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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:06 PM Jan 2020

US to announce expulsion of more than 20 Saudi trainees amid probe of Pensacola shooter

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-announce-expulsion-20-saudi-trainees-amid-probe/story?id=68247439

The DOJ has been investigating the shooting as an act of terrorism.

ByAlexander Mallin, Luke Barr and Elizabeth McLaughlin

January 13, 2020, 12:24 PM

More than 20 Saudi students are expected to be expelled from the U.S. amid an ongoing investigation into the Saudi military officer who killed three sailors and wounded eight others at the Naval Air Station in Pensacola last month, an administration official told ABC News Monday.

While the trainees identified by investigators are not expected to be accused of directly aiding Lt. Mohammed Alshamrani in his alleged attack, a review launched by the FBI found that several of the students failed to report concerning behavior the Alshamrani was exhibiting, other trainees who had engaged with extremist groups online, and several who were found to have possessed child pornography, according to the official.

Attorney General William Barr and FBI Deputy Director David Bowdich will hold a news conference Monday afternoon to provide an update on the investigation of the Pensacola shooting and the ongoing review of the Saudi military training program.

<snip>

A joint intelligence bulletin released shortly after the shooting showed that the shooter wrote the phrase “the countdown has started,” on Sept. 11, 2019, and that Alshamrani referred to non-Muslims as “infidels” and defended jihad.

"I'm against evil, and America as a whole has turned into a nation of evil," one post read, according to the report. "What I see from America is the supporting of Israel which is invasion of Muslim countries, I see invasion of many countries by its troops, I see Guantanamo Bay. I see cruise missiles, cluster bombs and UAV."

</snip>


Allies?
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US to announce expulsion of more than 20 Saudi trainees amid probe of Pensacola shooter (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 OP
About Time We Started Getting Rid Of Saudis Me. Jan 2020 #1
Seriously, "get rid of"? marble falls Jan 2020 #7
THINKING that was just a really poor choice of words? stopdiggin Jan 2020 #10
It was kind of jarring. I know a lot of good people from Saudi. I also know a lot ... marble falls Jan 2020 #11
agreed. upon reflection, I'm not sure in what kind of context stopdiggin Jan 2020 #14
Yes, Seriously. They Are Not Our Friends Me. Jan 2020 #12
Because not all Saudis hate America or all Americans. Talking in extremes ... marble falls Jan 2020 #13
For The REcord...I Did Not Actually Use The Word All Me. Jan 2020 #15
I can accept that you have some real reservations about training stopdiggin Jan 2020 #16
Every One Of The Responses To My Post Uses The Word All Me. Jan 2020 #17
"They Are Not Our Friends." stopdiggin Jan 2020 #18
Is that the same Saudi Arabia Trump was bragging about renting our troops to? gratuitous Jan 2020 #2
Exactly Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2020 #19
There's that pesky religious extremism and child pornography connection again! bullwinkle428 Jan 2020 #3
Including American Christians. marble falls Jan 2020 #9
News conf on now...he's bitching about Apple telling him to eff off about cracking phone n/t Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #4
Tiedrich: "Barr declared it terrorism? what, did Bone Saw Arabia's check bounce"? Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #5
No criminal charges for child pornography? dalton99a Jan 2020 #6
Apparently they don't get these guys. nt tblue37 Jan 2020 #8

marble falls

(57,102 posts)
11. It was kind of jarring. I know a lot of good people from Saudi. I also know a lot ...
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:58 PM
Jan 2020

Americans who do everything these fliers are accused of including terroristic goals.

No doubt - these guys broke some serious laws and need to be prosecuted/repatriated

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
14. agreed. upon reflection, I'm not sure in what kind of context
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:11 PM
Jan 2020

the sentiment expressed COULD have been OK. Not well thought out would be the most generous take.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
12. Yes, Seriously. They Are Not Our Friends
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:06 PM
Jan 2020

Quite the contrary and our training them militarily makes no sense

marble falls

(57,102 posts)
13. Because not all Saudis hate America or all Americans. Talking in extremes ...
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:11 PM
Jan 2020

like 'all' whoever sounds ... well, extreme.

All Jews ...
All Mexicans ...
All Democrats ...
All Blacks ...
All Women ...

That's how extremists speak.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
15. For The REcord...I Did Not Actually Use The Word All
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:14 PM
Jan 2020

Though I admit, I am not trusting any Saudi involvement with our country at the moment.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
16. I can accept that you have some real reservations about training
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:29 PM
Jan 2020

Saudi military at our own camps and bases. (there is probably plenty of room for questioning that wisdom)
To extend that to all people of a particular origin -- ala, "They Are Not Our Friends" -- just sounds xenophobic.
Very judgmental. Not terribly well thought out. And not very bright.

Wold you agree that ALL people of ME descent should be expelled from our borders? And, so then .. Donald Trump was RIGHT in instituting a "Muslim ban" upon entering the White House? Think twice.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
17. Every One Of The Responses To My Post Uses The Word All
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 04:52 PM
Jan 2020

I did not, but until we start holding Saudis accountable, what's not terribly bright is allowing them free access to the benefits of this country's military. But then maybe you and the others agree with that policy as you feel there is 'room' to question such.

As to my consideration of them not being our friends, I no longer consider them an ally. But then maybe the next plane flying into a building, shooting at a base or hear of a US resident being chopped to pieces will change your mind.

stopdiggin

(11,316 posts)
18. "They Are Not Our Friends."
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 05:09 PM
Jan 2020

your choice of words ...
here's more:

"until we start holding Saudis accountable"

and another:
" About Time We Started Getting Rid Of Saudis"

Forgive all of us for totally misconstruing your meaning and intent. My bad.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Is that the same Saudi Arabia Trump was bragging about renting our troops to?
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:11 PM
Jan 2020

Ah, never mind. I'm sure there's a perfectly reasonable explanation that will be issued by the Trump administration. After proffering a half dozen or so unreasonable explanations, that is.

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