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Laelth

(32,017 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:40 PM Feb 2021

Most likely, we're being watched closely, and it's OK.

This is a response to a thread that was self-deleted by marmar who wanted to understand why views seem so high this evening on DU (immediately following the conclusion of Trump’s second impeachment trial) compared to responses and recommendations. What follows is my theory.

National security and other bots are probably doing repeated word-searches looking for words like:

fight, kill, terrorism, attack, bomb, destroy, plan, meeting, murder, eradicate, secede, secession, war, castrate all Republicans, treason, traitor, vengeance, decimate, decapitate, genocide, annihilate, blast, drown, AK-47, boot, sacrifice, blood, eggs and omelettes, illegal, weapon, killing, homicide, gun, ammo, insurrection, barricade, hang, secret, shoot, poison, anthrax, slaughter, plot, and don’t forget tiny demonic wizards designed to penetrate Trump’s testicles and blow them up from the inside.

If this post doesn’t raise a red flag, then I wrote it very poorly. Seriously, people SHOULD be concerned that true Americans are rightly angry about the blatant miscarriage of justice that we witnessed today. It would make sense for law enforcement to pay special attention to us today.



-Laelth
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Most likely, we're being watched closely, and it's OK. (Original Post) Laelth Feb 2021 OP
And you got 500 looks in 1 minute. Right you are. And right the authorities applegrove Feb 2021 #1
I think you're most likely right; this makes sense to me. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2021 #2
490 views in one minute. nt Midnightwalk Feb 2021 #3
Eggs & Omlets? Nevilledog Feb 2021 #4
Isn't that how Stalin justified killing 20 million of his own people? Laelth Feb 2021 #11
I've got my eye on you. panader0 Feb 2021 #66
Really? n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #70
All I can think of is the saying Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #13
Just so. It definitely implies that the ends justify the means. n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #22
Trump has testicles??? llmart Feb 2021 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Laelth Feb 2021 #12
LOL llmart Feb 2021 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Laelth Feb 2021 #21
right now some incel Qnon mental defective in his basement is saying... dhill926 Feb 2021 #28
I have to stop now, or I will get in trouble. Laelth Feb 2021 #30
Oops you did it again. Tommymac Feb 2021 #29
Of that I am certain. n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #33
This is also a busy place at times like this. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #6
Quite true. Laelth Feb 2021 #8
Hi Agent Mikes dweller Feb 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Laelth Feb 2021 #39
why look at bdamomma Feb 2021 #9
"Agent Mike"?? WarGamer Feb 2021 #10
The humorous hypothetical government agent we pretend monitors our site. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Laelth Feb 2021 #40
More like "Agent Mike Bot" Generic Brad Feb 2021 #54
I am way past caring about that kind of thing. Chainfire Feb 2021 #15
I hear you. Laelth Feb 2021 #41
Blewn and tattoonend Chainfire Feb 2021 #42
It's gonna freak me out ... Laelth Feb 2021 #46
I'm back! Chainfire Feb 2021 #53
Does that mean they are not going to be sending us any hearts??? dameatball Feb 2021 #16
Probably not. n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #23
'Way back before y2k, we used to troll the FBI with such terms in online "chats". Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #17
Echelon Celerity Feb 2021 #36
Let us not forget... LaelthsDaughter Feb 2021 #18
I think you might be having too much fun with this. n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #26
Maybe LaelthsDaughter Feb 2021 #47
Yes. That's too much fun. Laelth Feb 2021 #48
Well, you didn't break 1k dweller Feb 2021 #19
This thread has already been flagged and is being recorded. Laelth Feb 2021 #24
Could be just googling impeachment questions Qutzupalotl Feb 2021 #20
Honestly, I expect that the fascists are searching for delicious, liberal tears. Laelth Feb 2021 #49
But it doesn't fit our MO and they know that ecstatic Feb 2021 #25
They have to monitor us just for the appearance of balance. Laelth Feb 2021 #27
I doubt anyone cares much Sympthsical Feb 2021 #32
Small, sure, but it's not that small. Laelth Feb 2021 #34
I honestly don't think it is Sympthsical Feb 2021 #35
Admittedly, we're nothing compared to Facebook. Laelth Feb 2021 #38
Though, now that you mention it . . . Sympthsical Feb 2021 #44
We used to be much bigger (in terms of internet share). Laelth Feb 2021 #45
Thank you for sticking up for us harmless lurkers. Clearly fogged in Feb 2021 #56
I doubt very much anyone looks at us except as a source of amusement at times. cwydro Feb 2021 #55
Sigh. I fear that we are quite lame (as domestic terrorists go). Laelth Feb 2021 #62
I noticed long ago that any post with their party name or.... KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2021 #37
Hear! Hear! Laelth Feb 2021 #43
Eggs and omelettes? What's that suppose to mean? dmr Feb 2021 #50
Didn't Republicans just demonstrate that soldierant Feb 2021 #51
I am quite sure that crypic talk will keep them looking. PurgedVoter Feb 2021 #52
Roger that. n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #59
I'd like to respectfully submit the phrase "Fire up the wood chipper." harumph Feb 2021 #57
Shhh ... that one is not approved by ANTINT for public dissemination. Laelth Feb 2021 #58
There's anteefa dust in the omelettes at Mar-a-lardo... nt Progressive Jones Feb 2021 #60
Roger that. n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #61
The grunion run at midnight. Klaralven Feb 2021 #63
Calzones are ready for harvest. Roisin Ni Fiachra Feb 2021 #64
ANTINT ALERT Laelth Feb 2021 #69
Whenever I'm Driving On A Highway And I See A Police Car JimGinPA Feb 2021 #65
Did you guess those 'keywords'? SmartVoter22 Feb 2021 #67
No comment. n/t Laelth Feb 2021 #68

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
11. Isn't that how Stalin justified killing 20 million of his own people?
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:53 PM
Feb 2021

“In order to make an omelette, you have to break a few eggs.”



-Laelth

Mr.Bill

(24,289 posts)
13. All I can think of is the saying
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:55 PM
Feb 2021

You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.

Maybe some people use that as code for violent action?

Response to llmart (Reply #5)

Response to llmart (Reply #14)

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
6. This is also a busy place at times like this.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:45 PM
Feb 2021

But yes, it's quite likely that it's getting attention outside the usual, but I think there might be a lot of right-wing lurkers in the total. That also happens at times like this. They want to see our reactions for the same reason DUers go check out FR, Fox, etc.

Response to dweller (Reply #7)

Response to WarGamer (Reply #10)

Chainfire

(17,538 posts)
15. I am way past caring about that kind of thing.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:57 PM
Feb 2021

If they ever start to come after mouthy liberals, I will be doomed for my post on gun forums. There are a lot of folks on one forum that would be happy to see me hung, drawn and quartered for my expressed views.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
46. It's gonna freak me out ...
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 10:12 PM
Feb 2021

... when I meet you on our ordinary, daily walk to the market and you’re somebody else using the same name as my dear, forever-lost friend.



-Laelth

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,345 posts)
17. 'Way back before y2k, we used to troll the FBI with such terms in online "chats".
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:58 PM
Feb 2021

Sorry, I don't remember the (alleged) name of the software they were using.

LaelthsDaughter

(150 posts)
18. Let us not forget...
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:58 PM
Feb 2021

Bust their kneecaps, maim, shoot, gun down, stab, torture, eviscerate, bomb, gas, explode, slash, overwhelm, boil, freeze to death, poison with: wolfsbane, carbon monoxide, hemlock, belladonna, and arsenic, some good old fashioned bludgeoning, and incineration.

All of this to just have fun with poking at the people watching.

dweller

(23,632 posts)
19. Well, you didn't break 1k
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:58 PM
Feb 2021

in over 10 minutes, so I suppose you scared them off ..

good job 👍

✌🏻

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
24. This thread has already been flagged and is being recorded.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:27 PM
Feb 2021

No need to bot-search for it now.



-Laelth

Qutzupalotl

(14,311 posts)
20. Could be just googling impeachment questions
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:59 PM
Feb 2021

leads to discussion boards and leads to DU. Our reputation is deserved; despite our rowdiness, we can be substantive and sticklers for accuracy, which is useful to those seeking answers. Hi, future members!

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
49. Honestly, I expect that the fascists are searching for delicious, liberal tears.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 10:27 PM
Feb 2021

I think that is part of it, anyway.



-Laelth

ecstatic

(32,704 posts)
25. But it doesn't fit our MO and they know that
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:27 PM
Feb 2021

We're not violent terrorists. I resisted the urge to say some extremely nasty things to MoscowTurtle & lyin Ted though.

I'm over it now. I'll probably disappear from all topics related to trump until the *real* trial begins.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
27. They have to monitor us just for the appearance of balance.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:30 PM
Feb 2021

Agreed. They know that DU isn’t a violent threat to anyone or anything.

-Laelth

Sympthsical

(9,073 posts)
32. I doubt anyone cares much
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:35 PM
Feb 2021

It's a busy political news day. Not only are we posters and lurkers refreshing threads much more than usual, but outsiders who are curious about partisan reactions to things are surfing around as well.

I'm just guesstimating, but there's maybe, what, 200 regularly active posters here? Maybe? That seems high even. I lurk a lot more than post, and it always seems like I'm reading the same couple dozen people everyday.

If the government and/or bots are going to go snooping around, they're going to go to your Reddits, Facebooks, Twitter, etc. where tens of thousands of people are interacting in real time.

This is a very small corner of the internet. If someone is lurking around here trying to assess anything, they're wasting an awful lot of time.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
34. Small, sure, but it's not that small.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:37 PM
Feb 2021

It’s worth monitoring, I would think ... I would hope.



-Laelth

Sympthsical

(9,073 posts)
35. I honestly don't think it is
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:42 PM
Feb 2021

I read a lot of political sites. The only reason I knew of this place is because a friend is a long-time poster and said I should read and post here.

I don't know the membership numbers or anything, but as I said, it feels like I'm reading the same posters most days. It feels like a pretty small community to me. And I'm just comparing that to, say, political subReddits, where there are so many people, I never who anyone is.

I mean, it doesn't matter. As long as the community likes each other and generally gets along, the number doesn't matter. Just the quality you're getting out of it.

I just can't imagine the government particularly cares. Facebook monitoring alone feels like it should be its own Cabinet department.

Sympthsical

(9,073 posts)
44. Though, now that you mention it . . .
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 10:02 PM
Feb 2021

I just glanced around. There's one post with 11 replies and 5.7k views. That seems . . . odd. However, it's titled "The MFer got away with it again," and that's the kind of post that a lot of outsiders will glom onto to see the reactions.

But, one thing to note is that the site owners can see where traffic is coming from. So, if it was a problem, maybe an admin could chime in? I've run a few sites in the past, and I could always instantly tell if something got linked somewhere. It's there in the stats read out.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
45. We used to be much bigger (in terms of internet share).
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 10:06 PM
Feb 2021

This site dates to 2000, and, at one point, was in the top 200 busiest sites on the internet. We do American politics, and we are the largest left-wing, American political forum on the internet. We’re accustomed to being watched. The admins are fully aware of our traffic patterns. It’s no biggie to us.

Compared to our right-wing mirrors, we’re harmless.



-Laelth

Clearly fogged in

(1,896 posts)
56. Thank you for sticking up for us harmless lurkers.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 07:12 PM
Feb 2021

People who like to look for the bigger picture of things. People who come here because the relatively small number of posters are those who deliver a consistent and well thought approach to things. In this Orwellian world it seems that anyone speaking above their paygrade bears monitoring. Those damned dangerous words again. I think it's s total bullshit.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
55. I doubt very much anyone looks at us except as a source of amusement at times.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:31 AM
Feb 2021

Most of us over 60, the same posters, some of whom post OP after OP umpteen times a day...Agent Mike isn't going to lose sleep over a group that overwhelmingly has posted about how they don't DARE even put a bumpersticker on a car for fear of keying, much less a sign in their yard.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
62. Sigh. I fear that we are quite lame (as domestic terrorists go).
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 07:11 AM
Feb 2021

Still, they have to monitor us to create the appearance of “balance.” They know that the really dangerous loons come from our right wing.

-Laelth

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KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
37. I noticed long ago that any post with their party name or....
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:44 PM
Feb 2021

the name of any of their politicians seem to gather huge numbers of views.

That strongly suggest there are bots or trolls searching for Dems saying bad stuff about Rethugs, I guess to prove why they have constant butt hurt and whine on social media 24/7.

I mean, it's not like a bunch of 100% assholes don't deserve a little criticism from the public......

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
43. Hear! Hear!
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 10:00 PM
Feb 2021

It’s a bit depressing that they’re not really afraid of us. The Republicans who voted to acquit are far more afraid of their rabid right-wing constituents than they are of the majority of their constituents (loyal American patriots who know incitement to insurrection when they see it). It’s somewhat sad that they’re NOT afraid of us.

-Laelth

dmr

(28,347 posts)
50. Eggs and omelettes? What's that suppose to mean?
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 11:02 PM
Feb 2021

I learned a long time ago (decades) to watch what I say, or how to say it.

Even at home you never know who or what is listening in. Between our smart phones/appliances, Alexa, GPS, TV remotes, etc ....

I try not to think about it, yet, I'm very conscious of what I say and type.
:hi;

PurgedVoter

(2,217 posts)
52. I am quite sure that crypic talk will keep them looking.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 11:59 PM
Feb 2021

So if you need a yellow umbrella to fly, don't dust the chicken.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
58. Shhh ... that one is not approved by ANTINT for public dissemination.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 08:51 PM
Feb 2021

Please delete your post.

-Laelth

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
69. ANTINT ALERT
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 10:43 AM
Feb 2021

Portland, 02-15-21

ANTINT ALERT from Antifa Intelligence, Portland

Be advised that the preceding message was posted in error and did not originate from an authorized Antifa agent. This matter is under investigation, but be advised:

Calzones are NOT ready for harvest.

REPEAT

Calzones are NOT ready for harvest.

Direct all inquiries to ANTINT, Portland.

Thank you.

-Laelth

JimGinPA

(14,811 posts)
65. Whenever I'm Driving On A Highway And I See A Police Car
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 08:37 AM
Feb 2021

I normally take a quick glance at my speedometer just to be sure I'm not going too fast. 90% of the time I don't need to ease of the gas because I'm within 5 mph of the speed limit. So while it may make me a little uneasy in the short term, after thinking about it a bit I suppose I'm glad they're out there keeping the roads a little safer.

This site goes out of it's way to not promote violence, or hate speech or any other anti-social or illegal activity, not only by the admins of the the site, but by the vast majority of the members as well. So while it may cause some uneasiness to think we might be being watched, it's also a good thing they are out there looking for those other vehicles driving recklessly.



SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
67. Did you guess those 'keywords'?
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:59 AM
Feb 2021

or are the actual ones the FBI uses?

Seems to be a pretty remarkable thing, for you to hae access to those keywords, and be able to post them; if in fact they are actual words the FBI uses to search Google.

I am not sure if the FBI even needs Google or Bing or DuckDuckGo to find what they're looking for.

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