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we can do it

(12,186 posts)
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:03 PM Jan 2020

Take her out. Neither Lev nor Igor had the authority to fire Yavonovich.

Why isn’t this being brought up?

Of course ambassadors work at the pleasure of potus. If he wanted her fired, why didn’t he just instruct Pompeo to do it instead of telling Roodie’s thugs to “Take her out”.
We’re really not that stupid.

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Take her out. Neither Lev nor Igor had the authority to fire Yavonovich. (Original Post) we can do it Jan 2020 OP
Unless of course he wanted her killed. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #1
That's what it sounds like to me.🤬 we can do it Jan 2020 #2
According to Lev's lawyer, a high level Trump staffer was in the room. enough Jan 2020 #3
That's what I thought first too...ok who ELSE was in the room? nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #14
Seems legit, yes? cilla4progress Jan 2020 #4
He seems to have been talking to a WH aide, DeStefano. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #5
I think Lev is trying to save his own ass. we can do it Jan 2020 #9
Of course, just like Cohen was trying to save his. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #11
This will only get worse if he's allowed. louis-t Jan 2020 #6
He had already tried to fire her. Cracklin Charlie Jan 2020 #7
They could have reassigned her at any time. we can do it Jan 2020 #8
Because he does not have even a basic understanding of how our government works. Ms. Toad Jan 2020 #10
I'm not so sure he wasn't ordering a hit. we can do it Jan 2020 #16
From my perspective, Ms. Toad Jan 2020 #20
Aw, shit, Eric Price is probably running the show anyway. Firestorm49 Jan 2020 #12
Blackwater anyone? we can do it Jan 2020 #19
Lev said Trump continued ranting about her for over a year but never fired her wishstar Jan 2020 #13
The exchange between Lev and Hyde seems pretty ominous. we can do it Jan 2020 #17
Kick this one. Kingofalldems Jan 2020 #15
Its not being brought up because Parnas himself said the command was directed to a Trump aide onenote Jan 2020 #18
It didn't really matter how. rockfordfile Jan 2020 #21

enough

(13,259 posts)
3. According to Lev's lawyer, a high level Trump staffer was in the room.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:10 PM
Jan 2020

He says that’s who Trump was giving the order to.

This was on Maddow last night. He named the staffer, but I don’t remember the name.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
4. Seems legit, yes?
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:10 PM
Jan 2020

I mean, ordering it out loud in a group including thugs with connections to Russian intelligence?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
5. He seems to have been talking to a WH aide, DeStefano.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:12 PM
Jan 2020

"Parnas has previously described the dinner in interviews, saying he witnessed Trump telling a top aide, John DeStefano, to fire the ambassador." https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/24/politics/trump-phone-call-ukraine-ambassador/index.html

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
11. Of course, just like Cohen was trying to save his.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:24 PM
Jan 2020

Once you get drawn into the Trump orbit your ass is in danger, and the only way to save it is to throw yourself on the mercy of the courts or the media or someone else who isn't part of the Trump orbit.

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
6. This will only get worse if he's allowed.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:13 PM
Jan 2020

You know he got off on killing Soleimani. He admires that power that Jong Un and Putin have. They can kill anyone who disagrees with them.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
7. He had already tried to fire her.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:14 PM
Jan 2020

They complained she wouldn’t leave.

This was something else.

And what’s with the pundits, saying of the new tape...he wanted her fired? He never said fired, his favorite word, on the tape.

Snow job

we can do it

(12,186 posts)
8. They could have reassigned her at any time.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jan 2020

Saying she was going to go through some things, and take her out doesn’t sound reasonable from the person with the authority to have her reassigned.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
10. Because he does not have even a basic understanding of how our government works.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:22 PM
Jan 2020

He believes if he says something - it happens

This is a man who is using his personal counsel to carry out government business - and who firmly believes that the attorney general is there to do his personal bidding.

While I'm sure he would not have been disappointed if she died, he was not ordering a hit. He was ordering her removal from Ukraine, where he viewed her as obstructing his goals.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
20. From my perspective,
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:44 PM
Jan 2020

That thought belongs in crazy talk/conspiracy theory.

That blustery/crass/ignorant way of speaking - and his ignorance of how things work - is stunning. He wants something done (Ambassador Yovanovitch to stop gumming up the works - he wants it to stop). He's afraid the republican senators might not hold the line He's not going to stop and ask himself who the proper person to fire her is - he's going to blster to whoever is closest to him, or on his mind, or walks in the door next & tell them to get rid of her (meaning make her stop getting in my way.) Just like he threatens Republican senators with their heads on spikes.

Think of how many times he's said something very simliar when protesters sneak into his campaign rallies.

He's just an idioic jerk. He doesn't have the brains, or self-awareness to be an effective mob boss.

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
13. Lev said Trump continued ranting about her for over a year but never fired her
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:18 PM
Jan 2020

Seems extremely suspicious that instead of simply having John Di Stefano send her notice of reassignment and removing her officially which is done frequently, especially by new presidents as Di Stefano did for Sally Yates, Trump instead carried on a long smear campaign using Giuliani, Don Jr, and rightwingers. Lev said that on numerous occasions in front of Lev and other lowlifes including that guy Robert Hyde who sent Lev the stalking texts, Trump complained about how much he wanted her removed and taken out.

Only conclusion to me was that he wanted the henchmen to intimidate and stalk her and he would have welcomed whatever they cooked up to silence her so she wouldn't be able or she would be afraid to say anything about their nefarious pro-Russia schemes going on.

we can do it

(12,186 posts)
17. The exchange between Lev and Hyde seems pretty ominous.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:37 PM
Jan 2020

There is no reason a man who loves saying “you’re fired” would say “take her out”, when he could just have her assigned elsewhere. Why bother stalking her? And “things can happen in the Ukraine if you have money”....Lev saying it wasn’t a hit being discussed is the one thing I didn’t believe in his interview with Rachel. He didn’t want that blame on top of everything else.

onenote

(42,704 posts)
18. Its not being brought up because Parnas himself said the command was directed to a Trump aide
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:03 PM
Jan 2020

So it wouldn't make much sense to be discussing why Trump told Parnas to get rid of her since that's not what happened according to Parnas himself.

The command was given to Joe DeStefano and asking DeStefano to handle the firing of someone isn't that suprising. DeStefano is the guy that wrote the letter to Sally Yates telling her Trump had fired her. And according to Parnas, DeStefano pushed back on the command because Pompeo was still awaiting confirmation at the time.

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