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Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:11 PM Feb 2020

I'm thinking nice can't beat crazy. We need our own a-hole.

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by NancyBlueINOklahoma (a host of the General Discussion forum).

What I’m going to say is Sooooo against my nature.
I love nice people.
My favorite bumper sticker says Just Be Nice.
But, as for picking our Dem Prez in this cycle, I no longer see NICE as an attribute.

Joe Biden is one of the nicest and most decent people in politics.
So is Elizabeth Warren whom I adore.
And I think Pete Buttigieg probably is too.
So, they are out. The time just isn’t right for nice people right now.

I think Amy Klobuchar (staff treatment) has a little A-hole in her.
Bernie and Bloomberg both certainly seem to also.
All three can certainly dish it and stand toe to toe with Trumps carnival act and call him out.
So, I’m down to those three.

Trump is crazy.
He’s not mean in the normal usage of that word.
He is a malignant narcissist.
He just believes he is the greatest person ever created and that he is infallible.

No former political playbook (such as “when they go low, we go high”) works against him.
We are Facing a cult like repub party and much of the fawning or both sideism nonsense media.
We are facing a huge percentage of the general public that are very low information voters that are conditioned to only pay attention to CONFLICT.
Again, nice doesn’t work.

So, I say give me the meanest, biggest street fighting SOB we can find.
I don’t care about their policy positions anymore.
We are fighting for our countries very survival.
Gloves are off.
Who will lead us in going after this menace to our democracy with every bone in their body.

I’m listening, Amy, Bernie, and Mike.

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I'm thinking nice can't beat crazy. We need our own a-hole. (Original Post) Funtatlaguy Feb 2020 OP
Weird, Amy, Bernie and Mike are my top three as well. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #1
Bill Maher said something similar to Steve Bannon on his BigmanPigman Feb 2020 #2
Bill Maher 2020 superpatriotman Feb 2020 #30
Trump is mean. He is mean because it feeds his pathology. Thomas Hurt Feb 2020 #3
I accept your nomination for President of the United States Moostache Feb 2020 #4
Would you please run? Kudos! Funtatlaguy Feb 2020 #5
At around 4:30 a.m. this morning during a period of insominia rzemanfl Feb 2020 #6
Unless he's proven to be a genuine racist, I'm leaning that way too. Funtatlaguy Feb 2020 #7
I would go so far as to say "genuine, present-day, racist." rzemanfl Feb 2020 #10
He has the money to trump Trump Nature Man Feb 2020 #9
I would like to see his campaign hire all the fired/resigned folks from State and Justice rzemanfl Feb 2020 #11
Great call. blm Feb 2020 #28
Agree 1000% calguy Feb 2020 #8
That's how it's shaking out. I dig the logic of this. somaticexperiencing Feb 2020 #12
I like your reasoning. Basic LA Feb 2020 #13
I hear you loud and clear here. Couple more weekends will tell even better. n/t MFGsunny Feb 2020 #19
Warren turns into an assassin when facing corruption. She's nice to fellow dems blm Feb 2020 #14
Excellent point!!!!! nt LAS14 Feb 2020 #18
She was the nation's top expert on bankruptcy law against a 6bankruptcy Trump. blm Feb 2020 #23
Warren is my first choice. Funtatlaguy Feb 2020 #21
Then you weren't paying attention to Wells Fargo, or Jamie Dimon testimony. blm Feb 2020 #25
It's going to take more than one asshole to beat Trump. Initech Feb 2020 #15
Maybe we ALL need to summon our inner a-hole. Funtatlaguy Feb 2020 #24
I think you may have hit on something. You're even making me take a second... LAS14 Feb 2020 #16
Read my post above. blm Feb 2020 #17
I had already responded to it. "Excellent point!" nt LAS14 Feb 2020 #20
👍🏼 blm Feb 2020 #27
One can be tough without being an a-hole Clash City Rocker Feb 2020 #22
✔️ blm Feb 2020 #26
Amy has a quiet strength, will not be pushed around. apcalc Feb 2020 #29
I have a hunch Pete B can get down & dirty in 5 languages. Ilsa Feb 2020 #31
Isn't this a primaries post? nt essme Feb 2020 #32
Engaged beats asshole meadowlander Feb 2020 #33
Sorry but this is in the wrong forum - Locking OKNancy Feb 2020 #34

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
1. Weird, Amy, Bernie and Mike are my top three as well.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:14 PM
Feb 2020

I like people with a little street-fight in them. Obama was that way too.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
2. Bill Maher said something similar to Steve Bannon on his
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:15 PM
Feb 2020

show last week. He said, "I wish we had someone evil like you on our side".

superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
30. Bill Maher 2020
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:02 PM
Feb 2020

He’s smart enough, funny enough and mean enough.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
3. Trump is mean. He is mean because it feeds his pathology.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:15 PM
Feb 2020

If he can be an a-hole and people applaud and adore him for it, all the better.

Being mean make him the center of attention. Being an a-hole means he is control and manipulating people, at least some of the time.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
4. I accept your nomination for President of the United States
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:16 PM
Feb 2020

Now, as my first act, I am going to arrest Trump, his sons, his egregious grifter daughter, her husband and about 20 other sycophants and hangers-on from their administration. They are all going away FOR LIFE at hard labor, no special cells, no added protection...they are going inside, they are going to stand tall before the man and answer for their crimes.

As for the rest of the running of the country, I will leave that to my Vice-President and his cabinet choices, because immediately after defeating Trump and imprisoning his cabal, I intend to resign the office of President and turn the government over to more qualified people.

My campaign motto is simple: Imprison IMPOTUS#3.

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
5. Would you please run? Kudos!
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:18 PM
Feb 2020

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
6. At around 4:30 a.m. this morning during a period of insominia
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:18 PM
Feb 2020

I performed this thought experiment-

What if an extremely rich, elderly, German Jew had the balls to go after Hitler before he consolidated power?

I changed my DU preference from Joe Biden to Mike Bloomberg. My primary ballot arrived today.

"Reaching across the aisle" and that sort of stuff is unrealistic, these nutcases HAVE TO BE STOPPED.

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
7. Unless he's proven to be a genuine racist, I'm leaning that way too.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:21 PM
Feb 2020

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
10. I would go so far as to say "genuine, present-day, racist."
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:27 PM
Feb 2020

The country is in an existential crisis, he recognizes it and is willing to put his billions to work. He knows how to play the game Drumpf's way.

Nature Man

(869 posts)
9. He has the money to trump Trump
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:27 PM
Feb 2020

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
11. I would like to see his campaign hire all the fired/resigned folks from State and Justice
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:29 PM
Feb 2020

at their same salaries as fact checkers. Not as surrogates, because that could be spun. Facts cannot.

blm

(113,052 posts)
28. Great call.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:52 PM
Feb 2020

calguy

(5,306 posts)
8. Agree 1000%
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:24 PM
Feb 2020

I throw Bernie's name out simply because he is so vulnerable in a General election landscaoe. That leaves Mike and Amy. Amy has the fight but not the resources to go all the way. Mike seems to have the fight and certainly has the resources. I want to wait to see how Mike performs in the debates before giving up on Biden. So, if Bloomberg doesn't disappoint, I'm thinking Mike running with Amy as VP is our best ticket and one I could definitely support.

12. That's how it's shaking out. I dig the logic of this.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:30 PM
Feb 2020
 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
13. I like your reasoning.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:32 PM
Feb 2020

Suddenly the gloom is lifting.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
19. I hear you loud and clear here. Couple more weekends will tell even better. n/t
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:39 PM
Feb 2020

blm

(113,052 posts)
14. Warren turns into an assassin when facing corruption. She's nice to fellow dems
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:35 PM
Feb 2020

in this, her FIRST primary run against fellow Dems.

She is a skilled ASSASSIN when facing corruption and Republicans.

Sad that some of you are unaware of why Jamie Dimon fears Warren.

And, were you not paying attention to what happened with Wells Fargo?

Sorry, but, some of these comments sound incredibly uninformed. Warren is the assassin the corrupt do not want to face.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
18. Excellent point!!!!! nt
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:39 PM
Feb 2020

blm

(113,052 posts)
23. She was the nation's top expert on bankruptcy law against a 6bankruptcy Trump.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:45 PM
Feb 2020

She knows exactly how to pinpoint financial corruption and expose it. And she has NEVER backed down from those fights. She’s a killer and everyone big in the financial industry knows it.

IMO, Dems are STOOPID for not knowing these things already. It means you aren’t knowledgeable about events over the last 15yrs, and I get offended at that level of neglect here at DU.

Sorry, but anticorruption is my focus.

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
21. Warren is my first choice.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:44 PM
Feb 2020

I know all about her legitimate fight against the banking industry.
But, at her core, she is a sweetheart.
You can see it in her interaction with supporters and her dog.
She is a fighter. Yes.
But, she’s not an a-hole.

blm

(113,052 posts)
25. Then you weren't paying attention to Wells Fargo, or Jamie Dimon testimony.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:48 PM
Feb 2020

She twists them into pretzels till they’re choking and then goes for the kill. Not as a jerk, but, as a skilled mind who is RELENTLESS and RUTHLESS.

Sorry, but the posts are telling me that people here haven’t paid attention the last 15years.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
15. It's going to take more than one asshole to beat Trump.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:37 PM
Feb 2020

The only thing that can do that is an entire army of assholes. And the only candidate who has that ability, IMO, is Bernie Sanders. He commands an entire army of assholes called "The Bernie Bros". They can take on the Trumpholes.

The only other candidate who could command a troll army is uinfortunatly no longer in the race, and that's Andrew Yang. I think Bernie and Yang should team up.They would command a troll army handily capable of destroying the MAGAs and Trumpholes. Hell, I would bet the farm on it.

Funtatlaguy

(10,870 posts)
24. Maybe we ALL need to summon our inner a-hole.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:46 PM
Feb 2020

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
16. I think you may have hit on something. You're even making me take a second...
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:38 PM
Feb 2020

... look at Bernie. But I'd go with Bloomberg. Interesting take on Klobuchar, whom I like a lot.

blm

(113,052 posts)
17. Read my post above.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:38 PM
Feb 2020

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
20. I had already responded to it. "Excellent point!" nt
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:43 PM
Feb 2020

blm

(113,052 posts)
27. 👍🏼
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:49 PM
Feb 2020

Clash City Rocker

(3,396 posts)
22. One can be tough without being an a-hole
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:44 PM
Feb 2020

A-holes, by definition, don’t care about anything but themselves, and therefore make terrible leaders. We just need someone who will be tough in fighting for America and not against it. I think more than three candidates apply.

blm

(113,052 posts)
26. ✔️
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:48 PM
Feb 2020

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
29. Amy has a quiet strength, will not be pushed around.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:59 PM
Feb 2020

And she will calmly tell him he’s a dick to his face in a public setting, and he won’t even know it. But everyone else will.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
31. I have a hunch Pete B can get down & dirty in 5 languages.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:10 PM
Feb 2020

And the receiver of his ire would spend the next few days on the toilet from spasms from the emotional butt-hurt Pete laid on him.

essme

(1,207 posts)
32. Isn't this a primaries post? nt
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:14 PM
Feb 2020

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
33. Engaged beats asshole
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:17 PM
Feb 2020

And we aren’t going to GOTV for democrats by running an asshole where “both sides are just as bad as each other”

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
34. Sorry but this is in the wrong forum - Locking
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:23 PM
Feb 2020
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