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applegrove

(118,642 posts)
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 09:35 PM Mar 2020

Scoop: Lab for coronavirus test kits may have been contaminated

Scoop: Lab for coronavirus test kits may have been contaminated

Jonathan Swan, Caitlin Owens

https://www.axios.com/cdc-lab-coronavirus-contaminated-6dc9726d-dea3-423f-b5ad-eb7b1e44c2e2.html

"SNIP.....

A top federal scientist sounded the alarm about what he feared was contamination in an Atlanta lab where the government made test kits for the coronavirus, according to sources familiar with the situation in Atlanta.

Driving the news: The Trump administration has ordered an independent investigation of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention lab, and manufacturing of the virus test kits has been moved, the sources said.

Why it matters: At the time the administration is under scrutiny for its early preparations for the virus, the potential problems at the lab became a top internal priority for some officials. But the Trump administration did not talk publicly about the Food and Drug Administration’s specific concerns about the Atlanta lab.


* Senior officials are still not saying exactly what the FDA regulator found at the Atlanta lab.


.....SNIP"

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Scoop: Lab for coronavirus test kits may have been contaminated (Original Post) applegrove Mar 2020 OP
and Trump is going there tomorrow stillcool Mar 2020 #1
Hopefully RNA/DNA contamination, not live virus Maine-i-acs Mar 2020 #2
Thanks. Hopefully it is fixed. applegrove Mar 2020 #4
Bleach and UV light can clean it out. Maine-i-acs Mar 2020 #5
Wow. You know a lot. applegrove Mar 2020 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author superpatriotman Mar 2020 #3
This explains why their negative-controls in the test kit were posituve intrepidity Mar 2020 #7
Neither of you are speaking my language. I loved science until grade applegrove Mar 2020 #8
A negative control is some unrelated nucleic acid (DNA/RNA) intrepidity Mar 2020 #9
I sort of get it. Thanks. applegrove Mar 2020 #10

Maine-i-acs

(1,499 posts)
2. Hopefully RNA/DNA contamination, not live virus
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 09:47 PM
Mar 2020

From replicating the RNA/DNA sequence after artificially synthesizing it.

The sequence is known and when it is replicating, it grows logarithmically. Unlike the live virus, the genetic material itself is not inherently infectious or harmful.

But a little bit escaping out of a test tube can contaminate a whole lab - the RNA/DNA tests are very sensitive so every test run can be false positive due to these escaping snippets of genetic material.

Maine-i-acs

(1,499 posts)
5. Bleach and UV light can clean it out.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 11:09 PM
Mar 2020

Cleaning every nook and cranny is the challenge, sine this can ride around on dust particles.

Response to applegrove (Original post)

intrepidity

(7,296 posts)
7. This explains why their negative-controls in the test kit were posituve
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 11:41 PM
Mar 2020

The kits could technically still have been used, even for preliminary screening, if just that one vial was contaminated.

But, I guess it's logical to assume *all* the other vials could also be contaminated.

It's not rocket science for labs to have their own primers made, it's just a sequence, fercrissakes!

applegrove

(118,642 posts)
8. Neither of you are speaking my language. I loved science until grade
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 11:44 PM
Mar 2020

13. This discussion i started is beyond me.

intrepidity

(7,296 posts)
9. A negative control is some unrelated nucleic acid (DNA/RNA)
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 11:57 PM
Mar 2020

that was prepared in the same environment as the rest of the components of the test kit.

So that when the test is run, and your test sample shows a positive result for coronavirus, you can be confident that it's real and not an artifact from a faulty test kit.

A "primer" is the important part of the PCR process. This is a short (15 or so nucleotides, A C T G) piece of DNA that works to kickstart the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) -- the sequence is uniquely specific to the coronavirus, so that during the procedure, it can find and bind to the coronavirus, if present. If the coronavirus is not present, the "primer" can't and doesn't bind to it's target and no reaction can take place, proving the absence of the virus--a negative result.

That may not be helpful after all, lol.

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