CNN very recent (2:00 a.m) updates regarding the Ukrainian jet tragedy.

[sprinkleeninow]

[This is so heart heavy what happened. I have a not good feeling about the reason for the crash.]

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/iran-plane-crash-investigation/index.html

[applegrove]

1. So many of the passengers were students and young people. So sad.

[Backseat Driver]

3. Yup, what a waste of young potential - many of the Canadians were professors and students

in doctorate university programs - not to mention the very young children - and a newly-wed couple - so very sad! I too share the OP's dark suspicions - also, considert that I thought I read that Putin was lurking (Syria?) then on the way to (Turkey?), and all the more of Dimwit Donny's vanishing lemon juice ink drafts!

[malaise]

6. Apparently it was a wedding party

Too sad no matter how it happened

[sprinkleeninow]

2. Trudeau speaks out on the Ukrainian jet crash...

https://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2020/jan/09/most-iran-crash-victims-were-connecting-to-canada-says-pm-trudeau-video

[BigmanPigman]

4. The pilot didn't notify anyone that there was a problem but

he turned the plane around back to the airport after the problem. Would he have had time to do that if it had been hit by a missile?

[sprinkleeninow]

5. What happened here and the timing is rather suspicious.

I'm believing for a thorough investigation to arrive at the truth. I feel the Ukrainians will not simply settle. I know some personally and they are staunch.

[sprinkleeninow]

7. I thought some footage showed holes in a part of the wreckage as in artillery fire?

What if there was incendiary onboard.

It's just pretty strange. A three year old plane.

[bullwinkle428]

9. Years ago, I read a book on the Korean Airlines jet that was shot down

by the Soviet Union. The missiles had struck one or two of the engines, and the flight crew was trying in vain to maintain control of the aircraft for several minutes as they lost altitude. Unfortunately, the power and hydraulics losses forced an emergency landing into the ocean, and a total loss of all on board.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007

[Omen78]

8. The first question I asked was...

If there was a Ukrainian on board who was willing to testify in the impeachment. Maybe its just coincidence, but given the two major news stories, impeachment and war with Iran, it just seems a little convenient.

Iran does seem culpable in their refusing to turn over the planes black-box, so I may need to put my tinfoil hat away.

[2naSalit]

10. I was wondering the same

about who the passengers might be but I don't blame Iran for not allowing US entities to get involved in the investigation.

[Roland99]

11. From what I read, there were only 1-2 Ukrainians who were not part of the crew

[brooklynite]

13. We have enough conspiracy theories here; we don't need new ones.

[Kid Berwyn]

12. Canada helped sneak US hostages out in 1979.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212855882

[applegrove]

14. Yes and we don't have an embassy in Iran since. We need the help of other

Europeans like Italy's embassy to help people in Iran. We've tried to talk about opening a new one but Iran is having none of it. I hope given such a tragedy, and the obvious close ties between canada and Iranians that this tragedy highlights, they allow us to investigate the crash. We have investigators and also allow foreign investigators in canada after plane crashes.

*Edited to add canada did have an embassy in Iran in the 2000s but Conservative PM Stephen Harper closed it.