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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 09:49 AM Jan 2020

Trump approved Soleimani killing in mid-2019, days after signing defense pact w/ UAE



Seth Abramson ✔ @SethAbramson

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BREAKING NEWS: Trump Approved Soleimani Assassination in mid-2019, Days After Signing New Defense Pact With UAE, Which Appears to Have Wanted Soleimani Dead Since (at the Latest) UAE Agent/Trump Adviser Erik Prince Told Trump He Should Be Killed in mid-2015 (See Pinned Thread)

MSNBC ✔ @MSNBC

President Trump authorized the killing of Iran's Gen. Soleimani seven months ago if Iran's increased aggression resulted in the death of an American, current and former senior administration officials say. https://on.msnbc.com/2NlFsSi


Seth Abramson ✔ @SethAbramson

PS/ I find it as significant that the conversation within the administration about assassinating Soleimani started shortly after Trump entered office in 2017, underscoring it was part of his Iran policy from the beginning, that is, right after UAE helped him gain the White House.

7:29 AM - Jan 13, 2020


For more context, see: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212865347
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Trump approved Soleimani killing in mid-2019, days after signing defense pact w/ UAE (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 OP
As I suspected . . . Iliyah Jan 2020 #1
It was a hit. Trump might very well have set up Soleimani by getting a Saudi and the P.M. of ... Botany Jan 2020 #2
Isn't that for sure what happened? dewsgirl Jan 2020 #3
That part of the story dropped off the radar Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #4
And now the same media that pushed the HRC email crap and Hillary's "poor health" 24/7 is now ... Botany Jan 2020 #6
It depends which media you watch. n/t Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #7
when you're mired so deep in a life of lies, this all seems normal. spanone Jan 2020 #5
Trump supporters will see this as evidence of wnylib Jan 2020 #8
Why post that? Nobody cares what trump supporters think rockfordfile Jan 2020 #16
What a short-sighted view to ignore the opposition wnylib Jan 2020 #18
Just to add - I phone banked and did wnylib Jan 2020 #19
+10 Duppers Jan 2020 #20
Thanks. it's often disturbing to kniw where wnylib Jan 2020 #21
I don't believe that bit of revisionist history. We've already seen... brush Jan 2020 #9
That interview was from 2015, predating much of timeframe Seth's reporting on. Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #11
Oh, ok. Now if I could just believe trump's brain could retain info... brush Jan 2020 #15
Trump might have no idea, but his advisors/staffers definitely do IronLionZion Jan 2020 #14
Military Goon and Hit Man for Hire... panfluteman Jan 2020 #10
Asassination by shelf registration bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #12
Sounds like another Quid Pro Quo patphil Jan 2020 #13
Nothing but lies come out from the WH mysteryowl Jan 2020 #17
trump is shifty enough to know that this would be his 'wild card' in impeachment or..... spanone Jan 2020 #22

Botany

(70,516 posts)
2. It was a hit. Trump might very well have set up Soleimani by getting a Saudi and the P.M. of ...
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 09:55 AM
Jan 2020

... Iraq to invite Soleimani back to Iraq to try to work on a peace deal.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212842415

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
4. That part of the story dropped off the radar
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:01 AM
Jan 2020

I remember Jane Arraf was the first to report about it, but then, not much afterwards...

Botany

(70,516 posts)
6. And now the same media that pushed the HRC email crap and Hillary's "poor health" 24/7 is now ...
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:11 AM
Jan 2020

... pushing the killing Soleimani is a good thing meme. Liberal media.

BTW Soleimani is a no good shit but he did chase ISIS out of Syria.

wnylib

(21,484 posts)
8. Trump supporters will see this as evidence of
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:36 AM
Jan 2020

a good policy toward Iran, planned snd thought out in advance, and not a case of quick-tempered reaction in the moment.

Iran's collossal error of not grounding commercial flights when on high alert unfortunately not only resulted in the loss of passengers on the flight they shot down, but also makes Trump look heroic to his followers. They see the shoot down and international reaction to it, .plus the internal demonstrations now by Iranians, as justification of Trump's policy and actions toward Iran.

And what about the lack of consultation with Congress since this was NOT a 'sudden' emergency event?

wnylib

(21,484 posts)
18. What a short-sighted view to ignore the opposition
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:52 AM
Jan 2020

and what spin we are up against in debunking it. To fight your enemy you must know where they are. To counter spin with facts, it helps to know what the spin is.

This site is constantly full of threads about what Trumpists say, think, promote. So it seems that some people perhaps want to talk about it, even if they don't want to hear about it.

wnylib

(21,484 posts)
19. Just to add - I phone banked and did
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 12:05 PM
Jan 2020

door to door canvassing in 3 different states in '08 and '12 for Obama. I found it was useful to know where people were at in their thinking in order to reach them. The groups I worked with agreed and found it helpful that I had lived in 2 of the states where we worked and was a native of the other state. Ostriches wearing ear plugs don't see or hear anything negative, so their asses are rather vulnerable sticking up in the air.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
20. +10
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 12:17 PM
Jan 2020

I very much agree. And their views are often discussed here.

I also like advance knowledge of what b.s. to expect from my reichwing brother and neighbors.

wnylib

(21,484 posts)
21. Thanks. it's often disturbing to kniw where
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 12:37 PM
Jan 2020

people are at, but, IMO, that's all the more reason.to make a point of knowing it in order to debunk it. Clinton won in '92 by making a point of countering spin the moment it emerged. Kerry ignored the swift boaters in the belief that it would blow over. It didn't.

brush

(53,785 posts)
9. I don't believe that bit of revisionist history. We've already seen...
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:36 AM
Jan 2020

the video where the interviewer asked know-nothing trump about the Quds Force and he started going on about the Kurds.

He had no idea who Soleimani was.

brush

(53,785 posts)
15. Oh, ok. Now if I could just believe trump's brain could retain info...
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:20 AM
Jan 2020

from years, even months ago. Doesn't it seem this is coming out to cover trump's ass for his impulsive, unwise decision to one-up Obama's take out of the hated Bin Ladin by killing Soleimani, who he only remembered because someone fucked up and included his name on a list of options presented to trump—especially since it has come out that there was no imminent threat to our embassies?

IronLionZion

(45,450 posts)
14. Trump might have no idea, but his advisors/staffers definitely do
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:15 AM
Jan 2020

They would have convinced him to order it.

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
10. Military Goon and Hit Man for Hire...
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:37 AM
Jan 2020

That's another thing that Trump can add to his resume. And that's another country that Trump is politically beholden to for their help in his winning the election, and for their support in staying at his properties, of course.

bucolic_frolic

(43,176 posts)
12. Asassination by shelf registration
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 10:50 AM
Jan 2020

as it might be known in the securities business. Or a good-til-cancelled order.

spanone

(135,844 posts)
22. trump is shifty enough to know that this would be his 'wild card' in impeachment or.....
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 12:50 PM
Jan 2020

...or any other situatiion that might arise and need a crucial diversion

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