After all this shit, Trump still polls over 40%

[edhopper]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

I am convinced more than ever the deplorables will never abandon him. What we must do is fight for the 10% of undecided voters to vote against him.

[Crunchy Frog]

1. Give it time. People aren't really feeling it yet.

[RKP5637]

3. Yep!!! Many people are slow learners. They never feel/see/understand what

is going on until it smacks them right in the nose!

[LenaBaby61]

29. "Many people are slow learners. They never feel/see/understand what ....

is going on until it smacks them right in the nose!"

And even then, many still are too stupid and ignorant to 'get' what's happening.

A friend's sister is a tRumpe humper, and she's getting mauled on her income taxes: The high-living sister owes more than $5,900.00, because from this year forward, she found out from her accountant that she can no longer declare the deductions that she used to declare under Pres. Obama, and do you know she had the nerve to blame Pres. Obama for tReasous fat asses "For the very rich only" tax code

Her sister, my friend, said she asked her for a loan of $5,000, and my friend told her NO. Just flat out NO. Sis is beyond pissed to the point of not having spoken to her in over 1 month. I'm SO proud of my buddy for setting boundaries against her high-living, tRumputin-lovin' sister, because my friend/her husband have their OWN set of bills and lives to live. I told the friend "Hell, tell your sister to borrow the $5,000 she asked you for from tReasonous tRump."

We cackled, then cackled some more 🤭

[RKP5637]

37. It's stunning. They have endless rationalizations for everything

and generally blame the wrong people.

[Cosmocat]

31. The more wrong these people are

The more convinced of how right they are in their minds.

Its literally a cult, they will drink the koolaid after they shoot their pets and making sure their children and wives do it first.

[Iliyah]

2. His cult watches and listens to fake news . . .

it's propaganda 101. Plus they have been conditioned to never believe nor trust no one without a
R" by their name.

[Crunchy Frog]

6. When they're in the hospital struggling to breathe

And looking at thousands in medical bills that they can't pay, all the propaganda in the world won't make that go away.

[edhopper]

11. They will blame Obama

because FauxNews will tell them it is because of Obamacare.

[Cosmocat]

32. Dude ...

If 45 or Rush (or any if their conservative profiteers) told them they had to run cheese graters over their genitalia and throw their children into volcanoes, they would do it while demanding that we follow suit.

[lapfog_1]

4. yes, especially in the swing states.

In the greatest blunder of our democracy, the founders instituted this thing called the electoral college. They never imagined a nation of such disparate states... We could win California by millions of votes (and likely will) and win the popular vote by large margins, and still end up with Trump in the White House.

[edhopper]

13. I believe we will need at least

5 million more votes this time to win.

[bluestarone]

33. Not sure if that's enough really!

I worry about the Electoral voters! Who are they and can they be bought? THAT'S my fear! Barr and Turtleface and tRUMP with the help of the senate RETHUGS will cause lots of trouble!!

[edhopper]

35. concern of mine

as well

[TwilightZone]

5. Most people made up their minds about Trump years ago.

Nearly everyone had an opinion about Trump by the time he won the presidency, if not decades before. If they accepted him after everything that was exposed in the past couple decades plus the primary cycle, then pretty much nothing he could do is going to sway them. It's a primary reason why his approval ratings have been the more consistent in history.

He was exactly right when he said he could shoot someone and not lose support. He knows his audience.

That being said, the extent of the coronavirus impact could be the one thing that could cut through the noise, because it's relatable and tangible, especially when people start dying in larger numbers in the US. Plus, while he would certainly try, in the era of social media and 24/7 news coverage, he won't be able to hide it.

[NRaleighLiberal]

7. it is a cult. #s won't move until deprogramming occurs

[NoMoreRepugs]

8. If Independent voters make up 30% of the voting population seems like there might be

quite a few votes in play. Coronavirus, health care and scandals may be powerful influencers.

[edhopper]

14. The polls show about

50% of voters say they will not vote for Trump, so a lot of those registered as independents will not vote for him. The undecideds are closer to 10%

[NoMoreRepugs]

25. Not voting for tRump is great, voting Democratic even better.

[Whiskeytide]

9. He will always have 35-40%. The deplorables ...

... will always be deplorable.

The encouraging polls, however, show his unfavorable rating at very high levels. I hope this increases as we Lock in a candidate and near November. Make no mistake, this election will Be about voting AGAINST Тяцмр.

If our base doesn’t put aside Primary wounds and vote against Тяцмр in 2020, democracy is never going to survive. It’s that simple.

[CrispyQ]

10. That his polling numbers have held steady at 40% is disturbing.

People think it can't happen here because the cult are the minority.

Fintan O’Toole: Trial runs for fascism are in full flow
Babies in cages were no ‘mistake’ by Trump but test-marketing for barbarism

Tue, Jun 26, 2018, 05:00
by Fintan O’Toole

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-trial-runs-for-fascism-are-in-full-flow-1.3543375

Fascism doesn’t arise suddenly in an existing democracy. It is not easy to get people to give up their ideas of freedom and civility. You have to do trial runs that, if they are done well, serve two purposes. They get people used to something they may initially recoil from; and they allow you to refine and calibrate. This is what is happening now and we would be fools not to see it.

One of the basic tools of fascism is the rigging of elections – we’ve seen that trialled in the election of Trump, in the Brexit referendum and (less successfully) in the French presidential elections. Another is the generation of tribal identities, the division of society into mutually exclusive polarities. Fascism does not need a majority – it typically comes to power with about 40 per cent support and then uses control and intimidation to consolidate that power. So it doesn’t matter if most people hate you, as long as your 40 per cent is fanatically committed. That’s been tested out too. And fascism of course needs a propaganda machine so effective that it creates for its followers a universe of “alternative facts” impervious to unwanted realities. Again, the testing for this is very far advanced.

Once the market settles down he'll be feeling his oats again. The GOP too. I hear they're already back on point with Biden/Hunter Biden accusations.

[Baitball Blogger]

12. I think the polls are being manipulated.

[2naSalit]

19. +1

[Cosmocat]

34. Nope

I look around me and VERY clearly see at least the 40%.

[Johonny]

15. First quarter job loses when the recession hits. Wait until then.

The parts for products not made in China in the first quarter won't hit US factories until 2nd quarter. By May or June companies will be cutting back because supply lines are being lost. The economic outlook did not look good. Add a horrible virus response and I don't see much upside for him.

[edhopper]

21. Fake News

DeepState Government lies, blah, blah blah, they don't care.

[marlakay]

16. I don't know what Fox is saying but

My daughter who works with republicans and doesn’t pay attention to politics or news told me don’t worry mom its just the flu and only a few people have it here.

I told her its not the flu and why its worse is because there are no drugs or vaccine for it and that its viral not bacterial pneumonia.

[edhopper]

22. Seen the same reaction on Facebook from conservatives

[Jakes Progress]

17. America seems to have a big basket.

[edhopper]

23. 40%

give or take

[Jakes Progress]

38. That's a big basket.

[edhopper]

41. depressingly so

[tavernier]

18. They don't know about any shit.

They only watch fix news where the fix is in.

[matt819]

20. These sorts of polls are pointless

The RWers being polled are not thinking anymore. Their support is ingrained, visceral. Their hatred of "the other" prevails. It doesn't matter what questions they are being asked. They are not listening. Not only are they not listening or not thinking, they're answers on a scale of 1-5 are probably always at the high end. Trump is the best - at everything. And, away from the polls, when they are told that he's wrong, that can't be because everyone else is a liar, everything rational people say is a hoax.

Put aside the old say, trump could shoot someone on fifth avenue and get away with it. Sure. But think about what he could do with one call for action. If he loses the election, for example. We all sort of joke about what if he refuses to leave the WH. No jokes, but what if he puts out a call to action, a call to take up arms.

Again, all joking aside. These people are no longer listening to anyone else. They are no longer thinking. Jim Jones got hundreds of people to kill themselves and their children. Is it all that crazy to consider that trump and his sycophants could get thousands to kill "the other"?

I know, I know, it's easy to predict crazy shit. But somehow, as we approach the election, I can't help but think it may not be so crazy.

[duforsure]

24. I don't believe its true

Many of them I don't believe and Cohen said trumps been trying to manipulate them in his favor, or something he is used to doing , bribing them.

[2naSalit]

26. I'm convinced

they have been skewed by dirty $$. Cohen warned us before he went to prison.

[lame54]

27. tap the unregistered - it's a bigger pool

[leftstreet]

39. Politicians seem to fear them

I swear both parties will fight it out over the last 11 regular voters on the planet, rather than draw in new people

[NoMoreRepugs]

28. Economy and Coronavirus are going to begin to squeeze

that 40% shortly. When the goobers n gomers see prices up at Walmart poop will be striking the fan.

[walkingman]

30. White evangelicals view him the same as they do Franklin Graham and Jerry Falwell. He is their God.

[Doreen]

36. It is two factors with his followers.

1. Some really are stupid and uneducated

2. Some have been given clear permission to practice their hate in the open.

There are more stupid, uneducated, and hateful people than we thought.

Yes, I do realize that has always been a factor but the ones who were laying low are now out in full force.

That is your above 40%.

[Polybius]

40. Then there's factor number 3

3. Intelligent right-wingers that back Trump.

I'd put people like Ted Cruz (Harvard educated, A+++ grades) in this. He doesn't really like Trump, in fact he probably can't stand him personally. But he supports him simply because Trump has been conservative.