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DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 03:38 AM Mar 2020

We Need 330 Million Tests In 10 Days Or Else

We can spend a trillion a year on the military, why can't we get a frigging test and quarantine the sick people in a doable way?

What is more dangerous. Saddam (types), or the virus spreading like wildfire with a 4%(ish) death rate?

And why is a stupid 3 year old in charge of everything?

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We Need 330 Million Tests In 10 Days Or Else (Original Post) DanieRains Mar 2020 OP
K&R, China reported CV19 genetic sequence on Jan 12!! We still don't have WHO's mass test kits !! uponit7771 Mar 2020 #1
Deleted pat_k Mar 2020 #2
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2020 #3
Deleted post pat_k Mar 2020 #4
We'll get tests... liberalmuse Mar 2020 #5
When are people going to see what Trump is doing? gab13by13 Mar 2020 #6
You are exactly right. LiberalLoner Mar 2020 #7
"We Need 330 Million Tests In 10 Days Or Else"...or else what? AncientGeezer Mar 2020 #8
Exponential growth. Every day counts Drahthaardogs Mar 2020 #9
Do you remember H1N1 in '09? There were 1000 dead ppl before Pres. Obama released $1 Bil AncientGeezer Mar 2020 #10
Buddy, I am a toxicologist and I am scared shitless Drahthaardogs Mar 2020 #11
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #12
I guess we will see Drahthaardogs Mar 2020 #13
Did you read your link?..Seriously..did you read it. If you did do you understand it? AncientGeezer Mar 2020 #14
And yet, Italy's numbers are even worse Drahthaardogs Mar 2020 #16
Italy...do you not know they get tourists flooding them every day this time of the yr? AncientGeezer Mar 2020 #17
WTF are you talking about? This is NOT tourist season. Drahthaardogs Mar 2020 #18
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #20
But, but, but A Person DID die Drahthaardogs Mar 2020 #22
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #24
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #25
This is a serious thing. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #21
The guy lives in the gungeon Drahthaardogs Mar 2020 #23
And also...I have spent a lot of time in Italy Drahthaardogs Mar 2020 #15
Hear hear! That's a fact. defacto7 Mar 2020 #28
this is now larwdem Mar 2020 #31
Problem is, once people are tested... RealityChik Mar 2020 #19
I know. Newest Reality Mar 2020 #26
We have 75000 available now, are you saying that isn't enough doc03 Mar 2020 #27
If we're frugal maybe we could split each test into defacto7 Mar 2020 #32
Maybe this is what happens when you want to drown the government in a fucking bathtub Flaleftist Mar 2020 #29
And we don't even get... Newest Reality Mar 2020 #30
Every single person in this country needs to be tested in the next 10 days? PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2020 #33

uponit7771

(90,371 posts)
1. K&R, China reported CV19 genetic sequence on Jan 12!! We still don't have WHO's mass test kits !!
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 03:52 AM
Mar 2020

This looks beyond disgusting, when we look back at this it looks like this is a scandal in and of itself.

3500 people are jailed on a boat getting sick with confirmed cases cause dumb ass decided to fire the pandemic response team !!

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
4. Deleted post
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 04:48 AM
Mar 2020

I deleted the post. Discovered information about CDC test being based on Randox tech was erroneous.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
5. We'll get tests...
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 06:18 AM
Mar 2020

When Trump figures out which part of America he needs to sell off in order to get Ivanka an exclusive patent for them.

gab13by13

(21,508 posts)
6. When are people going to see what Trump is doing?
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 07:07 AM
Mar 2020

He doesn't want to fucking test people it would raise the number of cases. He wants people to get the virus without any fanfare. Most will recover and some will die. The ones who recover will not be counted, the ones who die will not be counted as dying from coronavirus.
Trump can then go on to claim that the coronavirus was a big scare propagated by Democrats and the MSM to hurt his reelection.

Trump better hope that policy doesn't create a monster epidemic in the US.

LiberalLoner

(9,762 posts)
7. You are exactly right.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 08:01 AM
Mar 2020
hopefully the states and local authorities can work around Trump and get the tests done. Unless Trump goes further and outlaws all testing.
 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
8. "We Need 330 Million Tests In 10 Days Or Else"...or else what?
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 07:37 PM
Mar 2020

Why? What if we get to 11 days....what happens?

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
10. Do you remember H1N1 in '09? There were 1000 dead ppl before Pres. Obama released $1 Bil
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 09:10 PM
Mar 2020

The OP said we need 300 MILLION test kits in 10 days....utter BS.
You haven't said why...the OP hasn't said why.....

WHY?

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
11. Buddy, I am a toxicologist and I am scared shitless
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 09:18 PM
Mar 2020

The only chance we have is massive testing and lockdown. This is NOT the influenza virus. It is 2 to 4 times more contagious. Italy is seeing 10% of infections require hospitalization with 3% fatal infections.

If you ate truly "ancient" I suggest you take this seriously as the mortality rate in those over 70 is exceeding 15%

Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #11)

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
14. Did you read your link?..Seriously..did you read it. If you did do you understand it?
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 10:10 PM
Mar 2020

We have absolutely no way of knowing the "infection" rate....you link says as much.
Chinese CCDC......really...again as a self proclaimed toxicologist....you rely on Chinese reporting? A Hotel fell on confined Covid people in China....if 10 died there... is it Covid deaths...or China # manipulation....you know.

Not my 1st rodeo...I remember well H1N1 in '09....

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
17. Italy...do you not know they get tourists flooding them every day this time of the yr?
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 10:32 PM
Mar 2020

What do think will happen? Especially this time of the yr?
It's the Mediterranean....in February and March....no shit there are sick people.

Washington State has deaths in a Nursing home.....people at very high risk....if my Mom were alive I wouldn't let he go to a "Home".......

There is a Cruise Ship off California parked....3400 ppl....about 22 cases of Covid....so far no dead....explain it.

Again....you claim to be a toxicologist...you aren't an epidemiologist, not a Doctor,(I have 2 in my family).....
Wow....

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
18. WTF are you talking about? This is NOT tourist season.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 10:40 PM
Mar 2020

That wont start until mid-May. Plus this is in PIEDMONT not Rome, hai capito? I know the atea well. We are from Canavesse.

I dont need insults from a newbie who lives in the gungeon and parrots Trump talking points.

I am a professional researcher. Your knowledge of stats barely exceeds your knowledge of Italy.

And on edit:

Only 43 people on thst ship have been tested to date, mostly because Trump wont allow it. But...of the 43 tested, 21 have it. One HAS died. That is right at 5%

Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #18)

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
22. But, but, but A Person DID die
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 11:05 PM
Mar 2020

Why are you so angry?

Do I hear the pitter-patter of goats on your bridge?

WTF do you think a toxicologist does?

I spent years cutting genes out of one plant via restriction enzymes and inserting them into others using plasmid vectors. Then I got deeper into AG and insecticides, especially secondary plant metabolites.

You are so misinformed you equate it with a guy running blood panels for DUI.

Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #22)

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Turin_C3PO

(14,149 posts)
21. This is a serious thing.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 11:02 PM
Mar 2020

Don’t try and downplay it like Trump and his Republican asskissers are doing. Very credible voices have suggested up to 40% of the population may be infected before this is all said and done. That leaves the potential for a few million dead. There’s a reason experts are so concerned about this. Listen to them and avoid Republican propaganda.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
15. And also...I have spent a lot of time in Italy
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 10:11 PM
Mar 2020

They eat better, live longer, are happier, and healthier than Americans. We are fatter, more stressed, sicker, and have poorer acess to health care.

And their response has been far better than ours.

RealityChik

(382 posts)
19. Problem is, once people are tested...
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 10:58 PM
Mar 2020

Where are all the people who test positive going to go for quarantine if they are not able to self-quarantine at home? Because my husband is in the highest at risk demographic, I would not be able to self-quarantine at home if I somehow tested positive for the virus. I would have to be quarantined somewhere else for the 2 weeks of incubation to prevent exposure at home. Therein lies the logjam to this whole pandemic, and yes, folks, quietly the medical experts are now calling it what it is...a pandemic.

Anybody have some room for 2-3 million tiny houses where people can go for 14 days during the incubation period? How about put them all in Trump hotels and let him foot the bill. I'm cool with that!

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
26. I know.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 11:29 PM
Mar 2020

That tells you something alarming about priorities and propaganda. Terrorism was the rage as if our lives all depended on fighting it.

Now? Meh. Not such a big deal, is it? Was there a magic wave of transformations I missed.

Now, when it does come down to something real, tangible, threatening, deadly and in our faces with impending results. Meh? Something is seriously proving to be wrong here.

doc03

(35,453 posts)
27. We have 75000 available now, are you saying that isn't enough
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 12:00 AM
Mar 2020

for 330,000,000? Trump said anyone that needs one can get one?

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
32. If we're frugal maybe we could split each test into
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:06 AM
Mar 2020

4,400 tiny tests. Stated more for the absurdity than the humor.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,929 posts)
33. Every single person in this country needs to be tested in the next 10 days?
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:06 AM
Mar 2020

How many millions of labs are available to run the tests?

Not to mention, do you honestly think that most people will really cooperate with this? I worked the census ten years ago, and the people who refused to fill out the census form, screaming THIS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!! was almost amusing. And corona virus testing isn't quite the census. It's far more intrusive.

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