interested in money by not bothering to accumulate any. Sure, Sanders liked his high paying job well enough to do what he needed to keep it (by voting for Democratic legislation he claimed to despise) for nearly 30 years, but he could have made so much more money if he'd bothered. He didn't.
The Clintons are public service liberals. Only after the presidency in their late 50s, when the Clintons wanted to be able to remain in DC and couldn't begin to afford to, and wanted to start a charitable foundation to build a means of continuing lives of service around, did they look to make money. There were lots of newly ultra wealthy people eager to pay 6 digits for trophy speakers, and they had the big names.
VP Biden is another public service liberal. On entering congress at the age of 29, he decided never to own stocks or bonds to avoid the constant question of conflicts of interest, and he never has. During over 40 years of enormous runup of national and planetary wealth due to greatly increased production, while people all around him became incredibly wealthy, he held to it. It's proven not about money for him, and that's the same for many others of his type.
Moscow Mitch is different, but not because he's in it for personal wealth. He is wealthy now and presides over a party he's helped to embed great corruption in, by money; but for many years it was definitely secondary to power for him. He's famous for a soulless craving for power, not achievements or ideology, just personal power. He's hardly the only one, just extremely successful. He raised millions for decades by selling his influence and used it to elect people to office who'd owe him. He did eventually marry the daughter of one of the Chinese billionaires he's sold his influence to ever since Tiananmen Square. And money has been laundered through marriage ever since.
So, examples. You'll find if you look for it that the vast majority of people who run for office as Democrats are doing it for other reasons, not money. In fact, the idea's more than a little bit of of a joke. Politicians constantly have to raise huge money as donations just to throw it into the sinkhole of keeping their jobs so that they can do or be whatever they actually came for. In politics, the big money-money corruption's all among conservatives, certainly at the national level, and at that it's still usually best by far to skip politics and head straight for the moolah.
Crunchy Frog
(26,587 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)Israel is my guess as Israel considers Iran their top national security threat.