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We can spend a trillion a year on the military, why can't we get a frigging test and quarantine the sick people in a doable way?
What is more dangerous. Saddam (types), or the virus spreading like wildfire with a 4%(ish) death rate?
And why is a stupid 3 year old in charge of everything?
uponit7771
(90,371 posts)This looks beyond disgusting, when we look back at this it looks like this is a scandal in and of itself.
3500 people are jailed on a boat getting sick with confirmed cases cause dumb ass decided to fire the pandemic response team !!
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pat_k
(9,313 posts)I deleted the post. Discovered information about CDC test being based on Randox tech was erroneous.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)When Trump figures out which part of America he needs to sell off in order to get Ivanka an exclusive patent for them.
gab13by13
(21,508 posts)He doesn't want to fucking test people it would raise the number of cases. He wants people to get the virus without any fanfare. Most will recover and some will die. The ones who recover will not be counted, the ones who die will not be counted as dying from coronavirus.
Trump can then go on to claim that the coronavirus was a big scare propagated by Democrats and the MSM to hurt his reelection.
Trump better hope that policy doesn't create a monster epidemic in the US.
LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)Why? What if we get to 11 days....what happens?
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Eventually you hit the point of no return.
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)The OP said we need 300 MILLION test kits in 10 days....utter BS.
You haven't said why...the OP hasn't said why.....
WHY?
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)The only chance we have is massive testing and lockdown. This is NOT the influenza virus. It is 2 to 4 times more contagious. Italy is seeing 10% of infections require hospitalization with 3% fatal infections.
If you ate truly "ancient" I suggest you take this seriously as the mortality rate in those over 70 is exceeding 15%
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Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)But just for the record, the mortality rate vs. infection rate is far higher than influenza.
And here's a link for you.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)We have absolutely no way of knowing the "infection" rate....you link says as much.
Chinese CCDC......really...again as a self proclaimed toxicologist....you rely on Chinese reporting? A Hotel fell on confined Covid people in China....if 10 died there... is it Covid deaths...or China # manipulation....you know.
Not my 1st rodeo...I remember well H1N1 in '09....
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)And if we trust Trump, WA has 100 infections and 11 deaths.
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)What do think will happen? Especially this time of the yr?
It's the Mediterranean....in February and March....no shit there are sick people.
Washington State has deaths in a Nursing home.....people at very high risk....if my Mom were alive I wouldn't let he go to a "Home".......
There is a Cruise Ship off California parked....3400 ppl....about 22 cases of Covid....so far no dead....explain it.
Again....you claim to be a toxicologist...you aren't an epidemiologist, not a Doctor,(I have 2 in my family).....
Wow....
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)That wont start until mid-May. Plus this is in PIEDMONT not Rome, hai capito? I know the atea well. We are from Canavesse.
I dont need insults from a newbie who lives in the gungeon and parrots Trump talking points.
I am a professional researcher. Your knowledge of stats barely exceeds your knowledge of Italy.
And on edit:
Only 43 people on thst ship have been tested to date, mostly because Trump wont allow it. But...of the 43 tested, 21 have it. One HAS died. That is right at 5%
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Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Why are you so angry?
Do I hear the pitter-patter of goats on your bridge?
WTF do you think a toxicologist does?
I spent years cutting genes out of one plant via restriction enzymes and inserting them into others using plasmid vectors. Then I got deeper into AG and insecticides, especially secondary plant metabolites.
You are so misinformed you equate it with a guy running blood panels for DUI.
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Turin_C3PO
(14,149 posts)Dont try and downplay it like Trump and his Republican asskissers are doing. Very credible voices have suggested up to 40% of the population may be infected before this is all said and done. That leaves the potential for a few million dead. Theres a reason experts are so concerned about this. Listen to them and avoid Republican propaganda.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)And rants about socialists.
I'm starting to wonder...
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)They eat better, live longer, are happier, and healthier than Americans. We are fatter, more stressed, sicker, and have poorer acess to health care.
And their response has been far better than ours.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)larwdem
(760 posts)Trump is pres. not Obama. can you see why were fucked?
RealityChik
(382 posts)Where are all the people who test positive going to go for quarantine if they are not able to self-quarantine at home? Because my husband is in the highest at risk demographic, I would not be able to self-quarantine at home if I somehow tested positive for the virus. I would have to be quarantined somewhere else for the 2 weeks of incubation to prevent exposure at home. Therein lies the logjam to this whole pandemic, and yes, folks, quietly the medical experts are now calling it what it is...a pandemic.
Anybody have some room for 2-3 million tiny houses where people can go for 14 days during the incubation period? How about put them all in Trump hotels and let him foot the bill. I'm cool with that!
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)That tells you something alarming about priorities and propaganda. Terrorism was the rage as if our lives all depended on fighting it.
Now? Meh. Not such a big deal, is it? Was there a magic wave of transformations I missed.
Now, when it does come down to something real, tangible, threatening, deadly and in our faces with impending results. Meh? Something is seriously proving to be wrong here.
doc03
(35,453 posts)for 330,000,000? Trump said anyone that needs one can get one?
defacto7
(13,485 posts)4,400 tiny tests. Stated more for the absurdity than the humor.
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Some rubber duckies for the trouble.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,929 posts)How many millions of labs are available to run the tests?
Not to mention, do you honestly think that most people will really cooperate with this? I worked the census ten years ago, and the people who refused to fill out the census form, screaming THIS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!! was almost amusing. And corona virus testing isn't quite the census. It's far more intrusive.