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Rachel Maddow called out NYT for biased coverage of Hillary Clinton (Original Post) Gothmog Jan 2020 OP
hardly limited to the NYT mnmoderatedem Jan 2020 #1
Chuck Todd, Andrea Mitchell and Jake Tapper all pompously.. Kahuna7 Jan 2020 #4
Yes, I especially remember Andrea's breathless reporting on Hillary's emails. SunSeeker Jan 2020 #44
Mitchell was so proud that she made it an issue in the first place when... Kahuna7 Jan 2020 #64
Yes, Hillary had nothing to apologize for! It was infuriating to watch all that go down. SunSeeker Jan 2020 #67
Yes, but as Rachel pointd out, the NYT led the charge. nt GoCubsGo Jan 2020 #12
Like the Iraq war lame54 Jan 2020 #35
The media is being used as a weapon for trump duforsure Jan 2020 #2
this BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2020 #58
All biases against all candidates, not just Hillary Clinton, need to be called out. Quemado Jan 2020 #3
+1000 Oh, the global moneylanders fear and hate him so much. ancianita Jan 2020 #6
A blackout, to the extent it exists, is not nearly as bad spooky3 Jan 2020 #16
Oh please. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #29
Yep uponit7771 Jan 2020 #41
I watched the story about McCarthy last night on PBS. rickyhall Jan 2020 #5
And Wisconsin elected him again after he was exposed as an alcoholic liar. Scruffy1 Jan 2020 #50
The Book Clinton Cash was based on lies too! MartyTheGreek Jan 2020 #7
The right famously tries to destroy the reputation of rainy Jan 2020 #8
Excellent post. tavernier Jan 2020 #15
With the help of papers of record like the NYT uponit7771 Jan 2020 #42
Without a doubt they destroyed Hillary Clinton's reputation on purpose. UCmeNdc Jan 2020 #9
Exactly! justie18 Jan 2020 #11
Thank you Rachel Maddow!!! oasis Jan 2020 #10
Yes Rachel - now call out NBC and the rest of broadcast media! FakeNoose Jan 2020 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #14
Devastating report by Maddow. What NYT did to spooky3 Jan 2020 #17
The NYT's hits on Hillary were deliberate. Lonestarblue Jan 2020 #18
That bastard is the one who called her a "congenital liar." calimary Jan 2020 #66
For this thread Gothmog Jan 2020 #19
The New York Times has something wrong with it Gothmog Jan 2020 #20
Saw that last night 2naSalit Jan 2020 #21
I love the Rachel Maddow Show Gothmog Jan 2020 #31
This is long overdue and, I hope, a warning for 2020 Greybnk48 Jan 2020 #22
Good for Rachel NCProgressive Jan 2020 #23
awesome segment. nt BootinUp Jan 2020 #24
with numerous sourced examples, no less. Jamastiene Jan 2020 #25
K&R pandr32 Jan 2020 #26
Shades of Judith Miller. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #27
We are dating ourselves by admitting that we know of this lady Gothmog Jan 2020 #32
+1 dalton99a Jan 2020 #33
It will be interesting to see if there is any response from the NYT dlk Jan 2020 #28
Currently there's a rat at the WP attacking Rachel and anyone connected with OnDoutside Jan 2020 #30
Who is that? comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #40
Erik Wemple of the WP has been trying to dirty anything Steele Dossier OnDoutside Jan 2020 #60
Thanks for the info... comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #62
What Dossier? N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #56
There's a second dossier ? OnDoutside Jan 2020 #61
WaPo media critic Eric Wemple's opinion columns are sometimes cited by Fox lapucelle Jan 2020 #63
+1000 OnDoutside Jan 2020 #65
NYTimes,the paper of record for anything Wellstone ruled Jan 2020 #34
Good job, TRMS. moondust Jan 2020 #36
and it was proud patriot Jan 2020 #37
That was a great segment! R B Garr Jan 2020 #38
Snarky Columnist at NYT dem in texas Jan 2020 #39
same here Raven123 Jan 2020 #51
do you mean Maureen Dowd? She is still there. nt spooky3 Jan 2020 #53
The problem is that Liberals have a love affair with the media, esp. the NYT Yavin4 Jan 2020 #43
They thought Hillary could withstand it. And they needed the clicks. SunSeeker Jan 2020 #45
Good for Maddow, We need a trusth teller these days. Pepsidog Jan 2020 #46
I watched the piece and it was a thing of beauty. BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #47
And only LoveMyCali Jan 2020 #48
Fine, but MSNBC went full Wag the Dog for Trump's distraction killing of Iranian Prof.Higgins Jan 2020 #49
Watch the movie Hunting the President on Amazon Prime Darwin2019 Jan 2020 #52
See Rob Reiner film 'Shock and Awe' about NYT propaganda for W's Iraq invasion in which Prof.Higgins Jan 2020 #54
Liberal watchdog of the liberal media/press Bob Somerby called out the NYT in real time, lapucelle Jan 2020 #55
The New York Times is a greatly over-rated Newspaper. NNadir Jan 2020 #57
Let's also not forget the people on this board who also spread the lies. Stand and Fight Jan 2020 #59
Opinion: Hillary Clinton is the most exonerated politician ever Gothmog Jan 2020 #68
WaPo is a far better newspaper Turin_C3PO Jan 2020 #71
The NYT is not a reliable source Gothmog Jan 2020 #69
I turned on Morning JoeScum this morning hoping for coverage of malaise Jan 2020 #70

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
4. Chuck Todd, Andrea Mitchell and Jake Tapper all pompously..
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 07:58 AM
Jan 2020

denounced Clinton for daring to get money to help desperate people in dire straits.

SunSeeker

(51,715 posts)
44. Yes, I especially remember Andrea's breathless reporting on Hillary's emails.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 04:50 PM
Jan 2020

That look of serious concern on her face, like she was reporting that Hillary committed a crime, when in fact Hillary had not even violated State Department policy.

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
64. Mitchell was so proud that she made it an issue in the first place when...
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:50 AM
Jan 2020

she got Hillary to apologize for doing so. Of course, Hillary only apologized to get Mitchell etals to shut up about it...which they never did.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
2. The media is being used as a weapon for trump
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 07:18 AM
Jan 2020

And the media shows his lies and claims they know aren't true for profits. Until they stop showing him promote propaganda he'll just keep doing this. Showing his tweets is promoting him too because they replace the news he want to hide, or reduce coverage of it.

Quemado

(1,262 posts)
3. All biases against all candidates, not just Hillary Clinton, need to be called out.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 07:41 AM
Jan 2020

For one thing, the media blackout on Bernie Sanders.

spooky3

(34,481 posts)
16. A blackout, to the extent it exists, is not nearly as bad
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:30 AM
Jan 2020

As repeatedly hyping baseless or outright false stories.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
29. Oh please.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 12:48 PM
Jan 2020

What a fucking joke to even try to compare the two.

The media has not gone out of their way to destroy Sanders. He has had a fucking cakewalk. You guys will really start freaking out if they actually start vetting him.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
5. I watched the story about McCarthy last night on PBS.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:03 AM
Jan 2020

Press did exactly the same thing with him. Kept him in the limelight and printed his false accusations, even those on Truman. All seemed so familiar and they talked about Roy Cohen, sorry Cohn, who mentored IMPOTUS. So dump is just 2 steps away from McCarthy...

Scruffy1

(3,257 posts)
50. And Wisconsin elected him again after he was exposed as an alcoholic liar.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:35 PM
Jan 2020

We've seen the same voters wearing maga hats today. They hardly ever admit they were wrong. The NYT led the charge into Iraq and fired a Pulizer winning journalist necause he refused to go along with fraud. The NYT tells enough of the truth about small things so that they are believed when the tell the big lie.
The only answer to the whole corporate press is to be vigillant and ready to counterpunch when they spread misinformation.

MartyTheGreek

(567 posts)
7. The Book Clinton Cash was based on lies too!
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:17 AM
Jan 2020

Many of my magas cite Clinton cash as "they all do it." The publisher made the Breightbart funded author make major corrections to the ebook, but the print book with lies sold like hot cakes.

Maybe we need to hold a debunked Clinton Cash book burning with none other than Hillary lighting the fire? Publicize it! Hell, ride an escalator down to the burn floor carrying a torch! Make it Huge! Play their game!

rainy

(6,095 posts)
8. The right famously tries to destroy the reputation of
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:26 AM
Jan 2020

democratic leaders.They are pretty successful at their vicious attempts. They beat up Hillary for decades. Purple band aided, swift-boated John Kerry, had special prosecutor, Ken Starr hound Clinton for 8 years with their BS stories constantly in the news to sully another Democrats reputation. Al Franken got way too much press over maybe slight inappropriate touching many years ago?

Jimmy Carter.

Help me out here there are so many more examples.

Then they have this power to elevate their own amongst real scandals. Ronald Regan had a whole committee dedicated to doing just that and practically erased the whole Iran contra thing.

George Bush, media covered up so much with him, let him get away with so much.

tavernier

(12,406 posts)
15. Excellent post.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:27 AM
Jan 2020

Most recently they are attempting to destroy Pelosi. My kids live in Indiana and they are anti Trump, but I’ve heard them both talk about “that Pelosi and the things she’s done.” I asked them to explain what they disliked, and they couldn’t point to anything other than they couldn’t stand her personality. I’m certain that those opinions were formed in a state whose citizens are drowned in Fox noise and a republican press where she is always shown as a screeching shrew. They are on the right side as they know that Trump is is an ignorant and dangerous man, but the republicans and the media are so good at blurring the lines, that even smart people are confused.

UCmeNdc

(9,601 posts)
9. Without a doubt they destroyed Hillary Clinton's reputation on purpose.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:33 AM
Jan 2020

There is no way to deny it was a campaign designed to ruin her reputation. Why not call it what it is? Ask The NY Times why?

justie18

(169 posts)
11. Exactly!
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:36 AM
Jan 2020

Bravo to Rachel for covering the exoneration of Hillary and ending with the role played by the NYT. When will the NYT apologize?

FakeNoose

(32,770 posts)
13. Yes Rachel - now call out NBC and the rest of broadcast media!
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:19 AM
Jan 2020

I've been hoping for 3 years that Rachel would finally do this.

Response to Gothmog (Original post)

spooky3

(34,481 posts)
17. Devastating report by Maddow. What NYT did to
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:34 AM
Jan 2020

Clinton was horribly unfair to her and a complete breakdown of its obligation to the public. They owe her (and us) a page one apology and a thorough internal investigation and shakeup to determine how this biased and inaccurate reporting was allowed to proceed and repeatedly given front page space.

Lonestarblue

(10,082 posts)
18. The NYT's hits on Hillary were deliberate.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:00 AM
Jan 2020

In the 1990s, William Safire wrote multiple columns accusing the Clintons of everything imaginable. I remember reading that he was appalled that a “hillbilly” like Clinton has been elected, and he was allowed to use the NYT for a vendetta against both Clintons. He was especially outraged that Hillary was an involved First Lady rather than a dressed-up mannikin on display only for state dinners. I think Safire was typical of a generation that believed that women should rarely be seen and never dare to speak on a serious topic (like health care). The NYT has never been fair to the Clintons, and I assume the Sulzberger family approved the coverage then and now.

calimary

(81,500 posts)
66. That bastard is the one who called her a "congenital liar."
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 02:53 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Sun Jan 12, 2020, 03:31 PM - Edit history (3)

Since then, I’ve enjoyed turning his meme on him, and all his other fellow fiends, Clinton-hating knuckledraggers, and other kindred spirits on the far right.

trump, now, is the Poster Child for congenital liars. Safire would be proud. His work gave a voice to Clinton hatred, and helped beget the rise of trump.

I still can’t help but suspect that hatred stemmed directly from that side’s opinion that George HW bush had some “divine right” to two terms. But then along came this upstart “hillbilly” from outta nowhere (“Arkansas???? WTF????”) who had the gall to challenge the “royal” bush “entitlement” to two terms of rulership. And worse - to win it away from him and deprive him of his “rightful” place on the “throne.”

And my suspicions get weirder than that.

It strikes me that the GOP has a complex about “divine right leadership.” I think it developed from the era of the Kennedys - who were often referred to as “America’s Royal Family.” Oh but the HORROR! The OUTRAGE! That’s OUR “divine right”! God wants OUR party to rule!

And along come the Bushes with their own multigenerational photos and their northeastern patrician pedigrees, and “Well, then! NOW yer talk in’!” Heck, screw Hyannisport Massachusetts (where the Kennedy family compound famously was located). WE have Kennebunkport Maine! And OUR Bush Family Compound!

That’s just my musing but the psychological shit I see, and have watched, playing out from all those dynamics over the years leads me to this analysis.

Greybnk48

(10,176 posts)
22. This is long overdue and, I hope, a warning for 2020
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:38 AM
Jan 2020

to media outfits that decide to become corporate whores instead of journalists. To legitimize Steve Bannon's Breitbart vomit on their front page, among so many other things.

They were not the only ones, but seemed to lead the charge of false accusations and propaganda against Hillary. In doing so they legitimized it, and have sullied themselves in the process just like everything that touches Donald Trump/Republicans.

dlk

(11,578 posts)
28. It will be interesting to see if there is any response from the NYT
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 12:48 PM
Jan 2020

The Times has certainly shown a rabid bias against Clinton. Let’s see if they have a shred of journalistic integrity after being rightly called out on it.

OnDoutside

(19,972 posts)
60. Erik Wemple of the WP has been trying to dirty anything Steele Dossier
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 03:32 AM
Jan 2020

related, and did an entire column attacking Maddow. It was so in WaPo like, that it really stood out, and repeated a lot of rwnj talking points.

lapucelle

(18,338 posts)
63. WaPo media critic Eric Wemple's opinion columns are sometimes cited by Fox
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:12 AM
Jan 2020

because they are bias confirming. The very fact that Wemple seems obsessed with the Steele dossier is telling as to where his loyalties probably lie.



 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
34. NYTimes,the paper of record for anything
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 01:51 PM
Jan 2020

Political. Their Editorial Board tends to be very ultra conservative which lines up with their major owner Slim.

Saddfire was one of the first to brutalize Hillary and it was not stop. The Times association financially with Morgan Chase Mellon Money people seemed to be the driving force.

Always seems to be a connection between a Arkansas association of Old Oil Money and bogus Clinton Stories.

moondust

(20,006 posts)
36. Good job, TRMS.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 02:05 PM
Jan 2020

There's probably more still that hasn't been fully reported. Like why didn't his "hometown paper"--most likely to know or be able to investigate his history--spend time during the campaign exposing his corruption in NYC such as dealing with Russian mobsters, screwing contractors and other examples of getting people over a barrel and sticking it to them, racism, fraud, Epstein connections, sexual predation, extramarital affairs, drug use, tax evasion, etc.? There could be more than that. Did Wall Street "convince" NYT executives to stand down "for the good of the city/state/markets"?

Instead they chased imaginary squirrels.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
39. Snarky Columnist at NYT
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 03:38 PM
Jan 2020

There used to be a female writer at the NYT who wrote a regular column mostly making fun of Hillary. NYT thought this passed as humor. I got so sick of seeing her mean and snarky comments on Hillary that I canceled my NYT subscription.

Yavin4

(35,446 posts)
43. The problem is that Liberals have a love affair with the media, esp. the NYT
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 04:04 PM
Jan 2020

Liberals and Democrats need to be as hard on the media as the right is. They need to call them out and shame them when they're wrong.

SunSeeker

(51,715 posts)
45. They thought Hillary could withstand it. And they needed the clicks.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 04:53 PM
Jan 2020

They thought Hillary was indestructible, like our democracy. They were wrong, on both counts.

Prof.Higgins

(194 posts)
49. Fine, but MSNBC went full Wag the Dog for Trump's distraction killing of Iranian
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:17 PM
Jan 2020

evildoer this week. The same three reporters were interviewed by Maddow, O'Donnell and Brian Williams. However none of these correspondents knew anything beyond what the three hosts had reported in their introductory segments. EPIC fail, MSNBC.

Darwin2019

(217 posts)
52. Watch the movie Hunting the President on Amazon Prime
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:46 PM
Jan 2020

If you want to recall another phase of Clinton bashing and misuse of the FBI and the judicial system.

Prof.Higgins

(194 posts)
54. See Rob Reiner film 'Shock and Awe' about NYT propaganda for W's Iraq invasion in which
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:32 PM
Jan 2020

the McClatchy syndicate Washington bureau digs out the truth. When one of McClatchy's own newspapers keeps printing NYT propaganda by Judith Miller etc, the Washington bureau's Editor berates them with: "When the NYT is forced to make its apology for this, are you going to write your own or just print the NYT apology?" Excellent biographical film of resolute McClatchy Editor played by Rob Reiner.

lapucelle

(18,338 posts)
55. Liberal watchdog of the liberal media/press Bob Somerby called out the NYT in real time,
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:38 PM
Jan 2020

as well as Chris Hayes.

ALLEGEDLY LIBERAL PUNDITS REACT: Chris Hayes vouched for the work of the Times!
FRIDAY, MAY 8, 2015


Part 5—His guest had already been fooled: Early on the morning of Thursday, April 23, the New York Times’ new “bombshell report” appeared on line.

That’s the way Chris Hayes described the report on his cable program that night. You could almost say that the affable youngster was observing “the New York Times rules.”

According to those unwritten rules, members of the upper-end press corps aren’t allowed to tell the truth about the patterns and practices of major mainstream news orgs like the Times. In a larger sense, they know they mustn’t discuss the actual way the upper-end press corps works.

http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/search?q=clinton+cash+new+york+times

NNadir

(33,561 posts)
57. The New York Times is a greatly over-rated Newspaper.
Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:42 PM
Jan 2020

Their science, in particular, is terrible, especially when it comes to climate change.

Stand and Fight

(7,480 posts)
59. Let's also not forget the people on this board who also spread the lies.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 02:37 AM
Jan 2020

It went way beyond it being a primary, because it occurred before and during 2016. It continues today. It’s as disgusting as ever. It was never just the media or just the right. Many on the left lend credence to this bullshit when they pedal right wing talking points based on list here and elsewhere across the web.

Gothmog

(145,567 posts)
68. Opinion: Hillary Clinton is the most exonerated politician ever
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 05:05 PM
Jan 2020



The hordes of right-wing media pundits and columnists will not fess up for pushing a blatantly false narrative. Because they are held to such a low standard by legitimate media outlets, the voices in the right-wing echo chamber pay no price for joining in the persecution of Trump’s nemesis.

“One of the most common tools of autocrats around the world is to use law enforcement as a weapon to go after political opponents,” explains Ian Bassin, executive director of the nonpartisan organization Protect Democracy, which has litigated against Trump’s unconstitutional actions. “That this misguided investigation has been brought to an end is a sign the walls of our system are still holding; that it was allowed to happen at all is a sign that Trump’s constant pounding at those walls is producing cracks." Bassin adds, “With a president who has boasted wrongly that he can do ‘whatever he wants’ with the Justice Department, we can’t afford to just hope that sanity prevails the next time — and there will be a next time.”

Former Clinton adviser (herself a victim of the WikiLeaks email hacks) and president of the Center for American Progress Neera Tanden says, “The full exoneration of Hillary has been a long time coming. But apparently, we have longer to wait for full accountability for the media’s coverage and entire lack of proportion of these ‘scandals.’” She added, “This isn’t academic as we already see signs of the same kind irresponsible coverage again in 2020. It’s ironic that institutions that demand accountability of others offer so little of it for their own mistakes.”

Let’s not forget the Justice Department itself went along with a baseless investigation. DOJ, as even Comey did, should have the decency to affirm publicly the absence of criminal conduct. However, this is the Trump Justice Department, so Clinton should not hold her breath.

“It’s deeply concerning that DOJ may have been used as a political tool for the president-conducting yet another investigation into Hillary Clinton, absent predication,” says former federal prosecutor Joyce White Vance. “When the time comes to do the work necessary to restore and strengthen democratic institutions, defining DOJ’s independence from political interference in conducting criminal investigations will be a priority.”

Turin_C3PO

(14,071 posts)
71. WaPo is a far better newspaper
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 07:10 PM
Jan 2020

than the NYT. I realized this last year and cancelled my subscription to the Times.

malaise

(269,182 posts)
70. I turned on Morning JoeScum this morning hoping for coverage of
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 07:05 PM
Jan 2020

Hillary Clinton being exonerated again and for the two of them to apologize for spreading the BD during the campaign. Up to when I left for our morning walk I heard not a word.

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