*****Official Biannual Thread to Complain about Daylight Savings Time******

[Renew Deal]

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[beachbumbob]

1. it sucks, thats all I have to say

[Roland99]

2. Heh

I hate the change forward but Florida and at least one other state want to make this the permanent time. I’m fine with that. More daylight in the evening

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/07/813278637/daylight-saving-time-is-here-again-so-is-the-debate-about-changing-the-clocks

[edhopper]

3. Only thought

what corporation still makes money form this. Cause that is the only reason the Congress won't act. (of course by Congress, we mean the GOP Senate in this case)

[dawg day]

14. If I understand correctly, DST saves money and energy. Less artificial light needed in the evenings.

I lived without DST for decades (Indiana). We changed because, well, it was stupidly oppositional to be on "Indiana East" time when the rest of the world was on DST.

And no looking back. DST is great. Long evenings for barbecues and walking the dog after work. Time to enjoy the summer even on workdays.

Arizona, I think, still holds out, so that's a place for the resistors.

[edhopper]

15. But days are shorter in the winter

when the clocks move back, so more energy is needed then. Just stay on this time throughout the year.

[dawg day]

32. Only if the whole country goes on DST all year@

It's bad being on a different system than the rest of the country.

[edhopper]

34. This is what should happen

[smirkymonkey]

35. I agree.

Just stay on this time all year. I prefer more light in the evening. Not everyone is up at the crack of dawn, but almost everyone is up between 5-8pm in the evening.

[Rorey]

28. But it's March 8

MARCH!!!

I could deal with it better if we waited until April.

[Buckeyeblue]

4. I love it

More daytime in the evening to be outside after work.

[SDANation]

5. Well we voted to keep DST to all year long

In CA. But of course no change yet. I personally love the longer daylight.

[underpants]

6. 6 months ago it cost me my beloved wall clock

I changed the hour. Hung it back up. Stepped back to see if it was level/correct. It slid off the hanger, hit the mantle, and then busted up on the floor.

We’d had it for about 15 years. Haven’t been able to find a real replacement yet but we do have a fill in wall clock.

[wryter2000]

7. Hate it

I slept in and missed my exercises.
I think CA isn’t switching back this year. I’ll never get that hour back.

[thinkingagain]

8. I hate time change!!

It sucks!!!
I hate it !
I hate!
I hate it!!
Did I mention I hate time change!
Grrrr

[lame54]

54. which side would settle on?

[thinkingagain]

62. I think I would go with standard

as I think most the world goes by it could just be me thinking that.
But at this point either just pick one and be done. I kinda go with there is only so much daylight no matter what the clock says. So you are either turning lights on in the morning or lights on at night.
Thanks for asking

[lame54]

63. I like the longer summer nights...

If that is taken away I'll be pissed am willing to change my clocks twice a year to get it

[dewsgirl]

9. I love the fall time change, hate this one.😔

[lame54]

55. this one gives us late summer nights...

if that is taken away - that would suck

people complain twice a year but never say which side they are willing to make permanent

[Arkansas Granny]

10. It messes with my internal clock for about 2 weeks. I enjoy having more daylight

hours after work.

[OrlandoDem2]

11. With coronavirus out there and daylight savings, I'm staying in bed until next Sunday at least!

[live love laugh]

12. 🤣🤣

[dawg day]

13. I love it-- live in a state that did not have it until a decade ago-

I was all "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." The problem was, we were on NY time half the year, and Chicago time the other half.
Then we got it. And wow. TV shows were on at the same time all year! And I never miss a plane because of a time mixup!
And the long summer evenings-- my goodness, those are lovely.

Take it from someone who has experienced no DST... DST is great.

Plus, you know, Marco Rubio was just tweeting his annual "evil government took over my clock" rant. You'd think that is the only problem Floridians face this week.

So I am glad NOT to be siding with Marco Rubio.

[Ms. Toad]

23. What you are describing is not the lack of DST -

But the impact of going from being out of sync with your time zone to being in sync wtih the rest of the people in your time zone.

If DST were to vanish entirely, it would create the exact same "in sync" experience.

[dawg day]

33. But the evenings would be darker.

I love the long summer evenings.

[Ms. Toad]

37. That is an entirely different issue that what you were talking about. n/t

[dawg day]

44. I said in my paean to DST that I loved long evenings

Just another reason I'm glad my state finally changed.
This is funny... when my state spent decades debating this, the passion was just this high. It's interesting what gets people posting.

[Ms. Toad]

45. Having an hour of my sleep stolen is worth a post.

That is real.

My loss of sleep is real. On the day the clock shifts an hour ahead it actually subtracts an hour from my sleep.

The 6% more people who are dead the week following the time shift are real.

New research finds that fatal car crashes increase by 6 percent the week following daylight saving time (DST). The annual time switch increases sleep deprivation, resulting in jet lag-like symptoms that leave people feeling drowsy behind the wheel of a car

https://www.google.com/search?q=increased+accidents+the+day+after+DST+shift&rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS751US751&oq=increased+accidents+the+day+after+DST+shift&aqs=chrome..69i57.9967j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Fictional longer evenings are not. Evenings are just as long regardless of the time showing on the clock. You have just as many hours to be productive (or play) between work and the time you go to sleep. Just as many hours to sleep.

(I am perfectly fine with fixing DST as the year round time, or ST as the year round time, but changing twice a year is assinine and deadly.)

[dawg day]

46. "Fictional evenings"? When do evenings start and end?

For me, they start when work ends, and they end when night comes. And 4 hours (which is what I get in July) of that lovely golden and silver light is better than three hours.

I think Fictional Evenings would be a great title for a novel, or maybe a book of poetry.

[Ms. Toad]

47. You have exactly the same amount of time from when work ends,

until you need to be in bed to get an appropriate amount of sleep before the next day. Changing the clock does not change that. Sowhat is fictional is the thinking that the hour shown on the clock when the sun sets changes that. It doesn't.

The presence of sunlight does not counter the 6% of additional real people who die the week following playing God with the clock, nor does it give me back the hour that was actually stolen when March 8, instead of having 24 hours, only has 23 (with the critical difference being that the stolen hour was during the time I need to sleep). Those are both real.

[dawg day]

49. Okay. I surrender. :)

[Ms. Toad]

52. Better not to argue with someone who has just had an hour of sleep stolen

AND - whose day starts 3 hours earlier than normal because of a day long conference. (No, wait - make that 4 hours earlier because of the change). So now I have to wake up not at o-dark-hundred, but at o-dark-hundred minus one. That cuts my sleep down to no more than 6 hours tonight. Probably less.

[MuseRider]

16. YAY! DST!

It makes everything better in the summer for those of us farming.

You don't have to get home for work and hay your pasture in the dark, then put away the animals etc. in the dark.

Harvesting in the dark is impossibly hard. If you have another job, and who doesn't who is making part of their living off of farming, you need that extra hour.

What on earth do you people do if you travel into another time zone? Freak out about the hour? Nope, it is either vacation or visiting family and that is too good to be upset about and if it is work you groan and go to sleep an hour early if you can.

[area51]

17. I would like to see either Standard time or Daylight Saving time adopted,

without flipping back and forth.

[librechik]

18. Did they finish moving the Stonehenge stones yet?

That's always the hardest part

[Ilsa]

19. I don't hate or love DST. I get messed up with the time change, though.

I bet teachers of all school grades say the same.

[hlthe2b]

20. I have no problem with DST or ST. I just want them to PICK ONE and stay with it!

[Baltimike]

21. I thought it came early this year. nt

[Ptah]

22. Arizona for the win!

[drmeow]

24. I miss living in Arizona

where I didn't have to worry about it except to figure out what the time difference was for calling anyone out of state.

[JHB]

25. Reposted from the Lounge

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10181328349

[Blues Heron]

26. Love it just the way it is

Hello summer!

IF you stayed on DST in the winter- that's just plain stupid. It wouldn't get light until 10:AM.

[Tikki]

27. Annual plea for permanent Daylight Savings Time.

My dream is to step out onto a So Cal beach with the sun still shining for a bit after 8:30 p.m. All Year Long.

Tikki

[ThoughtCriminal]

29. My only complaint

I live in Arizona, which does not switch (one of the few things we do right). But I had my new phone set to sync with my network.

Apparently, Verizon dropped the ball this morning and pushed my phone up an hour.

[Disaffected]

30. DST

all year 'round.

[hunter]

31. It needs to DIE!

Kill it with fire!

It's purpose is gone.

It used to be most people would go home from work at the same time, eat dinner, and then decide which of three or four television propaganda channels they were going to watch.

And if that wasn't enough television, one could buy TV trays and TV dinners, and eat dinner while watching television.

My dad would get home from work, we'd have dinner, and then he'd pop open a beer and watch CBS news. Other dads in the neighborhood might watch NBC or ABC news. Then the family would watch their favorite television shows.

All at the same fucking time, in lockstep, a nation of zombies!

My children can't even comprehend that world. They've rarely had nine-to five jobs. They stream ALL their television, watching it when it's convenient to them. That's the way we watch television too. We watch Netflix and DVDs. We don't watch any cable, satellite, or broadcast television. What the clock says doesn't matter.

Here in the internet age of 24/7 business and services there no reason at all to keep daylight savings time. How many people have jobs where the position of the sun in the sky matters? And do they pay any attention to the clock or do they just start work around sunrise, whether or not they live in a place that changes the clock?

Our children grew up on "hospital time." That's always been disconnected from the regular rhythms of television time. When our children were young my wife and I were able to arrange our schedules such that we never needed childcare, but it also meant we were entirely disconnected from the tyranny of television schedules. All that turning the clock ahead accomplished was to force me to deal with a bunch of cranky children when I had to get them off to school.

Myself, I'm going to be really cranky tomorrow when I have to get up at five but my internal clock is saying it's four. Maybe I'll flame some people who deserve it.

[LuvNewcastle]

60. I agree.

We should just stay on standard time. It seems like we have less and less standard time every year. It just doesn't seem right to have daylight at 8:00 p.m. anyway. I think we spend more on energy in the South because we have to keep our air conditioners cranked up full blast well into the evening. I hate to get my power bill in the summertime.

[MacKasey]

36. I HATE spring forward

I LOVE fall back

[Happy Hoosier]

38. I freakin' hate DST

It is completely pointless in the modern world.

[CTyankee]

39. I don't care. We have more important things in our lives.

Isn't Trump and the rest of the GOP a bigger issue for us to think about?

Let's devote our limited amount of time and effort to getting this country back in shape again...

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

40. Hate it

Hate changing at both ends.

If you want more daylight, wake up earlier.
I want time zones eliminated as well. Everyone should adopt UTC. I would be totally fine if sunrise today registered at 11:23AM on my clock. I'd be happy tomorrow to show up for work at 1PM UTC.

Doesn't matter it's just a number.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

41. Do you know why we have time?

So everything doesn't happen at once!

[Buns_of_Fire]

42. I managed to get the clock on the stove, the clock on the microwave,

the clock in the bedroom, the clock in the living room, and the clock in the car all more-or-less set for the same time zone this morning, so I'm good until November. Soon, I'll be able to complain about how hot it is in the apartment after spending the last four months complaining about how cold it was, so I'm a happy camper.

[MoonlitKnight]

43. More people will die from DST this week than Coronavirus

About 30 just from increased car crashes.
Many more from a substantial increase in heart attacks.
Still more due to significantly increased workplace accidents.

[tblue37]

48. We should just stay in DST all year round. nt

[Dem2]

50. My clocks are now accurate again!

I never change to "standard" time. We need to change to the next-door time zone permanently so we don't have to put up with this shit.

[True Blue American]

51. There is a petition

To stop it. Signed this morning.

Is it permissible to link it here?

[Shrek]

53. Semi-annual

Biannual means something else.

[panader0]

56. Arizona doesn't change.

The sun rises, the sun sets. No messing with the clocks change that.

[rurallib]

57. I say split it down the middle - move the clocks 1/2 hour to the middle

and then leave them the fuck alone

[Brother Buzz]

58. I'm really bummed my dumpster dive battery powered clockworks failed me

Five, six years ago, I scored a smashed clock and gave it a new life by fabricating a nice wooden face for it. It works like a charm, but it initially freaked us out when it automatically adjusted for this daylight savings thingy. For some reason, it failed to do anything this time. I initially thought it might have gotten hung up with the leap year, but it would have changed yesterday. I'm just going to watch it for another day or so to see what it does before I change it.

Does anyone know how this mystery clock works, and what didn't happen this time?

[GoneOffShore]

59. Too funny!

We don't get it here in France until 29 March!

And it ends 25 October.

And everyone complains.

It's great..... that everyone complains.

[struggle4progress]

61. I have a whole closet full of the daylight I've saved!