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(51,559 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... Spring of 2018, trump was trying to develop the narrative that The Ukraine was responsible for the election interference, not Russia. At the time this was probably aimed at countering Meuller and the IC, and to carry Putins water in general. The Burisma/Biden scam may not have been on the front burner at the time.
It also shows that he has a very long and obviously close history with Parnas, the guy he doesnt know.
intrepidity
(7,297 posts)It was the original quid pro quo, with Lutsenko demanding Yovanovitch removal in exchange for him gathering dirt on Biden.
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... then the Giuliani scam was more about a lot of people say the server is in Ukraine. Biden did not announce his candidacy until April 2019.
Ambassador Yovanovitch was not actually called home until May 2019. She was called home because Lutsenko wanted her gone as part of the Burisma/Biden deal. But that wasnt on their radar a year earlier when this tape was made.
Remember Parnas said trump had been trying to fire her for a year. And the Giuliani clown car was working several different angles over a long period of time. Im sure Yavonovitch was a pain in their asses from the start.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)just the Biden angle. And it depended on what timeframe you are in. Different entangled motives/impetus...defense of Manafort, ridding of Obama loyalists, revenge on suspected Clinton supporters, proving he won without Russian help. Biden dirt actually later in timeline.
intrepidity
(7,297 posts)Originally originally, it was the "server" story, or the black ledger story. It just kept evolving over time.
eleny
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grantcart
(53,061 posts)About knowing Parnas and gives credibility to all of Parnas' claims.