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Why does Trump have two black eyes this morning? (Original Post) mia Jan 2020 OP
They didn't blend his concealer very well. onecaliberal Jan 2020 #1
That was my first thought, as well. Ohiogal Jan 2020 #23
Forgot to apply his plexaderm. Cattledog Jan 2020 #2
I always think of Trumpers when I see those ads Dream Girl Jan 2020 #27
Cyanosis? OliverQ Jan 2020 #3
THIS!!!!! Zoonart Jan 2020 #11
Lol - cyan blue Pachamama Jan 2020 #12
Usually evident in lips and nail beds Miguelito Loveless Jan 2020 #83
Someone said at his speech yesterday his OliverQ Jan 2020 #85
Hands look normal. mia Jan 2020 #97
+1, someone spoke of this earlier that Trump needs oxygen uponit7771 Jan 2020 #93
God damn, he looks bad. bearsfootball516 Jan 2020 #4
He does not look like a healthy... 3catwoman3 Jan 2020 #62
It's not from injury. He's just an unhealthy old man. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #5
Also sinus problems (From snorting) can cause dark circles dawg day Jan 2020 #56
He does his hair and makeup himself... 2naSalit Jan 2020 #66
Melania Turbineguy Jan 2020 #6
Trump Family definition of "Be Best" Pachamama Jan 2020 #13
Or, vigorous motorboating about her new set of "kidneys". yonder Jan 2020 #31
"motorboating" Turbineguy Jan 2020 #34
The problem with my theory is his leaky old skow yonder Jan 2020 #39
+1. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2020 #84
LOL! lunatica Jan 2020 #38
... yonder Jan 2020 #65
He's been motorboating Putin's butt cheeks. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2020 #98
Or her new recipes, that have a faint smell of bitter almond? backscatter712 Jan 2020 #58
Smacked himself in the face? HubertHeaver Jan 2020 #7
Here are three more views. Mike 03 Jan 2020 #8
Because he gives his salary to drugs, maybe? greatauntoftriplets Jan 2020 #20
lofl, I heard that and thought he's' on the pills again. uponit7771 Jan 2020 #94
Are those pics real? TheCowsCameHome Jan 2020 #24
Yes they are. boston bean Jan 2020 #61
saw a clip on TV about an hour ago and was stunned by his eyes rurallib Jan 2020 #77
Who is Elaine? NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #30
He clearly looks, sounds sick. But in top photo, both lower area and teeth have blue tinge. Hoyt Jan 2020 #90
Bad attempt to cover up white "raccoon eyes" from bad orange make-up job? jpak Jan 2020 #9
Without a truama... Newest Reality Jan 2020 #10
He maybe abused the adderall too much last night, pr pther substances, duforsure Jan 2020 #48
That looks like it may be the case... Newest Reality Jan 2020 #50
speaking of this when is he completing the other "PARTS" of his physical ? Captain Zero Jan 2020 #73
He's transforming into a demon? TwilightZone Jan 2020 #14
Given himself over to Dormammu? gratuitous Jan 2020 #42
Got the eye shadow below and not above his eyes? TruckFump Jan 2020 #15
To my knowledge, the news media didn't mention the slurring, sniffing etc. ... nature-lover Jan 2020 #16
Agreed. My radar was up for any mention of that and didn't see anything either. yonder Jan 2020 #29
Maybe he has FarPoint Jan 2020 #17
Stop teasing me malaise Jan 2020 #91
Just do a Google search... look at image option.... FarPoint Jan 2020 #95
Because he doesn't. The sclera would be red/discolored, for a start. Maru Kitteh Jan 2020 #18
+1 onenote Jan 2020 #36
IMPEACHMENT BAGS, BABY Leghorn21 Jan 2020 #37
impeachment bags Catherine Vincent Jan 2020 #78
My Dr. Mom opinion is that Trump is a really sick man, physically, mentally and emotionally, Arkansas Granny Jan 2020 #19
He hasn't taken his daily dump yet. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2020 #21
Yup shanti Jan 2020 #41
Press Briefing twit saidsimplesimon Jan 2020 #49
so that's why he's gargling his words eShirl Jan 2020 #92
Cyanosis and the shortness of breath he exhibited last night indicate... Pacifist Patriot Jan 2020 #22
Could be a lot of causes. Stress. Lack of Sleep. Too much salt in the diet. icymist Jan 2020 #25
so high he fell on his face... Thomas Hurt Jan 2020 #26
Frodo wouldn't let him hold The Precious? JHB Jan 2020 #28
That looks like eyes that were crying for hours. GemDigger Jan 2020 #32
Wow. blue neen Jan 2020 #33
Did some googling canetoad Jan 2020 #35
He looks unwell DesertRat Jan 2020 #40
!!!!!!!!!!!!! H2O Man Jan 2020 #47
Dayum! Wawannabe Jan 2020 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jan 2020 #43
Mascara ran when he cried for his mommy. sinkingfeeling Jan 2020 #44
This is why - hahaha OhZone Jan 2020 #45
All his evil Faux pas Jan 2020 #46
He was up all night vlyons Jan 2020 #51
He Tried To Grab The Wrong Woman By The P***y nt smb Jan 2020 #52
Adderall cilla4progress Jan 2020 #53
He suffers from a little known disease called.... guillaumeb Jan 2020 #54
Yep - he's doing regular racoon instead of reverse-racoon this time. backscatter712 Jan 2020 #57
He honestly looks very physically ill. SweetieD Jan 2020 #55
Maybe he's drinking/snorting 409? MontanaMama Jan 2020 #59
His tongue looks sort of blue too Piasladic Jan 2020 #60
Im all for a lack of oxygen MFM008 Jan 2020 #87
Grima Miller's work is almost complete ... mr_lebowski Jan 2020 #63
Wormtongue EveHammond13 Jan 2020 #67
Wormtongue is Stephen Miller blugbox Jan 2020 #70
Drug usage. arthritisR_US Jan 2020 #64
This nurse says he was sedated DesertRat Jan 2020 #68
Ahh! That makes sense! Karma13612 Jan 2020 #71
The speech was disturbing to hear DesertRat Jan 2020 #72
So basically, right now he's tweaking. backscatter712 Jan 2020 #75
I wonder whatever happened to Dr. Harold Bornstein DesertRat Jan 2020 #89
On a positive note, the color of his eyebags matched his suit! Buns_of_Fire Jan 2020 #81
That's what I thought wryter2000 Jan 2020 #96
He tried to put a move on Melania last night. 11 Bravo Jan 2020 #69
Adderall abuse. ElementaryPenguin Jan 2020 #74
OMG, Trump has eyes that resemble FDR's -- right before he died. no_hypocrisy Jan 2020 #76
One can hope... backscatter712 Jan 2020 #80
They have to pump him full of Viagra doc03 Jan 2020 #79
cant this man ever use a mirror samnsara Jan 2020 #82
Looks like pockets of blood! Wawannabe Jan 2020 #86

3catwoman3

(23,995 posts)
62. He does not look like a healthy...
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 03:39 PM
Jan 2020

...person because he isn't.

I don't know why he has kicked the bucket yet.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
5. It's not from injury. He's just an unhealthy old man.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:15 PM
Jan 2020

It's probably from a combination of fatigue and fluid retention.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
56. Also sinus problems (From snorting) can cause dark circles
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 03:15 PM
Jan 2020

I think he must not use a makeup person but do it himself. No professional would be so slapdash.

2naSalit

(86,634 posts)
66. He does his hair and makeup himself...
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 03:51 PM
Jan 2020

and those bags under his eyes can mean intestinal trouble; heart trouble; kidney trouble. His sniffing and snorking is what a person with sinuses full of drugs and they are trying to control the snot from running out their nose and keep from swallowing it at the same time. His nose is also very swollen. The snorking is done through partially clenched teeth. He's definitely hoovering up some dust before performances.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
38. LOL!
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 02:27 PM
Jan 2020

The mental picture of those two having fun sex is crazy hysterical! Thanks for the laugh. I had to look it up so thanks for adding to my vernacular vocabulary!

rurallib

(62,416 posts)
77. saw a clip on TV about an hour ago and was stunned by his eyes
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 05:02 PM
Jan 2020

I thought it was makeup (why purple?) but my wife said it wasn't

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
90. He clearly looks, sounds sick. But in top photo, both lower area and teeth have blue tinge.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 06:42 PM
Jan 2020

I think it's more the light giving a blue tinge.

But, notwithstanding, he's not well, physically or mentally.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
10. Without a truama...
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:16 PM
Jan 2020

If there was no trauma to cause that, then it may to do with spontaneous broken blood vessels due to a disorder. It happens also with leukemia, and from certain allergies can bring on an "allergy shiner" which is different.

Or, too many huge lines of that Adderall crush last night, maybe? A blow out!

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
48. He maybe abused the adderall too much last night, pr pther substances,
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 02:54 PM
Jan 2020

Then maybe they had to get him down with a tranquilizer shot. He looks like he's on the brink of another medical event, maybe much worse than the last one. You can see he's ill now.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
50. That looks like it may be the case...
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 03:00 PM
Jan 2020

It's like he is ready to blow, from the breathing to the slurs and so forth.

Captain Zero

(6,806 posts)
73. speaking of this when is he completing the other "PARTS" of his physical ?
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 04:53 PM
Jan 2020

The one he started on early on a weekend morning last year?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
42. Given himself over to Dormammu?
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 02:31 PM
Jan 2020

He's starting to look like Mads Mikkelson in the Dr. Strange movie.

These pictures aren't going to sit well with Trump, who is incredibly vain about his appearance. Look for some bullshit excuse about how fluorescent lights make his complexion look different from every other person on the planet.

nature-lover

(1,469 posts)
16. To my knowledge, the news media didn't mention the slurring, sniffing etc. ...
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jan 2020

Will they talk about this? Is there an agreement in the media that reporting on these obvious health related issues is off limits?

malaise

(269,005 posts)
91. Stop teasing me
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jan 2020

Please please please.

I thought it was Hillary who didn't have six months left back in 2016!

FarPoint

(12,397 posts)
95. Just do a Google search... look at image option....
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 07:04 PM
Jan 2020

Puffy eyes and kidney disease... protein metabolism issues...eye edema..His looks awful...just saying...

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
18. Because he doesn't. The sclera would be red/discolored, for a start.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:32 PM
Jan 2020

The eyes would be swollen shut or mostly shut.

He doesn't have black eyes in the sense of an injury, he just has big old impeachment bags and really shitty lighting.


Arkansas Granny

(31,517 posts)
19. My Dr. Mom opinion is that Trump is a really sick man, physically, mentally and emotionally,
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:37 PM
Jan 2020

and it's being kept from the public. Republicans don't have anyone else to run that can possibly beat the Democratic nominee this election cycle so they've got to stick with Trump or go down big time. It's beginning to look like "Weekend at Bernie's".

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
49. Press Briefing twit
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 02:59 PM
Jan 2020

"White House toilets, 15 flushes, but today feels like a major eruption. It's Obama's fault for approving normal plumbing. "

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
22. Cyanosis and the shortness of breath he exhibited last night indicate...
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:39 PM
Jan 2020

low oxygen levels. Mineral Man pointed that out yesterday in a post speculating about Trump's health. Whatever the cause, the man is very obviously not healthy. At all.

icymist

(15,888 posts)
25. Could be a lot of causes. Stress. Lack of Sleep. Too much salt in the diet.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:50 PM
Jan 2020

Crying. Sinus problems. Age. Genes. Bottom line: Not a healthy man.

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
32. That looks like eyes that were crying for hours.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 02:16 PM
Jan 2020

And he should be because we will have no mercy on that sob.

canetoad

(17,161 posts)
35. Did some googling
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 02:21 PM
Jan 2020

And I hope anyone with even the slightest real medical knowledge will correct this if wrong....

Medical term for this: Periorbital dark circles

Per Wiki, caused by:
-Allergies, asthma, and eczema
-Medications
-Anemia
-Fatigue
-Age
-Sun exposure

Any medications that cause blood vessels to dilate can cause circles under the eyes to darken. Because the skin under the eyes is very delicate, any increased blood flow shows through the skin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periorbital_dark_circles


Medications that dilate blood vessels:
https://www.medicinenet.com/vasodilators_drug_class_side_effects_list_of_names/article.htm

High blood pressure (hypertension)
Congestive heart failure (CHF)
Cardiac pain or heart pain (angina)
Prevention of stroke
Prevention of a heart attack
Prevention of heart failure after a heart attack
High blood pressure in pregnant women (Preeclampsia)
High blood pressure in the lungs (pulmonary hypertension)
Diabetic nephropathy
Raynaud's syndrome
Cardiomyopathy
Subarachnoid hemorrhage

There's hope yet.

Response to mia (Original post)

Faux pas

(14,681 posts)
46. All his evil
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 02:47 PM
Jan 2020

catching up with him, the opposite of dorian gray. I keep focusing on the black gunk between his lower teeth.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
54. He suffers from a little known disease called....
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 03:10 PM
Jan 2020
racoonitis.

It causes swelling under the eyes, and severe shrinkage of a vital organ.

The brain, of course.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
68. This nurse says he was sedated
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 04:19 PM
Jan 2020
@kelnoland2020
I have worked with sedated seniors. I was the Wellness Nurse at a retirement community.

Trump was on sedation yesterday. Cotton mouth, his affect was seriously impaired.
Why?
If he needs that level of sedation to cope, he has no business being POTUS


Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
71. Ahh! That makes sense!
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 04:34 PM
Jan 2020

So, yesterday he gave that speech about the assasination, and the fact that everything was ‘under control’. I was listening as I worked in my studio. I was not watching any video. I recognized that he was very controlled and scripted. I knew he was “on something” since he wasn’t going off on any of his normal tangents.

Now, today, for this presser, he is back to his old wacko riffing and meandering style. And his under eye bags are blue.

Yup, it’s either from him being back on his prefered meds, or he is detoxing from the meds he was on yesterday. Or both.

This is our freaking President! My gawd, I haven’t felt safe since he was elected.

#Impeach2020 #VoteBlue2020

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
72. The speech was disturbing to hear
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 04:46 PM
Jan 2020

And worse to watch. He was gripping the podium, swaying and making weird tongue movements.






backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
75. So basically, right now he's tweaking.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 04:57 PM
Jan 2020

He's been snorting the Adderall so much that he can't get high anymore, so he takes more and more and more. He probably hasn't had a wink of sleep in a week.

Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States...

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
89. I wonder whatever happened to Dr. Harold Bornstein
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 06:05 PM
Jan 2020

Remember when he, Donnie's physician since 1980, famously stated that DT has "extraordinary stamina and physical strength and would be the healthiest person ever elected president."

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
69. He tried to put a move on Melania last night.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 04:27 PM
Jan 2020

Pretending to be a wartime President plus 200 milligrams of Cialis had him feeling frisky.
She apparently wasn't in the mood to be pawed by those tiny little mitts.

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