Rubbing Alcohol, Bleach or Lysol; Which Is Better At Disinfecting For Viruses? Tx.

[appalachiablue]

[safeinOhio]

1. If those don't work you can try

Sulfuric acid.

[appalachiablue]

11. We're ok for now but thanks!

[raccoon]

2. Cat you use vodka? Nt

[True Blue American]

5. Doesn't that disinfect

Your intestines? Asking for a friend.

[Jamastiene]

21. Everlear, that's the ticket.

I should be 100% safe if Everclear works. If not, hmm, back to the drawing board.

[apcalc]

25. Lol Thanks!

[Submariner]

39. Ronrico 151 rum can do a good cleanup in a pinch

It's the one bottle of booze you won't see for sale at airport Duty Free stores, because it's too flammable to bring inside the plane, so don't smoke while cleaning.

[True Blue American]

3. I use Hydrogen Peroxide

To disinfect my bathroom.

Can not stand the smell of bleach or Lysol so use it as little as possible. That may not work for others. It works great on my Coriander counter tops,too.

88 cents a bottle.

[appalachiablue]

4. Sounds good, esp. to decrease those smells

[True Blue American]

7. Wounds,takes swelling out.

Everything but bleach my hair. women use to do that.

[appalachiablue]

10. Yes, it's good for cuts, wounds and more, TY

[Mosby]

42. It damages tissue and shouldn't be used

https://www.webmd.com/first-aid/ss/slideshow-wound-care-dos-and-donts

[Jamastiene]

22. Hydrogen Peroxide does a great job of getting iron bacteria stains out of

the white plastic sinks at my place. We have crap water in my hometown. It stains the sinks and tubs and toilets an orangish brown. I found out it is because of the old 1920s cast iron pipes the city of Rockingham is STILL using in my neighborhood. The water smells like rotten eggs. I basically pay for water every month so I can flush the commode. I have to buy water to drink that doesn't stink. Hydrogen Peroxide has been the ONLY thing that has helped with those horrid orange stains in the toilets. I still have to Clorox them to actually kill germs, but at least the Peroxide gets rid of the stains first.

[Demonaut]

29. can you afford a reverse osmosis system?

[Jamastiene]

32. No, even a simple at the faucet level filter system filled so fast with small bits of iron that

I had to clean it out several times a day and I was going through filters too fast to be able to afford even them. I ended up taking the aerators off the faucets and buying gallons of drinking water for cooking. I only use the water now to flush the commode and shower. I have to empty the extra small water heater I have (I have been through 2 of those this year, because the iron filaments kept attaching to the anodes in them and corroding them and collecting the bacteria there) and wait for the water to warm back up to hurry up and take a shower before more of the rotten egg smelling bacteria builds back up.

It has been a nightmare. The only thing that lessens it is when I call the city (my aunt used to do that, but she died last year) to remind them to come clear out my line and clean the fire hydrant that sits and stagnates also at the end of the line with my water. All over the city, those of us on the ends of the lines and out here in my neighborhood especially with the old lines have argued with the city for years about it at this point. So, I got a triple whammy going on with the fire hydrant and being on the end of the line and the corroding pipes.

There are other problems as well. I have to bail water to look at my meter, because it is leaking so bad. I asked the city about it once and they said it was leaking on their side of the meter so I wouldn't have to pay for it. It's also letting mud into my system too. With all these hog farms around here, that cannot be a good thing. For those on well water here, their water tastes better and smells better, but 18 out of 21 wells tested positive for hog manure lagoon runoff. So, it's either the rotten egg smelling orangish brown water that is supposedly "safe" or the decent smelling and tasting (before I found out about the hog manure) water that is polluted with hog manure lagoon runoff. Every once in a while, those of us on city water get a huge dose of chlorine that turns the water green, and it smells like pure Clorox and burns if you get it in your eyes. They have been cited by the EPA for overdoing it with the chlorine for decades now. The rest of the time, it's the iron bacteria out here in my neighborhood with the occasional chlorine overload. I rush to get stuff done when they add the chlorine, because at least my clothes can smell nicer then. I think we are going to be the next Flint, honestly, but it is a rural area, so it will never make the news and mosto f us are in poverty here. So, it will most likely never get fixed either.

[safeinOhio]

36. Does anyone have a water softener system?

That would sure help some. I had city water in Ohio and had to get one and it really helped.

[CurtEastPoint]

31. Coriander?

[Ilsa]

47. Corian on autocorrect? LOL. I wondered also. nt

[CurtEastPoint]

48. LOL...I had to google because I thought... kinda sounds right!

[alfie]

6. Alcohol works well and doesn't bleach your clothes if it ...

splashes on them. The Clorox wipes work well, especially on work surfaces if you are careful not to let them tough your clothes. CDC has a lot of information on their site. It is my go to site. I am a retired RN and did infection control for 5 years. I learned then to check with CDC on any questions I had.

[appalachiablue]

8. This is helpful, I use quite a few Clorox wipes and some Lysol,

and need to resupply the alcohol. The CDC site is good, thanks for the reminder.

[True Blue American]

9. Some are saying

Soap and water instead of wipes. Your opinion on that?

[alfie]

12. Soap and water work well, too.

It just needs to be applied long enough to be effective. Wash hands for at least 20 seconds and remember to wash all parts of the hand and fingers, not just the palms. Let dishes soak a little while before wiping and rinsing, same with work tops. I wet mine good with a soapy cloth, pause a bit and then go back with a wet cloth to wipe the soapy water off. With alcohol and bleach, let the surfaces air dry.

[mitch96]

30. I just watched a CDC vid on hand washing.

They said the water and mechanical friction loosens the germs and bacteria and the soap washes them away. Pretty dramatic They coverd their hands with a substance that showed up on a black lite. Had before and after pics. A good 30 second scrub and water rinse got it all. This was the same technique that I learned working in hospitals.
No mind you that the UV stuff was not a virus so it was not exactly apples to apples comparison.
YMMV
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[sir pball]

62. Clorox wipes are not bleach and won't damage your clothes.

They use "quat", quaternary ammonium compounds, as the disinfectant. Doesn't harm surfaces or fabrics. Probably not something you want to be bathing in, but far less harsh and destructive than bleach.

[Meowmee]

13. It depends what you are trying to kill

For c diff, a certain concentration of bleach is the only thing that works, you can purchase disinfecting bleach wipes and bleach. For most viruses and bacteria, the otc or the hospital disinfecting wipes without bleach are good. You have to keep the surface wet for the recommended amount of time for it to work and it has to be clean. Veterinary clinics are using accelerated hydrogen peroxide to kill many viruses and bacteria, you can purchase it in a concentrate or wipes. For your hands, alcohol free sanitizers containing benzelkonium chloride kill most viruses and bacteria, not only do they not dry your skin, they also keep acting for several hours if you don’t wash your hands- Same ingredient as bactine. Durisan makes a foaming bc one. Bc kills rabies. Steam at a high enough temp quickly kills just about everything in seconds and is great for floors and other surfaces. There are bc wipes as well. There is a list of what bacteria and viruses are killed by each product. Supposedly, bleach does not work on giardia but ammonia does.

When using the bleach or non bleach wipes etc., not bc I think though, wear protective gloves, then remove gloves according to non contamination protocol and throw a way- watch a video. Then wash hands also after removing gloves, dry with a paper towel and throw it away. That is the protocol for c diff in hospitals, gloves and then wash hands as well after removing them.

* if you use disinfecting bleach you need the thick dish washing or chemical protection non disposable gloves to protect your hands and then you wash and disinfect the gloves after.

The doc protocol I described for c diff is with disposable gloves when examining a patient etc. but to kill it on a surface you need the other gloves.

[appalachiablue]

14. Some of these products are new to me, thanks for the info.

[Meowmee]

15. You're welcome 😊

One of my cats had c diff and maybe a parasite so I had him quarantined for a long time, and I had to keep everything sterile and have now gotten into the habit of mostly doing all of this.

[sl8]

16. This is helpful. Thanks.

Especially the reference to accelerated hydrogen peroxide. That's brand new to me, but sounds promising.

[Meowmee]

19. You're welcome😊

I read an article that said it does kill c diff as well, but the disinfecting bleach is better.

[SammyWinstonJack]

35. Don't know how much that Durisan bc on Amazon was before but its

pretty expensive now.

[Meowmee]

61. Yep it is not cheap

But I just ordered a gallon of bac d veterinary wound cleanser at Amazon, which is the same thing, and a touchless foaming dispenser. I was planning to do this anyway because I am high risk for illnesses so it is worth the expense and alcohol irritates me and dries my skin too much. Also I made a mistake about bc, it actually does work through 7 hand washes after it is applied which is great. Alcohol stops working as soon as it dries.

So since I and my elderly father are high risk for this my family will be following this protocol: wash hands and apply bac before going out. When coming home remove shoes and wash hands and apply bac d to hands. I also am cleaning floors, countertops etc every night and sanitizing all handles, light switches, and tv remotes bathrooms etc. I think the bac d is going to help a lot because it lasts through several hand washes. I bought some smaller durisan foaming containers 3 weeks ago to use while out and at work as well. Don’t forget to clean your phones and tablets as well. There are bc wipes as well,I usually use alcohol wipes but I will add bac d foam now too.

* I noticed some of the alcohol free and even alcohol sanitizers I was looking at before, I had some in my saved section, jumped hugely in price, so be careful and avoid people trying to do that due to the fear.

[apcalc]

17. I have always heard two best ( and cheap) products work for general cleaning:

Ammonia and white vinegar.

Best disinfectants? Alcohol and bleach.

Not expensive either.

I suppose wipes are most convenient, tho.

[marybourg]

23. Just make sure you never mix

an acid like bleach or vinegar with a base like ammonia! The chemical reaction that may ensue might be worse than the virus!

[apcalc]

27. I remember kid chemistry...

Baking soda and vinegar ! Fun!

[True Blue American]

38. Kaboom!

Use that for sweet smelling drains.

[Girard442]

18. Viruses are actually pretty fragile.

Just about anything kills them. Probably more important than choice of chemical is promptness, frequency, coverage, and consistent usage.

Me, I’d have all three on hand. Also soap. Maybe even some vodka for sterilizing edibles.

[Jamastiene]

20. Bleach kills most everything, including all those 90 something diseases my mother used to tell me

about when I was changing the litter box. Apparently, litter boxes have 90-something diseases. I got so tired of hearing her gripe and complain while I cleaned the litter box.

Off the top of my head, I would guess bleach is the right answer. I will go look it up now, because I know rubbing alcohol is BS but I'm not so sure about Lysol compared to bleach.

[DemoTex]

24. Dentist used a chlorine bleach disinfectant during my root canal last week.

In my mouth, between the deep drilling probes into the nerves. It tasted absolutely horrible.

[Jamastiene]

34. Campers and backpackers use very diluted chlorine tablets to purify water.

A small amount, very diluted, isn't so bad, but when they overdo it, wow, it burns and tastes bad.

[Mendocino]

41. A Steripen can also be used.

A small battery powered device using UV light. It's use is limited to disinfecting water in a container.

[Jamastiene]

56. They also have life straws nowadays.

You can literally stick it in a pond and drink through it and it purifies the water that way. They also have a bladder type bag with a life straw attached to it that you can use too. They must work. People have been using them for a while now and I haven't heard of anyone getting sick from the water.

It's amazing how many things there are for it nowadays, isn't it?

[Mendocino]

57. I use a Sawyer Squeeze

for relativlely clean primary sources. It isn't effective for viruses so I also add Potable Aqua for sketchy situations. The Sawyer has a silver impregnated core.

I remember Les Stroud (Survivorman) using a life straw for water from a very shallow puddle full of turtle and bird poop. UGH!

[Hortensis]

45. I bet. Only 1/4 tsp per gallon or so needed, and

we could taste it, but not bad.

[no_hypocrisy]

26. And whatever you do, DON'T MIX AMONIA AND BLEACH TOGETHER

Toxic fumes

[apcalc]

28. Good tip!

[Jamastiene]

33. I was getting ready to ask what is the ratio of ammonia to bleach again.

It is an old running joke over in the DU Lounge.

[True Blue American]

37. You just found out

Why I hate bleach!

When I was young and not too smart I did just that! Never again!

I even use the HP in my white laundry.

[wishstar]

40. I've got about a gallon of corn liquor which should do the trick

Strong smelling, but so are those other sanitizers.

A family friend in NC gave us a couple bottles he had made as he was moving into assisted living and he made the best quality. Spouse and I seldom drink alcohol anymore due to my Afib and spouse's gout. But I may try pouring some around sinks if our bleach runs out!

[Mendocino]

43. Be careful with chemicals

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[Hortensis]

46. Seriously! I'm guessing most no longer know the usual

dangerous mixtures of "household" chemicals to avoid.

Those bringing in bottles of ammonia, etc., should probably write warnings on them and store them separate from things they react badly with to minimize chance of unthinking mistakes.

[Dem_4_Life]

44. From a group I am in someone recommended Cavicide it is a hospital grade disinfectant

CaviCide is a convenient, ready-to-use, intermediate-level surface disinfectant that is effective against TB, HBV, HCV, viruses (hydrophilic and lipophilic), bacteria (including MRSA and VRE) and fungi. It can be used in the NICU, operating rooms, isolation rooms, patient care areas and laboratories. When used as directed, it will also effectively clean and decontaminate critical and semi-critical instrumentation.

CaviCide is safe for use on non-porous surfaces. It is ideal for cleaning and decontamination of environmental and medical device surfaces.

https://www.metrex.com/en-us/products/surface-disinfectants/cavicide

https://www.amazon.com/Cavicide-13-1024-Surface-Disinfectant-Germicidal/dp/B00PKKFEZ6

[OregonBlue]

49. I have 2 grandsons in high school who live

with me and I run everything through the dishwasher, including kitchen sponges and dobie pads, etc. I use the sanitize setting. I'm wondering if it really is hot enough to kill all the viruses. We almost never get colds but I'm guessing that's just been luck..

Anyone know?

[getagrip_already]

51. sponges aren't worth washing......

It only kills some of the germs, and allows the bad ones it doesn't kill to flourish without any competition.

Never tried soaking them in anything. I just throw them away. Germ factories.

[OregonBlue]

55. I used to but when I run them through the dishwasher

they seem to come out clean and fresh. The sanitize steams everything. That's why I wondered if it is high enough heat to kill the virus.

[Poiuyt]

50. FWIW, bleach doesn't work well on porous surfaces like wood

Hydrogen peroxide or vinegar work much better there.

[Roland99]

52. What about WITCH HAZEL?

[The Genealogist]

53. We used an alcohol based wipe for cleaning when I worked in a PCP office

I am not sure what else was in them. Whatever you use, be sure to wear gloves.

[Nature Man]

58. FIRE

best disinfectant ever.

[jmg257]

59. I went with Clorox wipes, but the Lysol seems just as good....

https://www.clorox.com/how-to/disinfecting-sanitizing/cold-flu-other-diseases/help-prevent-the-spread-of-the-human-novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov/

Can Clorox® Products Help Prevent SARS-CoV-2?

The products listed below have demonstrated effectiveness against viruses similar to SARS-CoV-2 (formerly 2019-nCoV) on hard, nonporous surfaces. Therefore, per the EPA Emerging Pathogen Policy, these products can be used against SARS-CoV-2 when used as directed.

For more information, refer to the CDC website at
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/.

Clorox® Products you can use

Clorox® Disinfecting Wipes

https://www.lysol.com/healthy-home/understanding-coronavirus/

Specific Lysol products have demonstrated effectiveness against viruses similar to 2019 Novel Coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) on hard, non-porous surfaces. In accordance with the EPA Viral Emerging Pathogen Policy, the following Lysol products can be used against 2019 Novel Coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) when used in accordance with the directions for use.

[appalachiablue]

60. Thanks for the info. I have used both, but Not mixed together

[skip fox]

63. 1 tbls or bleach per gallon of water.

This seems the best. cheapest solution. Anyone hear differently?