On the tape Trump says "get rid of her" and "take her out". He does not say fire her goddammit!

[triron]

Yet that is the narrative both Rachel and MSNBC are pushing.

[triron]

1. knr

[onenote]

2. According to Parnas, Trump was talking to Joe DeStefano

DeStefano was the guy who carried out Trump's order to let Sally Yates know she was fired. So it makes sense in a way. It also seems relevant that Yovanovitch wasn't actually fired for another 13 months -- and the same day it happened, DeStefano "resigned."

[Mersky]

4. Okay, interesting. I missed that connection earlier.

I think you mean Johnny DeStefano? I just had to look him up - Joe’s a different Destefano.

tRump very could have meant ‘fire her’ in thuggish language.

[triron]

7. My point is that MSNBC pushes a narrative which may be totally not what Trump meant.

Perhaps he meant 'fire her' but not what he said. Perhaps he meant something more.
We don't know. Tell me why did Marie Yovanovitch testify that she was fearful after she was fired?

[Mersky]

3. I hear you, and I hear his language

It is menacing.

[Ferryboat]

5. He can remove her if he wants to,

he is the president, she serves under his direction.

To suggest actions to subordinates that indicate another course of action would indicate something else.

The phrase "she is going to go through some things" seems to indicate a unpleasant experience.

[Johnny2X2X]

6. This is not the big thing

Get rid of her is debatable what it means. But he’s talking corruption on tape, his own.

[DURHAM D]

8. The main point they keep ignoring is who was paying Lev.

Finally Senator Klobucher made the comment: "All roads lead to Russia"

Rachel keeps acting like Lev is some sort of hero.

[triron]

9. The truth is out there.

[stopdiggin]

10. yeah. the interviews may have been a big "get" for Maddow

and may have added substantively to the story and public understanding. But Parnas is hardly any kind of hero .. or patriot. And any intimation that his current performance is anything other than completely self-serving .. just like everything else he's done over the years .. is a complete injustice to the people that have come forward in an effort to serve the country. Please, let's not forget what this man was doing over in Russia and the Ukraine. The man's a corpse sucking parasite!

[squirecam]

11. Yeah it wasnt

To kill her.

[triron]

12. You know this because?

[squirecam]

13. The attorney

For Parnas said Trump wasn’t talking to him.